The Greatest Non Hits

TV on the Radio:Nine Types Of Light

Chris & Tim Season 5 Episode 7

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A record can be packed with talent and still feel messy, or it can click so hard that every sound seems inevitable. Nine Types Of Light by TV On The Radio lands in that second category for us, and the more we listen, the more the album feels like a complete world rather than a stack of tracks.

We talk through what makes it work: the tight but adventurous production, the way the arrangements leave space for horns and synth textures, and how the band slides across funk rock, soul, art rock, and even a little blues jazz without turning into a genre exercise. Along the way we touch on the human story around the lineup, including bassist Gerard Smith, and how that context can shift the emotional weight of what you’re hearing.

Then we get to the fun part of Greatest Non-Hits: we set aside the most obvious singles and build our top-three deep cut rankings. We debate what even counts as a “hit,” call out the tracks that build into glorious chaos, and make the case for the songs that feel like pure adrenaline or pure ache depending on where the album takes you. If you love album reviews, track-by-track reactions, and discovering underrated songs you should be playing on repeat, this is for you.

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Welcome And The Game Plan

SPEAKER_11

Ladies and gentlemen, all of you what you're doing!

SPEAKER_07

Alright, thank you for listening to the Greatest Non-Hits. I'm Chris, and playing the song New Cannonball Blues by TV on the radio, and their uh fourth studio album, Nine Types of Light, is my co-host Tim. Thank you so much for listening, joining us today. Um as always, you know, we're gonna listen to all the all the songs on Nine Types of Light by TV on the radio. Uh at the end, we're gonna give our our top three non-hits. And uh in the meantime, we're gonna have a bunch of fun. Um I'm just gonna talk a little bit about the album, what we feel about it. Tim's gonna join me. We're he's gonna give us his input. And then we'll list all the albums. We've got a bunch of funny sound clips. Uh so it's gonna be great. And uh before I go any further, shout out to Wells uh Wellsy. Uh he's one of my co-workers. He's the he's actually the person who turned me on to this album. And I've got to say, uh, good choice, my man. Um

Why Nine Types Of Light Works

SPEAKER_07

we love it. The more I listen to this, the more I get into this album. Um I would describe it as being greater than the sum of its parts. Uh because while I I respect all the the the talent of all of the personnel, uh the the way it was arranged, the way it was uh uh produced, uh it was so uh just all so put together. Um it's the the vocalist is Tunde Arabempe, uh vocals, loops keyboards, uh Juil Button is the drummer, uh synthesizer, vocals, uh some guitar, bass, kit Malone, vocals, guitar, bass, synthesizer, Dave Andrew Cytek. If I'm getting these names wrong, I apologize. But um anyway, he he did programming some synthesizers, guitar, bass, samples, and vocals. And then uh Gerard Smith, bass guitar, mainly uh some organ samples. Uh sad fact about uh him, he passed away uh within days of uh of recording uh when this is when this is all uh said and done. So um uh rest in peace, Gerard. And uh but nevertheless uh he he left behind you know what we consider to be a masterpiece, uh or it's it's starting to feel that way the more we listen to it. Um we just uh loved all the different uh sounds. I would say there's just so many different influences. I I just don't know really there's like funk rock. Um what else has it been referred to? Oh just uh soulful blues jazz, jazz blues, you know. Shout out to shout out to um Spinal Tap. Here they are.

SPEAKER_14

A uh festival. Jazz Blues Festival. Where was that? Blues jazz, really.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, so anyway. There is some blues jazz. I heard, you know, a little bit of um super tramp, bee gees at times, uh in in the you know, in the in the vocals, and you know, takes me like way back. And um I I really thought it was done very cleverly and sparsely. It wasn't uh um I it was just really good. And uh another cool fact of this uh album is how they made an uh a video for every single song, and I think as a comp all that combined as a compilation is a a movie of some sort. And I I haven't looked into that, and I don't think Tim has either, but we're definitely gonna look through that just to see what that's all about, because there's like a different director for each of the different songs, and there's like a backstory behind all of it, and uh we we we didn't get that deep into this whole thing, and uh like I said, this is just an album that was just not long ago, just like a a week or two ago, um mentioned by my co-worker Wellsy, shout out again. And so uh we're gonna grow with it, but uh, we've heard the album a few times. Um I guess we could probably talk about the songs that are the hits or the singles that we're going to um exclude, I guess. For me, we'll do is considered to be universally recognized as their most popular song on the album, and it's always name-checked in the top ten in all kinds of rankings. Stereo Gum, I think, has um has ranked in the top ten of their of their total catalog of the catalogue. So Will Do will be uh out of the rankings, as well as I think second song. And I think I love those, both of those songs. But uh I guess that's uh that's ranked way up there too, but and and like from top to bottom, there's a lot of critical acclaim for uh a lot of these uh songs. Uh Killer Crane, Keep Your Heart, uh Caffeinated uh Consciousness There's a lot going on here. Um and there's some deeper cuts. Forgotten, um New Cannibal Blues, which is just with Tame is playing. So um It sounds like it kind of like scales almost in a way. Like I'm liking the uh the technique. I mean he's uh He's crashing it. So anyway So yeah, that that's gonna be what we're gonna be doing and uh Yeah, wherever you get the podcast, make sure you download us. Uh you know send us Yeah, send us anything, you know. Take us up, or just you know send us uh send us a line, you know. Say hey what's up Chris and Timothy But anyway, yeah, we're gonna get the uh the funk out in a moment.

Album Art And First Impressions

SPEAKER_07

Uh also yeah, the artwork on the album cover, I think, is from uh Tundy, the uh the lead singer. And uh I think CyTech uh gives uh a little bit of uh input with it, but we we dug that as well, and and Tim is gonna elaborate a little bit. Tim, what's up, bud?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, doing well. The uh the album cover is kinda like the original windows like background that they made uh a shadowy figure with light out of a window, and it looks like a synthetic, like weird glass, right?

SPEAKER_07

And it's with a red light, and I I just it's kind of dangerous. Water and the sun and the sky all different shades of red.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, it's very, very sort of pulls you in into a like a microcosm of some kind of mathematical universe that I'm pretty dealing with.

SPEAKER_07

Anyway, I can get it.

Track Reactions And Musical Details

SPEAKER_06

Which is the first song which is confusing sometimes you think you're in the first, you think you're in the clear, but all of a sudden you're not because some fucking passcode or some subscription just uh gets gets it just wears on you, and then you're like trying to find your inner self.

SPEAKER_19

Confidence and ignorance approve me.

SPEAKER_06

Right?

SPEAKER_19

Okay.

SPEAKER_07

But here we go.

SPEAKER_19

I've tried so hard to shut it down.

SPEAKER_07

This is second song.

SPEAKER_19

Gently walk away.

SPEAKER_07

You see how they it's like the uh the accordion.

SPEAKER_19

Love that appetites and impulses confuse me.

SPEAKER_06

They found it uh Brooklyn like junk shop, I'm sure. For five dollars.

SPEAKER_19

Shaking hands move to tear my face away. And when the night comes, I'm feeling like a pyro, and I know stables my survival when there's music all around me.

SPEAKER_07

You need music for survival.

SPEAKER_19

Not a single word to say.

SPEAKER_07

I would agree with that.

SPEAKER_19

I'm not gonna give you a light. I'm gonna show you the light.

SPEAKER_17

No, I'm gonna throttle.

SPEAKER_19

May I illuminate the nameless, faceless state of these odd and open brains?

SPEAKER_07

This berry did.

SPEAKER_13

Think I'm gonna get some racks and diamonds. When I'm loaded.

SPEAKER_06

Sonic Evolution, I love that.

SPEAKER_09

Darling. Light up my light.

SPEAKER_06

Oh body mind. Body mind. Leave me behind. Oh body mind, leave me behind. I think about the body mind, M-I-N-D. Body mind. Is that a word? Like body and mind. Oh, okay. Oh body mind. He's trying to ascend from his body and mind. Clever use of word. We're good. I think Spotify is not correct.

SPEAKER_19

Forever.

SPEAKER_08

Forever. You can do anything you want. Anything you put your heart and your mind into. I believe that.

SPEAKER_06

What note is that? It's like a D. D D is the very jovial chord, I think. I think this isn't D. D D. Just D.

SPEAKER_16

I think the horns are phenomenal.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, they end this song with just the pause it real quick.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. Man, I could start the day with that song. Nice. You think?

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. I did start this day with this song.

SPEAKER_06

A little cayenne, a little coconut. Yeah, it put me in a great mood. That's good.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Alright. Cayenne, coconut, and coffee. Shout to the tea and coffee drinkers. That's right. Right. We've got some caffeinated love. We do. For you. Um. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09

Why don't you let me fix your smoke this little coconut?

SPEAKER_06

There's some sponsors.

SPEAKER_03

With joy in your heart.

SPEAKER_15

You drank all over me. Cheap.

SPEAKER_10

I love Leo.

SPEAKER_19

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

I'm gonna keep the Yo With Joy in your heart.

SPEAKER_06

Thank you. Sarah. What's his name? Who you're no idea. Baba. Ooh, a little bell. Shout out to all the serpents. Oh yeah. Shine on.

SPEAKER_02

And yes, I'm ready to think. And yes, I'm ready to think.

SPEAKER_03

Wonderful feeling. This piece is called the whole life. How my gonna keep the Oh How I gonna keep the- I never heard that. It's the world of bow. Oh man. How my gonna keep the Yo Bog.

SPEAKER_07

Yes, dude, it's so much different. I've been hearing it. Not the way to work. Take it all.

SPEAKER_06

Better speakers, maybe. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Shout out to the runners, the teeth breakers, all that. Shout out to the teeth but just hang it out.

SPEAKER_06

You could probably just get more from it if you just fully immersed it. I'd really like the acoustic guitar with this sort of stinty Yeah meanderings.

SPEAKER_07

Probably playing songs also can probably be good for your just development.

SPEAKER_06

They like to play doubles and triplets a lot. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Shadowlands.

SPEAKER_19

Still lines intertwining.

SPEAKER_06

Brooklyn. It's the band TV. Band TV radio I radio TV and easy chip.

SPEAKER_03

It's the wheel fall.

SPEAKER_07

Talking heads a little bit. Yes.

SPEAKER_06

Percussive chanting.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, the David Byrne. It's almost kind of but he does it his own way. You know, it's not, but it's I really like the drums here.

SPEAKER_06

It's like church or something.

SPEAKER_07

Oh. Domo. Domo. That's uh Phil Collins. Domo. Yeah, so Domo.

SPEAKER_06

Yes, no, you're right. Yeah. I hear that. Phil Collins coming at you, okay.

SPEAKER_14

Simple lines.

SPEAKER_07

Okay, this is you.

SPEAKER_19

I just thought you might like to know. You're the only one I ever love.

SPEAKER_06

Destruction is creation. Yeah. Take the things to build a love.

SPEAKER_07

This picture is called with joy in your heart. It's called with joy in your heart. With joy in your heart. That's good. Sorry, I take that. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_18

That's too awful. That's too awful.

SPEAKER_06

It's only a dream. It's only a dream, alright. It's only a dream. It's a love.

SPEAKER_07

Vibration. That's kind of the vibrative quality too. Yes.

SPEAKER_06

Oh love, it's a vibration.

SPEAKER_07

That's just cheap stuff. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_06

Get out the get out the vibrating love.

SPEAKER_14

This place is called my love puff.

SPEAKER_06

They played this. They played this at that jazz. Oh, was it a blues or they played this though?

SPEAKER_14

A uh festival. Jazz blues festival. When was that? Blues, jazz, red, and blues, jazz festival.

SPEAKER_06

This is a hit though. This is a hit though. Right? No, it's not. This is not.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, we're putting this in this this is a part of the rank. Okay. The first song we played, the second song is one more song. Everything else that we've heard up to this point is up for commentary.

SPEAKER_06

I'm keeping keeping uh I'm on track.

What Counts As A Hit

SPEAKER_06

So this is a feather in your cat, this one sounds like. Oh, don't call me macaroni. Just no naval officers, Alice. Okay, what does it mean? Shout out to Eyes Wide Shut here. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Shout out to what's it? He stuck a feather in his cap and called it back around and put that.

SPEAKER_06

That's just Yankee Doodle. Yeah, Yankee. My friend.

SPEAKER_07

Shout out to Yankee Doodle.

SPEAKER_09

Let me finish my sentence.

SPEAKER_07

Shout out to Brad Hamilton. You just had to bring up Yankee Doodle now.

SPEAKER_06

Dude. That's where dude came from. You realize that. I did not know that. Dude came from Doodle.

SPEAKER_07

Yankee Doodle? Dude? Yeah. So it was like Doodle. Hey Doodle, what's up?

SPEAKER_06

It's a metrosexual. A dude. Because you put a you wear the English fashion when you were trying to be hit. Oh, it goes on the Yankee Doodle. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

I just thought it was just like a like a like seventies or the eighties.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, look at me up, kids.

SPEAKER_06

Well, now it's coming at you.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. Oh, look at that one. Oh, this is no future shot.

SPEAKER_02

That was my straw.

SPEAKER_18

I that was my straw.

SPEAKER_02

Control your damn control. Till it blow.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, dance.

unknown

Oh my. Oh, dance, don't stop. Oh, to the no future. To the no future.

SPEAKER_02

Oh to the no future. Oh, well, blow yoka. Oh to the no future.

unknown

Oh well, blow yoka.

SPEAKER_06

I can stop.

SPEAKER_02

Oh mother dear cup

No Future Shock And Real Stakes

SPEAKER_02

of feel before they brought up you. Now here, wait forward.

SPEAKER_06

I'm a man. I guess this is about a man. Smoking? Whoa. It's about drugs. Whoa.

SPEAKER_10

I can't. And we were going up and and the whole future.

SPEAKER_06

Twenty years for nonviolent drug crimes. Maybe this is probably what I'm thinking. It's probably about some of the no future.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, they're from Brooklyn.

SPEAKER_06

Hey, they get they get baked all the time. Thank you, Shiloh Bob. He loves this song. It's motivational, kind of.

SPEAKER_17

Sindy in the middle of a beautiful, to the no future.

SPEAKER_08

Although I sip and yearn.

SPEAKER_00

I hope you know we have a serious situation.

SPEAKER_08

Althani, I sip and yearn. Make. Make it make it. Make it. Make your future Danny High.

SPEAKER_07

Alright. Okay, now here's here's the other hit. Oh wait, no. Oh wait, no,

Killer Crane And Prog Turns

SPEAKER_07

no. This is Killer Crane. This is a great song. But it's not. It's unprovoting. It is unprovoting.

SPEAKER_06

This is This is why we do this. The piano simple. This one looks a lot.

SPEAKER_07

Sounds like super stress. A little bit. A great sage.

SPEAKER_19

Leave it behind.

SPEAKER_07

Or like Genesis feeling.

SPEAKER_06

It's kind of 80s feel.

SPEAKER_07

But like Peter Gabriel, 70s Genesis. He can do that. He can mirror a lot of different types of artists. But he still has some sounds. I don't want to mention his town. I guess his his sound. Yeah.

SPEAKER_19

Sunshine. God is night, steal us the sun. Sunafray. And after all, we're free to fall. And how we stay.

SPEAKER_06

Transformation.

SPEAKER_14

Leaves me with a festival, Jazz Blues Festival. Where was that?

SPEAKER_19

Blue, you're my voice. Thank you, sir.

SPEAKER_06

Shout out to Sudoku.

SPEAKER_07

Shout out to the Kratty Kid. Killer Kraves.

SPEAKER_04

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_06

Those metallic guitars. Oh, maybe. I think it is. Yeah. I thought it was a banjo. But I love how it echoes the echoes the vocals. How cool is that?

SPEAKER_07

I know. Yes, but two in the cast for the songs. Check the gardeners. Very psychedelic too. This is like Sergeant Pepper's E. Yeah. That and with like old Genesis like nursery crime. There's a album called Nursery Crime and kind of look at the flu. You're crazy! I like you. No, it's like all psychedelic. This is this is like Prague to me.

SPEAKER_19

It might be impractical to seek out a new one. We won't know the kids play if we never take the trade. I'd like to collapse with you and ease you against this song. I think we're gonna have to get a little bit more.

SPEAKER_06

I haven't been an artist for that in a while. We need to get some xylophones in your house. Okay.

SPEAKER_17

My love. You're crazy.

SPEAKER_06

I'm not crazy.

SPEAKER_19

I'll get it out.

SPEAKER_06

What choice of words will be from this rule?

Choice Of Words And Vocal Craft

SPEAKER_06

That's the ultimate simple line instrument. Xylophone.

SPEAKER_19

What choice of words will take me back to you?

SPEAKER_07

Maybe we can begin a show. Ding ding ding. Like it's like the 1950s. Oh.

SPEAKER_19

Your love makes a fool of you, you brought me to understand. A heart doesn't play by rules, and love has its own demand. But I'll be there to take care of you if ever you should decide.

SPEAKER_15

You drank all over me like a cheap fucking soap.

SPEAKER_06

Can't by love, you know.

SPEAKER_17

Any problem to choose of words will break me from this.

SPEAKER_18

You can do anything you want to do. The choice of words will take me back to you.

SPEAKER_16

Oh rich.

SPEAKER_06

It is. It's like strings. It's the really big. Yeah, they do, don't they?

SPEAKER_18

Calabero. What is that sound? Glistening. Through your music.

SPEAKER_07

I think that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_06

It's not easy to go from regular to falsetto like that.

SPEAKER_16

When they choose a rough guitar, you hear the rough guitar. Yeah.

SPEAKER_19

What choice of words will take me back to you.

SPEAKER_06

It's like polished strings. Rough with a guitar.

SPEAKER_07

Okay, this is a new

New Cannonball Blues Chaos

SPEAKER_07

cannonball. Listen.

SPEAKER_10

I can't. And we were going up and and the whole oh my god, the whole goddamn thing went into a like a like a flip-out and it flipped and bent the whole railing, and it must have gotten caught on the carpet on the on the stairs.

SPEAKER_06

Done.

SPEAKER_11

And listen.

SPEAKER_02

Just a pornographic animation. As we watch the spiders will eat it.

SPEAKER_12

What the fuck is he talking about?

SPEAKER_06

Pornographic annulationships. Alright.

SPEAKER_02

Nobody just got this.

SPEAKER_01

Come on.

SPEAKER_06

Job. Give him the company already. C C me on this. Let's go.

SPEAKER_10

And um, my feelings are hurt.

SPEAKER_02

Blue, you're my boy!

SPEAKER_01

Thank you, sir.

SPEAKER_02

You're getting by staying low, like on the four hundred blows. Makes you feel like you're all by yourself. So when the chance comes along where you could help out wrong, the bullshit got you stuck up on the shelf.

SPEAKER_04

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_02

Heavy, I'm not ready. Do you feel like you're swimming in the nose? Will maybe follow the sound, the shooting out of your crowd.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, they're talking about shockers there. They're talking about shockers, I swear.

SPEAKER_10

I love Leo.

SPEAKER_06

I love the horns. They add that overlay, the hard high notes. I know. This isn't a pump up jam, it's nothing else.

SPEAKER_07

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Shout out to the runners. Should run forward usually.

SPEAKER_07

Gonna run right. That's forward if it's everything to the right.

SPEAKER_06

Clearly it's got him singing.

SPEAKER_01

Otherwise, a little more sixty-three hundred dollars suit.

SPEAKER_02

Push up and bit make a bed. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_16

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Alright. Damn. I I think I you guys already know what I number one might be. Really? Okay. I mean, you were into it. Come on. The listeners. Yes, I they can't see me because I'm freaking out over here.

SPEAKER_07

We have that kind of thing going, almost.

SPEAKER_06

Yes.

unknown

Do you know that if you swim feel right?

SPEAKER_19

And I love how I'm living, cause I cough my bill, but I can't stop thinking how it's all gone wrong. Then the cracks will be obvious before too.

SPEAKER_12

What the fuck is he talking about?

unknown

What's the matter with your next door neighbor?

SPEAKER_19

I heard he had sex breaks in danger. But you can kick it with a complete stranger. I think I hear him call.

unknown

What's the matter with my next door neighbor?

SPEAKER_18

I think I hear him call the talk.

SPEAKER_19

If I don't better hope you can see in the dark of your heart.

SPEAKER_00

I hope you know this! We have a serious situation!

SPEAKER_07

More than a few simple line. I know it's like I have like more of that.

SPEAKER_19

My repetition is this. My repetition.

SPEAKER_06

This is definitely blues jazz. This is like not hitting any genre. It's really good. Build up in the release. Ah. Totally. Oh, here we go with the guitar. Here's the paramount stall out here. Oh man. Triplets and the full-off stuff. These guys jam. Holy shit.

SPEAKER_13

You think guy? I got some ruts, some diamonds. I wanna unload them.

SPEAKER_06

I would love to see this band live. Yes. And that song in particular would be a very good live.

SPEAKER_07

So

Forgotten And The Avant-Garde Corner

SPEAKER_07

we've got Forgotten. Here we go.

SPEAKER_19

And every hills. Burning off plants to scrape it away. I made it.

SPEAKER_06

It's a summer job. It's just a summer job. Yeah. Scraping away plastic. Yeah. I was gonna lifeguard, but yeah.

SPEAKER_07

I got this other gig. Yeah. Charging up stuff on a credit card in Beverly Hills every day for the summer. Scraping plastic.

SPEAKER_19

Dances the alley.

SPEAKER_06

I feel like this song is made out of like a slam poet. Like a slamming LA. Like Tundai, like slam poet. He's just like, I got this poem. Yeah. I'm just just write some shit for this. Yeah. This is dissing. This is this is uh dissing LA. This is avant-garde. This is probably the most avant-garde song. On the album.

SPEAKER_18

It's riding its name in the sky.

SPEAKER_19

It's down away down the night. What should we wear?

SPEAKER_06

Who's for dinner? What? Not not a big fan of that lyric.

SPEAKER_12

For the summer. What the fuck is he talking about?

SPEAKER_18

It's running its name in the sky. We stayed away until the side.

SPEAKER_06

Okay.

SPEAKER_18

Now we go.

SPEAKER_06

The size. Was that like a two? It's going up to a three. It's not good. Well, okay. 3.5. Doing some like military shooting or like feels like a military activity in the background or something. Yeah. That's the blue angels today. I'm I'm done with that shit. Loud noises. Say it so many times. Yeah. I'm spoiled for performance. I mean. There was the one guy who went under the bridge. He went under the naval bridge and never flew again. He showboated? Yeah, he went under the navel bridge. Yeah. Yeah, he showboated. He never never piloted again. Oh, they they shout out to the blue angels. We're talking about the blue angels here. Yeah, I know. I just didn't know if he was. Did they fire him or something like this? Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Army Corps and engineers were like, yeah. That guy cannot get yourself. Shout out to the coffee and tea drinkers here. Get your heart rate up.

SPEAKER_07

This is a fan. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Another can of ball. Tom May and Paula a little bit. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Call the party apart.

SPEAKER_18

I'm not gonna give you a light. I'm gonna show you the light.

SPEAKER_06

It really opens up, I love that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

It's kind of like sound video. It really is.

SPEAKER_06

Kinda takes me to the beyond section in Bedbath. And beyond. Uh I'm like looking for xylophones in a home in a home goods store. And I'm holding a pet elephant, like a pick me elephant. Yeah. And then a cosmos are just gonna get to like the refrigerator sending it. The bottom drawer of the refrigerator has this like deck card King of Diamonds. And Alice's Wonderland starts opening up into a myriad of just high-dye Jerry Garcia explosions. It's good. It's a it's a good thing.

SPEAKER_07

Okay.

Top Three Non-Hits Draft

SPEAKER_06

Oh wow, that's it, I think.

SPEAKER_11

Just take it easy, champ. Why don't you stop talking for a while? Maybe sit the next couple plays out.

SPEAKER_07

No, that was that was for me, actually. So anyway.

SPEAKER_06

Unloaded my rocks, you know, on this album. This has been good. Yeah, really good one. Let's uh some diamonds. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Alright, so let's uh get let's get into them here. Uh what do you what do you have for your number three?

SPEAKER_06

So the hits are the second song and will do. Yeah. Which as hits the first and sixth song.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. Unless it's like number one on side two is will do, you know. It's like I don't know if there were five and five. I think they in record form. I don't know. Who knows? Right. Interesting. Yeah. But anyway, uh what do you think of number three?

SPEAKER_06

I do like caffeine consciousness, and I really want to put that on my list, but I think uh number three. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Okay. For me, I'm gonna go with one of your favorites, I think. This is a new cannonball view. Okay, yeah. Yeah, I just that was kind of punchy, you know. Totally. And yeah, it was just a lot going on. I mean all of the little instruments bells, whistles, guitars, you know, drums. It was all came together so well. Alright, that's my number three.

SPEAKER_06

Nice. Alright. I'm going killer crane, number two. Um I think it's sort of a song that they might have maybe two songs together that they wanted to do. It just seems like it's got a lot going on. And in a way, it echoes what this man wants to do is make these groundbreaking and tear down the walls. I know. I know.

SPEAKER_07

I was thinking the same thing about that one. Um But I also agree with you, like Repetition was a great song. That's gonna be my number two. Um I like the way it built up and it got momentum and energy at the very end, and uh there was some chaos, but it was good. Like good trouble.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

And uh so it got me going. So it's a good like adrenaline song, so that's my number, this is my number two.

SPEAKER_06

Um announcing no future shock should be an honorable mansion. Yeah. Uh as well as cafe consciousness. Um those two are very, very strong for me. But what I covered in the beginning. Uh yeah, the new cannibal blues. I think the third lesson really got me. The first couple lessons, I was like, maybe just not into it, maybe just like thinking about other things in my life that I needed to do, and I'm like, maybe because this man inspires you to do things that you like to do while you listen to them. Sure. But if you're just listening, totally uninterrupted. New cannonball blues. Or you're working out, you're just you know, you need something in the background. New cannonball blues. Might be that pump-up jam. It is a pumpkin that tips you over the edge into obscurity.

SPEAKER_07

If you're doing cardio, you need repetitions. Yeah, like the runners out there. If you just need that extra push over the cliff, you know, you need to take it up to eleven. Repetition and cannonball blues, I think. Yeah, both of those. I went with Killer Crane. I like just it's like melodic. I kind of play like a little bit of it's just like it's just like the strings were so touching. Yeah, it was very touching. And uh just kind of got me all over clamped. Yeah. Just uh I'm glad we got it.

Emotional Range And Final Wrap

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, you had some connection to joint. But I'm glad we got some sensitivo. Yeah, we needed to get that in the uh in both of us.

SPEAKER_07

It was a very emo emotional album. You know, there was like the high highs of new cannonball blues and repetition. But then Killer Crane just took it down. Yeah. You know, it was a wide spectrum and it was emo it was it was good emotionally. It wasn't like I want to kill myself emotionally.

SPEAKER_06

I mean, they could have had an 11th song. This one goes to 11, like uh instead of caffeinated consciousness, they could have like a chamomile come down or something, and it would just be like an ambient. I would love to hear this band do like an ambient set where it you know less is more. Yeah. I think they all with it. Instead of it being like slam poetry in the background or something.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, it's like their version of like a mountain jam, you know, like that goes on for like 30 minutes. Totally gets like super like chill and then comes back out.

SPEAKER_06

Good call, man. They need uh get out of Brooklyn to go to the Adirondacks or something. Yeah. Just uh get on their you know button-down white shirts and khaki shorts and get at the Algebra Club in the Adirondacks and just record there for a couple months.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, maybe the the heart-shaped bathtub for the newly website. Right right in something like that. Yeah. Good acoustics. Excellent stuff. Alright. Good good talk. Good listen. Thanks, thanks for tuning in. Oh, and uh we'll get you on the flip side.