Jagwar Ma: Howlin

That moment when a song is driving you crazy and then suddenly it clicks? That’s the energy we bring to Jaguar Ma’s Howlin, the 2013 debut that blends indie rock, synthpop, and psychedelic pop with a heavy dose of Manchester influence. We’re chasing the details that make this record stick, from layered vocals with a Pet Sounds hint to the buzzing textures that feel like they belong in the mix even when they irritate you. 

We move track by track through the singles and the deeper cuts, digging into why “Uncertainty” hits so hard, why “The Throw” feels built for a dance floor, and why repetition can be either hypnotic or lazy depending on the song. Along the way we connect the band’s choices to bigger listening themes: how mood changes what you hear, how an arrangement can carry a lyric-light track, and why a debut album can earn real acclaim even if the band’s run is short. 

Then we land the plane with our rankings, including the surprises that rise after a few listens and the tracks we think fall into filler territory. If you like album reviews, indie music commentary, synth-driven rock, or just hearing two friends argue about what makes a song work, you’ll feel at home here. Subscribe for more, share this with a friend who loves Howlin, and leave a review with your top track from the album.

Transcript

SPEAKER_23 0:07

I should have got two!

SPEAKER_26 0:22

Alright, thank you for listening to Greatest Nine Hits. I'm Chris. And playing the song What Love is my co-host Tim. This is What Love, the first song from the record Howlin. The debut album by Jaguar Ma. Jaguar spelled with a W and the MA at the end. So sort of like a play on words, I guess the band. Three guys. Um two original founders. I guess were kind of uh playing with words, and uh the J just use the word Jaguar, and then the Ma is the last name of uh the synth player, the drumbeat guy, Jono Ma. So it's uh it's Jono, and it's uh uh the other two guys. Uh god damn it. I always forget this guy's first and last name. Gabriel Winterfield. He's the vocalist, uh also plays guitar. Uh the two of them formed, I guess they met each other in 2007, got together in 2010, guess it crossed uh their paths crossed. Um guess they were did some did some sort of a performance 2010 together with some other supporting local musicians. And uh that's when they s they began frequently getting together and then playing around in studios with sounds, melodies, things like that, and then added uh Jack Freeman who plays bass and uh I guess uh recorded uh this album, which was uh released uh in August, I think, of 2013, something like that. Yeah. Alright. August 13th, 2013. Yep. So what you're gonna hear is a lot of indie rock, um, a lot of Manchester, uh a lot of synthpop, a lot of uh like British music, you know, from Manchester 80s and 90s. It's really experimental and psychedelic. You even hear some beach boys in there. It's uh it's good stuff. It's nostalgic. And I think that that's what their intention was. I think Johann O'Ma mentioned that uh that looking for that type of a sound was intentional. So uh a nod to their past. And uh really good. Uh it's a debut album. It got widespread critical acclaim. Um I think that they were nominated for some big awards for best up-and-coming artists in Australia at the time, and so and it's good stuff too. I mean, I've listened to the album four or five times myself, uh, leading up to our recording here. Tim is m more familiar with them. And he's uh you know, he's brought me over. There's a lot of good stuff. There's some stuff that's just a little bit repetitive, in my opinion. Uh, but uh two three two truths can be held at the same time. You can like a lot of it, and you can you know, there's some of it that you may not like, so anyway. But um and even though I would say they're super heavily influenced, I think even Noel or Noel or Liam Gallagher, or one of the two, I think it's Noel Gallagher is a big supporter of these guys, and I can understand why. You know, there's a lot of the a lot of the same stuff, a lot of the same type of music. But uh with that being said, there's you know, there's a number of hits or uh I guess I I would say there are four songs that were um released as singles. Uh one called Come Save Me, The Throw, Um Man I Need, and Uncertainty. And uh despite the fact that those are the singles, though, um I mean like we normally do, we'll listen to all the songs, rank the top three non-hits at the very end, and exclude the the singles or the hits from from consideration, but we're thinking of just uh ranking the top three non-hits and including all the songs in what we're gonna rank. And so uh I think Tim is in agreement with that as well. Um and I think it's to their credit, they didn't really I I think that the the music is good. I mean really good. It's it's better than most stuff that I hear that's that you that you would hear on the radio. And they're I mean I think that they're at that level, they just um but they didn't I I think they only came out with one other album after this, and then they just went on their into separate projects. So, you know, I guess they never really you know had or took the time to develop things, but I mean maybe that's the way they wanted it. But um yeah, like I said, they there's a lot of critical acclaim out there for the band, and so I'm listening I'm looking forward to listening to all the songs. Um we've got great sound clips to go with them, a lot of caddyshack stuff. Um some stepbrother stuff. Uh we're gonna we're gonna have a good time. Um lot of golf metaphors, little gunga galunga. Um is excited. Um we're gonna give him free reign on the uh on the sound clips, so he'll be doing that. I'll be uh I'll be doing my commentary as as as usual. And uh yeah, we're gonna have a good time. Look really, really looking forward to it. So he's gonna come by. Uh sponsors today. It's gonna be the regulars, the cocoa, you know, heavy fun ball. We're gonna have a heavy fun ball in there, but uh shout out to them. We're gonna shout out to the runners, the walkers, and uh the Manchester. When they do the layering of the voices, the the harmonizing. Yeah, that does get a layer of the voicey.

SPEAKER_24 7:26

Yeah, a little pet soundsy. Pet soundsy, for sure. Yeah. These two have talent. I mean these and the bassists. They all They all come together.

SPEAKER_26 7:37

They come together. That's right. Why don't we uh why don't we dive right in? What do you say? What love? You know? This is uh the one you hold on.

SPEAKER_24 7:46

Yeah, sure. Miss Miss Miss Farmer. Lead us off.

SPEAKER_03 7:49

Where's the littlest son we have who's been coming on things?

SPEAKER_26 7:54

Alright, we're off the rails already.

SPEAKER_24 7:59

Alright. I'm all thumbs today.

SPEAKER_26 8:04

That was the right line. That wasn't the way you're gonna bring it up. No.

SPEAKER_24 8:08

Alright, Susan Farmer. Yeah.

SPEAKER_31 8:11

Fear and love. Fear is in the negative energy spectrum, and love is in a positive energy spectrum. It's repetitive here.

SPEAKER_24 8:21

Do you get it? It's like a ripcord. They have a ripcord sound.

SPEAKER_26 8:30

There's that little static that was driving me crazy earlier. I was like being an old man about it. I was like, what's the static? What is that sound? What is that? I thought it was our equipment. And he's like, no, no, no, no, that's like part of the the effect. Oh.

SPEAKER_24 8:55

Sun. Coming on things. I thought he's saying sun, but it's another song. We bring another song to you. I always thought this is like a morning song. Like another sun. Like the repetitiveness almost of the day and repetitive of what the day brings, and you just have to keep after it every day almost.

SPEAKER_26 9:18

Well, every day is another sun, you think about it.

SPEAKER_24 9:20

Yes. And you know. Shout out to Homer Simpson.

SPEAKER_21 9:26

Learned son. It's pronounced learned. I don't that made no sense.

SPEAKER_28 9:34

Strike. This conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye.

SPEAKER_26 9:42

That's his uh sit the next couple plays out champ clip that he gives to me. That's uh thanks, Al. Thanks, Al.

SPEAKER_24 9:54

Yeah. I really like this as a walk around the house with coffee kind of. They bring it around. Slow it down. Song another song to work.

SPEAKER_25 10:22

We'll wait.

SPEAKER_24 10:24

Shut up, we're waiting for we're waiting for tomorrow. There's that buzzing sound. Uh it drives me crazy sometimes. Hello?

SPEAKER_12 10:33

I have a phobia.

SPEAKER_24 10:35

Oh god, the buzzing, the buzzing. I I can't stand it.

SPEAKER_32 10:40

What what is it all about?

SPEAKER_19 10:52

Whoa, hell it's not.

Uncertainty Turns Up The Heat

SPEAKER_26 11:14

It's like that little part at the end was like playing the whole time. Just couldn't hear it. All that shit is fucking cool. That was like a nice little mashup thing. Alright, that was what love. This is uncertainty. Yes. Mmm. This is baby making music. That's what this is.

SPEAKER_20 11:51

I've got some.

SPEAKER_15 11:53

Okay, whoa!

SPEAKER_33 11:56

Through a person.

SPEAKER_26 12:00

I paid more attention to the words here.

SPEAKER_33 12:02

What a freak!

SPEAKER_26 12:06

Weather should practice. Even heaven should practice. Okay. Sounds even better than I thought.

SPEAKER_15 12:17

Okay. Whoa!

SPEAKER_20 12:20

I've got something drawing.

SPEAKER_24 12:34

Weather? Let's take it away.

SPEAKER_15 12:36

Whoa. Whoa, hey, hey guys!

SPEAKER_24 12:39

Wow. The stars are drifting the swallows. Okay.

SPEAKER_21 12:47

Whoa! Oh. Oh my god. Wow.

SPEAKER_24 12:54

They build up here. Great synth. Mm-hmm. How can you into the base there? Looks so gloomy when you gloom.

SPEAKER_17 13:09

How can you how can you look so glimmer when you gloom? How long looks so good.

unknown 13:20

Be my night.

SPEAKER_24 13:23

Be my night.

SPEAKER_19 13:25

Be my night.

SPEAKER_26 13:29

Be my night, okay.

SPEAKER_24 13:49

Love that. A little treble. Oh tremble and stammer.

SPEAKER_12 13:54

I have a phobia.

SPEAKER_24 14:04

So when you're when she is gloomy, howling at something. Uh-huh.

unknown 14:13

Looks so good.

SPEAKER_24 14:14

He's just like loves that. I don't know. What does it mean?

unknown 14:22

Looks so.

SPEAKER_24 14:23

Sad Linda?

SPEAKER_18 14:24

Anyhow, you think about flipping around and wait.

SPEAKER_26 14:28

Yeah, there's like an undercurrent of like relationship tension in this album. I think. I don't know. No? Am I missing something?

SPEAKER_06 14:40

I'm not sure. I do know what you mean, sir very two shaggy.

SPEAKER_24 14:46

I don't know. It's like there is, but there isn't. Yeah.

SPEAKER_26 14:54

She's like, you're not the man I need. That that's later on.

SPEAKER_24 14:59

It's like when you're gloomy, howlin' looks so good. Howlin? I think I just need a chew on it.

SPEAKER_19 15:11

Chew on it!

SPEAKER_32 15:22

What what is it all about?

SPEAKER_22 15:27

Thank you, uh salesman. Fargo.

SPEAKER_24 15:39

Oh man. The Fargo guy? I'm already waiting for their next album. You know.

SPEAKER_19 15:46

Well we're waiting.

SPEAKER_26 15:53

Okay, we're at we're on song number three, The Throw. The throw. This is another single, but still open for uh top three.

SPEAKER_30 16:03

Honestly, throw me a bone here.

SPEAKER_11 16:44

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Now did you say yes, sir? I think he said yes, sure.

SPEAKER_15 16:58

Just border, don't touch it. Don't touch it. Okay, whoa!

SPEAKER_21 17:16

Entice my love. Well, this piece is called uh live my love pump.

SPEAKER_19 17:23

Oh what is that?

SPEAKER_24 17:31

Oh blazing saddles.

SPEAKER_31 17:48

Here is in the negative energy spectrum.

SPEAKER_21 18:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_29 18:09

No, but this is but once but the the sun glass you didn't wear sun.

SPEAKER_15 18:14

I'm dancing. Sunglasses. When you found them, you were like, I love sunglasses.

SPEAKER_29 18:21

Right, okay, people, you have to tell me these things, alright? I've been frozen for 30 years. Okay. Throw me a frickin bone here. I'm the boss. Need the info.

SPEAKER_24 18:51

Entice. Entice my love over and over again. Then cause you found someone like the truth. And then this cool synthie ace thing.

SPEAKER_27 19:04

Boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. Yeah, I like that little boop boop boop boop in the back.

SPEAKER_26 19:11

Just the right amount of static, you know.

SPEAKER_03 19:14

Do it. Do it.

SPEAKER_28 19:20

Dave. Dave. This conversation and serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye.

SPEAKER_22 19:41

Rescue me, all I need.

SPEAKER_14 19:49

Picked them up from the printers yesterday. Good callering. That's bone.

SPEAKER_33 19:56

What a freak!

SPEAKER_22 19:59

That's bone.

SPEAKER_33 20:02

What a freak!

SPEAKER_24 20:04

That's bone. Little two dragon action on the sound deflex right there. Coming at ya.

SPEAKER_01 20:16

Mr. Han!

SPEAKER_16 20:19

Bird's caras and inhibitions will be gone.

SPEAKER_13 20:24

Will you be sure unless you have another beat? Yeah, sure. Will you be sure?

SPEAKER_26 20:35

You know that's all good, man. I I'm starting to get why this song is so big one.

SPEAKER_24 20:43

It just feels like you're in the like that cave in the Matrix when everybody's dancing because they like beat the robots. Right. Like. And uh Yeah, they're not listening to ads. It's great. They're having a good time.

SPEAKER_26 21:01

Uh well, and also just the whole. There's a rave vibe that it has to it. Like I can see how like just like thousand people like dance forward just dancing to this.

SPEAKER_24 21:15

I can see a little more cowbell. Yeah.

SPEAKER_30 21:19

Call the fire department! It was out of control.

SPEAKER_24 21:26

I like the little like I hear that.

SPEAKER_26 21:33

You made a complaint about the cowbell though. A little cowbell might be cool here. I don't know.

SPEAKER_25 21:39

And dancing.

SPEAKER_24 21:46

It's like a spacey. But it has a certain human like touch to it. It is this is more for the floor, sort of like at the end. Yes. When you're just it's very Manchester Moon. This is definitely like uh Stone Roses.

SPEAKER_26 22:06

Yeah, Stone Roses like the Rosency.

SPEAKER_24 22:08

This is like Stone Roses for sure.

SPEAKER_26 22:11

Stone Roses in 1986.

SPEAKER_24 22:13

I mean, some of their jams were just unstoppable. They were so good. At like 145 in the morning. They were amazing. I couldn't imagine seeing them alive in a club. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_26 22:29

Late Friday, early Saturday morning. Let's get started. Yeah.

SPEAKER_20 22:33

This is that loneliness.

SPEAKER_26 22:41

I'm a man. I'm a man.

unknown 22:48

But shit.

SPEAKER_24 22:49

Sounds like the 60s. Yeah, this is very Tame and Paula alike. Who they open for. Yes. Yeah. For like a tour or so, right?

SPEAKER_26 23:01

Something like that, yeah. Or when they debut, that kind of thing.

SPEAKER_24 23:05

Yeah. This album's coming out. I would love to. I mean, that's a good show.

unknown 23:09

Yeah.

Sixties Vibes And Loneliness Talk

SPEAKER_24 23:10

Jaguar Maw and then Tame and Paula. That's an amazing number. Bam. Those two together crush it. Yeah. Make sure you hydrate before that one. It'd be dancing a lot, yeah. Oh yeah, here we go. Winter. Wintergreen. It's got a sort of sixties guitar vibe to it. Motown.

SPEAKER_26 23:54

Sounds like Motown a little bit to me.

SPEAKER_24 23:58

Rhythmic. No bells and whistles. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_26 24:05

It's drumpey, it's a Motown kind of thing. It's kind of echoey.

SPEAKER_19 24:15

It's in the blood. It's in the blood.

SPEAKER_16 24:18

It's in my blood. It's in my disease. It's a rare blood disease. It's in my blood. Stick it to Demon Meosis.

unknown 24:25

It's in my blood disease. It's in my blood.

SPEAKER_26 24:29

Jack Black.

SPEAKER_25 24:36

Nobody makes me bleed my own blood.

SPEAKER_24 24:37

Of loneliness.

SPEAKER_25 24:38

Nobody!

SPEAKER_24 24:43

Call friends if you're lonely. Come on. Don't be lonely. Yeah, what? Doesn't need to be it doesn't need to be uh significant other. Join a book club. Bird watching society. A dancing unit.

SPEAKER_26 25:08

Bird watching has become just a lovely pastime. As I get into bird dancing.

SPEAKER_24 25:15

Bird dancing club.

Come Save Me Grows On Us

SPEAKER_26 25:17

Join do it. Do it. Let it go, man. Okay, this one is come save me.

unknown 25:34

I don't think you want Milla go on to.

SPEAKER_20 25:38

I don't think you want Milla go on. So what I got to do to get around. What I got to do to get around.

unknown 25:50

I don't want to love my bit. I don't want to love my bit. I don't know what you want.

SPEAKER_34 26:01

Cause I want to.

SPEAKER_26 26:06

Yeah, I was thinking. I did not like this song.

SPEAKER_24 26:11

And now it's starting to come around. It's their sort of like anthem. Yeah.

SPEAKER_21 26:20

Wanna come and save me? Hey. Yeah. Do it. Come on. Do it. Come on.

SPEAKER_20 26:30

They go around again. They just go around and run.

SPEAKER_24 26:40

Mom may like to want you to do to get around it. It's sort of like they say the same words over and over and all of their little it's no variety in the words, but that's not. I don't think they care. It's not what I what you wanted. What what come and save me? It's not what you wanted.

SPEAKER_06 27:12

I'm not sure I do know what you mean, sir.

SPEAKER_19 27:15

Come and save me.

SPEAKER_36 27:23

Come and save me. Whoa, Nelly!

SPEAKER_24 27:27

Who's saving who here? That little guitar riff though. They have like little hooks that I really like.

SPEAKER_26 27:37

Yeah, you can hear it deep in. Like the everything is on the come and save me, but. Sounds a little French.

SPEAKER_24 27:44

Sounds like French indie rock or something, like.

SPEAKER_26 27:47

Yeah. Well, it's just like stuck in time. This is like in America, this is like stuff before the Vietnam War. Like it's bubblegum, it's it's kind of like checking out a little bit, but psychedelic.

SPEAKER_24 27:59

Well. It's psychedelic in that it's like Yeah, campfire.

SPEAKER_26 28:06

But it's got an innocence to it, sort of. At the same time.

SPEAKER_24 28:09

You're at the commune, there's a couple pools, there's some ponds.

SPEAKER_15 28:13

Ooh. You got a pool over there? We have a pond in the back. We have a pool and a pond. A pond would be good for you.

SPEAKER_11 28:26

So I got that door, which is nice.

SPEAKER_26 28:36

Some of you could characters catch it.

SPEAKER_24 28:41

Saul, what do you think about this one?

SPEAKER_07 28:42

Hi, oh, hello. Oh, we got a Hello.

SPEAKER_24 28:49

Surfer guy on the news? What do you think about this one? The barrel get pitted, so pitted, like he's he's getting saved by the every wave is his next savior. That guy. I mean. You gotta save yourself, people. Come on.

SPEAKER_23 29:08

Woo hoo, you had me and then you lost me, Billy.

SPEAKER_14 29:15

Jonoma's gone crazy on the on the machines. One of the exercises that you're supposed to figure out what you would want to do.

SPEAKER_24 29:28

Looking on the ground. I love that. The more it goes on and on, you kinda like it.

SPEAKER_26 29:46

Yeah, I like this transition into this.

SPEAKER_32 29:51

You just lamp.

SPEAKER_24 30:00

You can find some good lamps on the ground on Trash Night. Very hypnotic.

SPEAKER_36 30:07

Whoa, helly.

SPEAKER_15 30:11

Okay, whoa. Well. Okay, whoa.

SPEAKER_26 30:31

That was really good.

SPEAKER_31 30:33

It's in the negative energy spectrum.

SPEAKER_26 30:37

Alright, this is four.

SPEAKER_23 30:45

I should have got two.

SPEAKER_24 30:50

You'll walk this one off. I don't know. You dance this you dance this song a couple times, you might not walk it off.

SPEAKER_26 31:00

This is a This is a good one.

SPEAKER_25 31:06

Anyhow. Talk amongst yourselves anyhow. Shout out to the runners on this one. Pull hammy if you go too fast, yeah.

SPEAKER_26 31:30

Yeah, don't pull a hammy. Shout out for that curve.

SPEAKER_25 31:38

Shout out to the runners. Shout out to the tea drinkers. The importance of the psoas muscle, discuss.

SPEAKER_24 31:46

Peppermint a chamomile. A little cardamom, it's a good thing.

SPEAKER_26 31:51

Which one's better before 7 a.m.? Discuss.

SPEAKER_35 31:57

It's a little harsh.

SPEAKER_26 32:00

I don't think any tea is good before seven myself.

SPEAKER_23 32:11

But don't step a number two.

SPEAKER_24 32:14

Two plus two. Got four here.

SPEAKER_30 32:24

Honestly, throw me a phone here.

SPEAKER_24 32:31

Let's see you're up.

SPEAKER_07 32:32

What happened to soda? I thought we all agreed on soda. No, we don't.

SPEAKER_24 32:36

We don't care for soda.

SPEAKER_07 32:39

Care for soda.

SPEAKER_25 32:42

You don't care for soda!

SPEAKER_20 32:48

They go around again.

SPEAKER_32 32:53

Oh no, we don't like soda at all.

SPEAKER_01 32:57

They go around again. I need to not like soda.

SPEAKER_27 33:02

Google.

SPEAKER_01 33:03

It's bully, it's recording.

SPEAKER_14 33:06

PC load letter. What the fuck does that mean?

SPEAKER_11 33:11

Talk amongst yourself. So I got that going, which is nice.

SPEAKER_24 33:17

Should we uh give it a sponsor in?

SPEAKER_00 33:20

Why don't you let me fix you some of this new mo cocoa drink? All natural cocoa beans from the upper slopes of Mount Nicaragua, no artificial sweeteners.

SPEAKER_26 33:29

Nice. Any more sponsors, maybe? I don't know.

SPEAKER_24 33:43

Cracks me up every time. Can't have a happy fun ball anymore. Well.

SPEAKER_23 33:51

Woohoo, you had me and then you lost me, Billy.

SPEAKER_24 33:54

Better not lose it.

SPEAKER_08 33:56

It's happy, it's fun, it's happy fun ball.

SPEAKER_09 34:03

All right, make money, so I sold pralines on the street corner.

SPEAKER_24 34:09

Shout out to Richard Simmons. Shout out to Richard Simmons. Exercise is coming up. We're just we're just sort of priming you for all that. You can just in the meantime just mellow out here. Yeah. I feel like it's just not a downer song. Downers? What is she saying? Or what does he say? I have no idea. It's interpretive.

SPEAKER_26 34:52

I think that's the whole point.

SPEAKER_08 34:54

Inaudible. The earth, this vast interconnected system of life. It's an Allen. Is not divided into fragments. But is a continuous flow. I'm a man. A dance. I'm a man that never stops. Now take a moment and consider this. I'm a man. You are not a separate observer of life. I'm a man. You are life observing itself. The very idea that you are different from the world around you is a mental construct. An idea built over time by our thoughts, language, and conditioning.

SPEAKER_11 36:10

Take it easy, champ.

SPEAKER_03 36:13

In reality, you Why don't you stop talking for a while?

SPEAKER_08 36:20

You and I, the trees and the rivers, the stars and the clouds.

SPEAKER_03 36:27

Maybe the next couple plays out.

SPEAKER_08 36:35

They're all part of the same web of existence.

SPEAKER_26 37:00

That was not there enough. That was four. That was amazing. Instrumental, yeah. Oh. Okay.

SPEAKER_28 37:21

Clearly. Not a shot draga.

SPEAKER_37 37:28

Lettergore, let her go.

SPEAKER_24 37:35

Let her go. Yeah, this is like Tony Montana said. This is let her go. Let her go. So this would be Tony Montana's favorite song.

SPEAKER_02 37:47

I know you don't wanna let her go.

unknown 37:50

And I don't you don't want to go. And I know you don't wanna let her go.

SPEAKER_26 37:56

Another quote loose, you're gonna love me again.

SPEAKER_24 38:02

Break the chain in me. With me. Yeah, what's that all about? It's a string now, it's not a chain. Whoa, whoa. Wait, what?

SPEAKER_26 38:20

That's weird. That's right. Oh my god, what is he talking about?

SPEAKER_32 38:33

What what is it all about?

unknown 38:37

Break the chain with me.

SPEAKER_24 38:48

Yeah, it could be it could do that. I hear you on that.

SPEAKER_26 39:07

There's some good stuff going on here, but the bad I want to do it. Do it.

SPEAKER_24 39:20

Nah. It's a no for me.

SPEAKER_29 39:22

Okay, people, you have to tell me these things, aren't we?

SPEAKER_17 39:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_26 39:35

It's I feel like a decis a business decision needs to be made about this song. This is a filler one, maybe. I don't know. It's alright. Yeah. Alright. We're fading it out. They're fading it out here. Let's just we'll hear it out. We won't yank it like it's a do it. Amateur knight of the Apollo. Amateur Knight of the Apollo. Okay.

SPEAKER_24 40:03

This one is called Man I Need This is where they're gonna get all deep on us. I feel it. They're trying to get deep on us here now.

unknown 40:30

Is there another before this?

SPEAKER_19 40:34

Is there another?

SPEAKER_26 40:36

So far so good.

SPEAKER_19 40:38

Is there another side to fall by? Are you willing to die? Anyhow Cause I'm about to submerge the ocean and resurrect the sky. Okay.

SPEAKER_24 40:57

Are you though?

SPEAKER_19 41:04

But all you say to me is what you want to see, you're not the Now they're fighting.

SPEAKER_24 41:10

I thought they're gonna make up, but now they're back to fighting.

SPEAKER_21 41:19

Oh just on the man I can be a challenge. I'm a man. I'm a man. He's like I'm a man. I am a man. For this.

SPEAKER_26 41:51

I don't want to be a part of this conversation with the old school.

SPEAKER_24 41:55

Old school movie. Yeah.

SPEAKER_26 42:05

I don't know how you can do that with the blindfold, but a coat.

SPEAKER_24 42:10

Maybe you have a coat on. Richard?

SPEAKER_10 42:12

I wanted to put like a coat on and stuff, and they and they told me that I should I should just be me.

SPEAKER_24 42:21

Just be you. Right, Richard.

SPEAKER_26 42:27

Yeah, I like the bass on this song.

SPEAKER_24 42:30

Very minimal, what do you think? Manchester here. Yes. Mooney Man. Mooney Manchester.

SPEAKER_26 43:09

Yeah. And depending on the mood that you're in, this is something kind of relaxing about it. Thug beat, but relaxing at the same time.

SPEAKER_24 43:24

I want them to just go experimental and be weird. And play more like instrumental. You think this is too rigid? I don't know. I think they're trying to like have a song structure. Alright, what do you think, Richard?

Exercise Plus Pushups And Pralines

SPEAKER_09 43:46

So I saw pralanes on the street corner.

SPEAKER_26 43:49

Well, how how how fitting. This is the song's called Exercise. So that was Man I Need. We're in Exercise now. Cue the Richard Simmons clips.

SPEAKER_09 44:00

What's the problem with that?

SPEAKER_24 44:04

Exercise your chemistry. Richard really could just own the whole room, get people moving around in rhythmic fashion.

SPEAKER_26 44:22

He was a good motivator, you know? He was a thong. I don't know. He said shorts. Richard Simmons?

SPEAKER_11 44:32

Thong up his ass. Richard Simmons? Richard Simmons has a thong up his ass?

SPEAKER_26 44:42

Never had a thong up his ass. The shorts were pretty short.

SPEAKER_10 44:55

Wanted like a code on it.

SPEAKER_05 44:59

Didn't do that shit? No.

SPEAKER_24 45:05

I did 27 push-ups last night.

SPEAKER_11 45:07

So I got that. Yeah, let's do that sneeze, huh?

SPEAKER_24 45:12

15? 27. Once you start counting, actually, you can't do as much. It's not really about counting. Just gotta do I got up to 28 a year and a half ago, and now I'm down to like I know.

SPEAKER_26 45:27

Get out of shape so quickly, you know.

SPEAKER_24 45:29

You just gotta do the push-ups where you go push-ups to failure, and then you build on that next night. Or you can just you do cover. You just slowly lower yourself to the ground after failure. You do a failed push-up that you try to plank on a push-up.

SPEAKER_26 45:51

Yeah, it's like a hybrid between a plank and a push-up.

SPEAKER_24 45:55

Not even a push-up, you just go down off a push-up. Half plank, half push up a couple times. Take it until you made it. Truly exert your muscles. Yeah.

SPEAKER_21 46:06

Exercise. Sell some pralines.

SPEAKER_28 46:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_21 46:11

Pralines? Is that what you say? Pralines.

SPEAKER_26 46:17

That's the way you say it in the world. Prolins. Say novels. Prolins. Prolines.

SPEAKER_13 46:24

Shut up! I didn't say anything.

SPEAKER_24 46:27

I said pralines.

SPEAKER_16 46:32

Thump. Thump. Someone shut up. We share. Someone shut up. We share. Someone shut.

SPEAKER_24 46:38

We shall kind of liking this one now. Oh well, it's got the birds chirping in the back. It's got sol in there.

SPEAKER_07 46:50

Hi, oh, hello. Hello.

SPEAKER_24 46:52

I'm here for the push-ups. You got sol, you got bongos. Saul's on the bongos there.

SPEAKER_25 47:00

Oh, I played the bongos. Oh. I got the bongos on Craigslist. I reskinned them with dehydrated cow hide. From my neighbor.

SPEAKER_26 47:16

Oh, and the cats are all over the place.

SPEAKER_05 47:28

See him do that shit? No.

SPEAKER_24 47:35

The runners. And the sightseers. The sightseers. The bird watchers. Sure. Yeah. Alright. Bird watching is great exercise.

SPEAKER_26 47:52

I I don't know how to respond to that, but it could it could be.

unknown 47:58

What do you know?

SPEAKER_19 48:04

What do you know?

SPEAKER_26 48:10

Simple lines.

SPEAKER_20 48:26

Simple lines intertwining.

SPEAKER_24 49:20

You don't know what it feels like to know you, yeah.

SPEAKER_19 49:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_26 49:30

Right. I'm having a hard time with this time.

SPEAKER_30 49:36

I'm gonna sleep throw me a phone here. I'm gonna sleep throw.

SPEAKER_24 49:42

I'm not sure I do know what you mean, sir. They want to hold each other or something. I don't know. Just go to the bedroom. Just get out of here. Did you have to? Oh.

SPEAKER_12 50:06

I have a phobia.

SPEAKER_24 50:21

Well, you know yourself, I guess. So maybe you do ipso facto do know what it feels like to know you if you are you knowing yourself.

SPEAKER_26 50:32

Yeah, well, I mean, it's just you don't feel the wrath.

SPEAKER_21 50:39

Learned, son. It's pronounced learned. Alright.

Backwards Berlin And Weird City Bits

SPEAKER_26 50:47

Oh. Oh, now we're in backwards Berlin. Okay. Okay. Now we're in a new we're in a new song. Oh, okay. This one? Okay. No?

SPEAKER_24 50:59

Oh. There's a a great great song by Cheetah Dad. It's called Frontwards Prague. What's that all about? It's definitely exists. It's like a genre? Yeah. Okay. Instead of backwards Berlin, frontwards Prague.

SPEAKER_26 51:23

Oh, okay, I gotcha. Okay.

SPEAKER_24 51:25

Cheetah Cheetah Dad.

SPEAKER_23 51:28

Jaguar.

SPEAKER_24 51:29

Instead of Jaguar mom. Cheetah Dad. Okay, yeah, I'm getting it. Ah, come on now. It's a word. Forwards. Forwards Prague. Yeah. Sideways Budapest. Sideways Budapest. Diagonal. Is that too far west? What's a D city. Um Dusseldorf?

SPEAKER_26 51:59

Diagonal Dusseldorf. Yeah. Shout out to our Germans. Shout out to the Germans. Shout out to Frankfurt. Shout out to Dusseldorf. Shout out to Cologne. Shout out to Munich. No. Shout out to Berlin. Especially Berlin. This is your song, Berlin. Don't take that crap that they're giving you in Bavaria. Don't let it happen. You speak high German. Take pride in that.

SPEAKER_24 52:43

Alright. This is getting somewhere, I guess. It's very nice. It's more experimental than their outlier.

SPEAKER_21 52:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_26 53:08

It's like really, really good ambient. Ambient. Sambient.

SPEAKER_24 53:15

Yeah. Sh this is teetering on ambient.

SPEAKER_26 53:18

It is teetering.

SPEAKER_24 53:21

For the little little Tuck you in track.

SPEAKER_26 53:26

This is a little Tucky in track.

SPEAKER_24 53:31

You've had your exercise.

SPEAKER_18 53:35

Why don't you know? Why don't you know? Why don't you know? Why don't you know?

SPEAKER_26 53:49

What is that drugs?

SPEAKER_18 53:56

Why don't you call me when you know? Why don't you call me when you know how I feel? Why don't you call me when you know how I feel? Why don't you call me when you know? Why don't you call me when you know? Why don't you call me when you take it easy, champ?

SPEAKER_21 54:29

Put down the phone.

SPEAKER_03 54:31

Why don't you stop talking for a while? Maybe sit the next couple plays out. Do it. Do it.

SPEAKER_21 54:46

Why don't you why don't you chew on it? Why don't you not?

SPEAKER_32 54:53

What what is it all about?

SPEAKER_10 55:01

This conversation Your skin is hanging off your bones. Your skin is hanging off your bones.

SPEAKER_24 55:09

Shut up, shut up, shut up. She says shut up a bunch of times.

SPEAKER_13 55:16

Shut up. Shut up, shut up. Shut up.

SPEAKER_03 55:29

Someone shut up.

Top Three Picks And Wrap Up

SPEAKER_26 55:32

Pam. Pam. Alright, this is our last one. Kind of wrapping it up here.

SPEAKER_35 55:52

It's a little harsh.

SPEAKER_24 55:55

No, it's it's ambient. It's good.

SPEAKER_26 55:58

No, you gotta like it. So what do you think about for your top three? Well.

SPEAKER_24 56:16

Hmm. Um thinking it might be just simple cut and drive, but it might not be. Um I think number number three, I have to go four. Four was the dance number that just kept giving. And I really didn't have much intention of that being good until I listened to it more, and then now it like it's awesome. So if you're just in like a non-lyrical state of mind and just want to groove, yeah. This one could be could be on there. So number three is four.

SPEAKER_26 56:58

Alright, good one. Um I'm gonna say backwards Berlin is my number three. Nice. I liked the it was it was like really chill. It was like a great way to end the album. Yeah. And uh I just liked how it just uh I I'm glad it wasn't super intense, because like at times like the others were like that, and this one just sort of put you into like it just like calmed you down kind of a thing. And I like that. So that's gonna be my even though it was kinda whiny, I'm still going with it, I think.

SPEAKER_24 57:34

Yeah. Yeah, I mean it deserves something.

SPEAKER_26 57:38

It just seems sincere, you know.

SPEAKER_24 57:40

It does. I'm gonna go I'm gonna go uncertainty for my number number two. And I, you know, as much as I do like What Love, it didn't quite make it on there, it probably would be my fourth favorite song. Uh and it has such a it had more of a catchy hook that I could play on guitar, and now I probably listened to it so many times. I don't want to listen to that song for a while. Yeah. Uh but it's the catchiest.

SPEAKER_26 58:12

Yeah, it's not here.

SPEAKER_24 58:14

I think. Uh dun dun dun dun dun dun dun. But yeah, it's number four for me, but uncertainty is number two. Because it was is more is even more hooky. It had all the sort of like could be on the radio, like banger quality. How can you, how can you look so gloomy? And it was the first real song that I heard from these these guys, and I was like, what is this? This is awesome. Yeah. Uncertainty was the yeah.

SPEAKER_26 58:49

No, it's helped it hooked me with this group. It's good number two. I mean, almost to the point where it maybe it even shouldn't be. I know. Maybe that if there was any song on here, I would say that would be the song that would be a hit that should be excluded. Right. But you know, uh, let's uh we're gonna keep. I mean I I I I feel the same that you do uh with that song. I'm gonna make it my number two as well. I mean, maybe even a tie for number one. Nice. Uh it's uh at at worst my second song because it is it's it's just a really good song. It's it's strong. It uh it uh it works well. Like the the different parts and the transitions, it uh it's it it hooks you.

SPEAKER_24 59:34

Yeah. A lot of parts for my number one is the throw. It had lots of different parts. It went into the abyss, I think. Again, honorable mention to Come Save Me. But still, it just didn't make the cut for it's a good song, it's a great song, but the throw was I think a little bit a cut above even the other dancey dancy tracks, which is I think I think what they're good at.

SPEAKER_26 1:00:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_24 1:00:10

Crazy dance numbers.

SPEAKER_26 1:00:12

Yeah, the throw was really, really good. Um it's probably even a better song. It's up there with uncertainty. But I I wanted this one to be my favorite, and my favorite is four. Oh nice. So I'm gonna make that my my number one. I wanna dig a little bit deeper, and it it didn't really have it was just uh I just like the shout out to exercise too, that was really good. Um but yeah, four. He did such a good job with all the the synths. Yeah. And uh that's what I like, the creativity with the different ways of finding the synths in and making it one song. That's it's my favorite.

SPEAKER_24 1:00:58

It may not be the strongest song on here, but it's it's uh basically what we're saying is there's only like one, two, three, four songs off this off this that aren't that re-listen. I mean, you can just kind of sweep them under the rug.

SPEAKER_26 1:01:17

That loneliness I would sweep under the rug.

SPEAKER_24 1:01:20

Um let her go.

SPEAKER_26 1:01:23

Yeah, let her go.

SPEAKER_24 1:01:24

Man I need. And did you have to? Yeah, did you go? I liked Man I Need. That was That was pretty good. Let her go, then Did You Have To or two songs that I I don't I think we're really filler songs in that loneliness. Yeah. Yeah. But honestly, unique stuff. Unique, unique, interesting.

SPEAKER_26 1:01:55

Let's hope they get together. It'd be cool if they got to back together again and did another album. Yeah, I'd I'd go see them if that if that were uh the case. But anyway, yeah. We'll put a bow on this. Uh any last words, any last clips that we wanna go. That's yeah. Alright, let's end on that note. Woo!

unknown 1:02:20

Woo!