The Dandy Warhols: Come Down

What do coffee shop workers and rock stars have in common? Quite a bit, as it turns out! Join us for a fascinating exploration of a nostalgic ride with the Dandy Warhols and their iconic album "Come Down," blending the eclectic sounds of psychedelia and Britpop with tales from their Portland coffee house roots.

Prepare for whimsy and humor as we dissect the lyrical brilliance and peculiar undertones of the Dandy Warhols' tracks. You'll get playful commentary on the delightful absurdity of Christian rock with the tongue-in-cheek track "Hard On For Jesus." The conversation meanders through intriguing musical landscapes, drawing comparisons to icons like Neil Young and Brian Eno, and examining the ambient qualities of lesser-known tracks that deserve their moment in the spotlight.

Our episode crescendos with a lively discussion about our favorite songs from "Come Down," spotlighting the infectious energy of "Every Day Should Be a Holiday" with its uplifting vibes and new wave influences. We celebrate the emotional highs of "Whipping Tree" and the concert-like fervor of "Boys Better," sharing our personal song rankings in a friendly banter that pays homage to the band's creative genius. And because no trip to Portland is complete without a quirky reference, we can't help but nod to "Portlandia" with its charmingly odd "put a bird on it" mantra. Whether you're a coffee aficionado, music lover, or just along for the ride, this episode promises laughter, nostalgia, and a hearty appreciation for the art of sound and brew.

Chapters

• 0:00 Coffee House Manifesto and Music Review
• 14:44 Musical Analysis and Commentary
• 47:29 Musical Analysis and Commentary
• 1:10:36 Album Song Analysis and Discussion

Transcript

Coffee House Manifesto and Music Review

Speaker 1 0:00

Welcome. Thank you for coming to the meeting of baristas and coffee shop workers throughout the city. We hereby begin a manifesto against customers and management.

Speaker 2 0:10

And these rules need to protect us as the artists that we are.

Speaker 1 0:13

Just off the bat. One rule I can come up with is no talking when you come up to the counter.

Speaker 3 0:18

Yeah, All right, thank you for listening to the Greatest Non-Hits. I'm Chris, and playing the first song on the album Be In is my co-host, tim. Thank you for tuning in, thank you for listening, and the album that we're going to listen to today is the Dandy Warhol's Come Down, which is their second studio album, from a band from Portland, which is why we played the Portlandia intro there. So anyway, yeah, so that's sort of a nod to that and it's a great album. That's sort of a nod to that. And, um, it's a great album.

Speaker 3 1:09

This is a band that is, you know, sort of on the fringes of psychedelia brit pop, shoegaze, you know it's a mix of different genres. Kind of a garage band background kind of a thing came up and you know they started in 94. This album is from 1996 actually was. I guess it was recorded in 96 but actually released in july 15th of 97. I, I don't know if I've got that straight, but nevertheless it's from the 90s, but you know, mid to late 90s and, uh, great songs. It's a little, it's got a little bit more psychedalia to it versus the third album, which was their commercial success. We could have done that, yeah, but you know this one is a little bit harder and it's got really good songs on it and you know, in, you know in sync with the show, the greatest non hits. You know, the whole point of this is kind of like the music club.

Speaker 3 2:06

Getting back to the original premise here, this is about digging into songs that are overlooked, that are really, really good, and that's why we chose this album and we're going to talk about that and a lot of other things about this band. They're kind of interesting, even though they're really kind of a bunch of punks, you know, but at the same time they do a really good job of, you know, interweaving those different genres, you know, within a garage band thing and really a coffee house vibe. You know, um, because I guess, from the way the band originated, uh, it was formed by, uh, I guess, two classmates like courtney taylor taylor and peter holmstrom. Uh, they were the two courtney taylor taylor's lead vocals, peter holmstrom's guitar player, um, they added eric, which was he was on drums, I could think until 90, you know, eight over some disputes, but good drama.

Speaker 3 3:09

Great look good drama great, look good drummer, and uh, so he joined. And then the last person I guess courtney taylor, taylor's girlfriend at the time was in the band. She didn't work out. And then they, um, they added zia mccabe, who I guess they found in a coffee house or something like that, and that's sort of getting back to the coffee roots, that whole portland scene, portlandia connection. So there are a lot of great songs on this and at the end, uh, we're gonna, we're gonna rank our three top nine hits. So I can't wait. Um, I've dug into this album a little bit. Um, I know every day should be a holiday is a really good song. Um be, in which you know tim is dealing. Now, it's good, it's one of the longest songs on the album. Um, I don't know what else can we talk about here? There's a lot of heroin, a lot of drug stuff on this. You know, yeah, the name is inspired by Andy Warhol. You know, interesting clip here from 1986.

Speaker 3 4:24

I ran out of ideas. He was like being interviewed. I guess it was describing a piece of art and they asked him what the inspiration was. That was sort of the lead, the setup to it. Tim's got some interesting thoughts about the band and we're also going to. He's going to have some more. He's going to dig it.

Speaker 3 4:45

There's a the out of the film called dig, which, uh, they're a subject of. You know they're one of two bands. The other one is giant uh, brian's Jonestown massacre and, um, you know it was a Sundance, uh, award-winning documentary of their relationship for the previous seven years leading up to the when they made it, but I think it's like around 2004, so, um, and I guess like during that time period, dandy warhols were taking off and then brian's jones town massacre was, I guess, flailing and there was a lot of tension between the two bands, particularly the two leaders, you know being courtney taylor, taylor and, uh, I forget the other cat's name, but, uh, tim is gonna give you that here. He is how you doing man, good, yeah, good so who was wait.

Speaker 3 5:34

Who was the um?

Speaker 2 5:35

anton uh, I forget his last name, that's all right an who. Both of these bands were uncharacteristic and Anton and Courtney's relationship. They were leading a sort of musical avant-garde West Coast Portland thing going on and I guess it was a music scene. It was a.

Speaker 3 6:08

Yeah, it had its own. Yeah, it was. It was a music scene, it was. Uh, yeah, it had its own. Yeah, it was like. It was like alt indie, that kind of shoegaze, right. Yeah, that kind of thing it was, but it was. They seem to be also be influenced. There's a song on here that kind of sounds like pink floyd. So you can see, like you know, from different periods. I think that's what's clever about you know, even though, like, we describe as a bunch of punks and that's kind of how they simple lines intertwining.

Speaker 3 6:30

Yeah, simple, um, certainly very good, lick my love pump ish yeah.

Speaker 2 6:35

You know, we're glad we found these, these, these rock musicians. Some jobs here, um, you know, kind of degenerates. But you know, know, shout out to the tea drinkers. The yes, the hard drug users shout out to the heroin addicts.

Speaker 3 6:51

We love how much more black.

Speaker 1 6:52

Could this be? The answer is none.

Speaker 3 6:55

None is that good, yep yeah it's anyway. Don't do drugs, though, but anyway, yeah, so we ready to go, you ready? Yeah, let's hit it. Yeah, any last thoughts? Yeah, no, no no. Okay.

Speaker 4 7:16

Yeah.

Speaker 3 7:17

I'm sorry, finish your thought, mister.

Speaker 2 7:20

That was bad timing. He's just being in the moment here.

Speaker 3 7:24

Yeah, let's be in the moment.

Speaker 1 7:33

They go around the block, they come back.

Speaker 4 7:35

They go around again.

Speaker 1 7:50

Time to get creepy.

Speaker 2 8:03

This is kind of creepy.

Speaker 3 8:05

That's a big put on.

Speaker 2 8:07

That was Hedford. I think that's Hedford saying it's a put on. They just got this edgy appeal. Yeah, it was in an interview, but really they're just easy going fun loving guys and girls.

Speaker 3 8:17

They seem pretty, they're chilling, they're not taking themselves seriously.

Speaker 1 8:24

They realize that it's only a dream.

Speaker 2 8:36

It sounds like a little bit of Ravi Shankar yeah.

Speaker 3 8:41

Zorba the Greek, maybe, I don't know Do we have a little Alan Watt here.

Speaker 2 8:45

Yeah, controls.

Speaker 1 8:48

what happens next, we would ask that because we are used to the idea that the process of nature consists of controllers and controles.

Speaker 2 9:02

This band, as well as Brian Jonestown, are all about taking it down, taking down the power structures, you know yeah.

Speaker 3 9:17

Like from a musical standpoint, though it doesn't have a lot of cymbals like at least up to now it's building up. You know, I think it's for, like, people who just want more of an ambient kind of feel Right, it's not quite heavy, it's taking the edge off a little bit. I kind of dig that.

Speaker 4 10:11

Alone in your room.

Speaker 2 10:14

Oh, he's talking about oh.

Speaker 3 10:18

Oh yeah, both. Judge Reinhold was in both of those clips. Can you believe it? Thank you.

Speaker 4 10:46

That was speed. And Are you uh? Are you uh, you know, holding no man, I'm not. Well, I was wondering if you could hold something for me. What? Are you smuggling furs or something?

Speaker 3 11:00

No, oh, you took out the drugs. That was kind of cool. I don't like this music.

Speaker 2 11:11

Has he ever?

Speaker 4 11:11

told you about his friend Frank.

Speaker 2 11:14

Sounds like Donnie Darko fans out there. Oh, it's kind of like that. Yeah, great movie In my doom, I'll be in here for a while.

Speaker 3 11:36

When you're in your room for a while, it's not night. I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 4 11:40

I'm sure oh wait, just a minute. Hey, wait hey.

Speaker 3 12:05

Yeah, a lot of heroin stuff going on here.

Speaker 1 12:07

We're marijuana and heroin.

Speaker 3 12:10

It's so weird. She just, you know, came up to me and started talking to me about crap, take the high road, baby. It's like a song that has me in it and loses me. You had me in, you lost me.

Speaker 1 12:50

Oh, you had me and then you lost me.

Speaker 4 12:55

Tom, don't go, you're still my best friend.

Speaker 2 13:03

I'd be happier if I just am. That's good.

Speaker 3 13:15

Heroin isn't the answer.

Speaker 2 13:16

You could always meditate, realize that all that shit is bullshit. It's bullshit.

Speaker 1 13:26

I'm making people happy. I'm the magical man from Happyland in a gumdrop house on Nallypum.

Speaker 3 13:34

Lane.

Speaker 2 13:37

Oh, by the way, I was being sarcastic.

Speaker 3 13:42

I love that episode, mr Plow. I love that episode, mr Plow. Shout out to the Simpsons fans.

Speaker 2 13:54

This is a great first time. That's the second album. I love the key. Yes.

Speaker 3 14:04

That was one louder.

Speaker 1 14:07

But the important thing is that you are.

Speaker 3 14:14

That was.

Speaker 2 14:14

All right.

Speaker 3 14:21

We have a little power cleanser. Hold on, okay, all right, all right, all right.

Speaker 4 14:24

All right, we have a little power cleanser. Hold on, okay, bad boys, what you want, what you want, what you gonna do.

Musical Analysis and Commentary

Speaker 3 14:31

It's also setting it up. This song is called Boys Better Bad boys. I don't Did you time that. That was awesome. Yeah, give yourself a pat on the back. I didn't have anything to do with that. That was all, tim. I did the first couple of songs. Yeah, boys had better beware, I'm a big boy now.

Speaker 2 15:30

Color your hair. I'm a big boy now. Better beware Boys. Better Boys, yeah. Why are boys such jerks?

Speaker 3 15:46

Who's?

Speaker 2 15:46

that Like one of the Tanner girls? No, it's the Little Rassles.

Speaker 3 15:52

Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 15:56

That's the same thing. Boys are fire.

Speaker 3 16:01

I am fire Shout out to.

Speaker 2 16:04

Butt Red Shout out to the pyrotechnics out there. I bet this band would be good with pyrotechnics Wasted affair.

Speaker 3 16:14

Fire isn't a heroin thing. It's like people want heroin. I don't know if they'd like big flashpots or I don't know. Maybe, Maybe Get them out of their funk?

Speaker 2 16:22

Yeah, I wouldn't know. Maybe, maybe Get them out of their funk? Yeah, I wouldn't know.

Speaker 4 16:27

No.

Speaker 1 16:40

I am the third revelation.

Speaker 2 16:44

All right. That's a cool song.

Speaker 4 16:53

And I am a racing car driver, just like you except I am from Formula.

Speaker 2 17:01

Shut up, you race car drivers out there. Shut up. Shut up, borat Everybody in Dover, delaware, what's up? How's it going? Dover, delaware, shout out to the first day. Shout out to all the guys Boys night, all right. Zia's like what? I can't come, yeah.

Speaker 3 17:30

Hedford's like I want more money. Whoa this is getting crazy. There's a really good Barbershop Rag on this too. Not that we have to have a clip for it, but yeah, taylor Taylor's a good singer too. He is that whole Taylor Taylor thing. I can't get past the two things. It's like Key and Peele Jammy, jammy, jammy, kind of like that. There's a lot Checky checky.

Speaker 2 18:49

That's good.

Speaker 3 18:51

All right, it's what Song number two now that? Was song number two, that's no, this one's Minnesota.

Speaker 4 19:03

Oh, he's a little guy.

Speaker 3 19:06

Kind of funny looking, oh God.

Speaker 4 19:34

Doesn't that sound like Neil Young? Yeah, it does. Oh God, oh God.

Speaker 3 19:42

Oh God, oh, oh God.

Speaker 1 19:44

Oh God, oh God, oh crap, oh yeah, in a slumber, a fine slumber.

Speaker 4 19:55

A summer baby dance.

Speaker 2 19:57

Dance of that number. Oh, those numbers are right, right, gleaming In a magic realm, in a church of love. Oh, oh, those numbers are right are they Gleaming?

Speaker 4 20:16

Ha ha, ha, ha ha. Oh, oh wait, just a minute, oh crap. Ah, that feels, that feels better, oh wow.

Speaker 2 20:50

I like that instrument. What is that? The vibra slap.

Speaker 3 21:03

The vibra slap. It's probably it could be Zia Nikkei on percussions.

Speaker 2 21:13

Oh Zia, oh yeah, oh crap Stand, it's a pretty. What kind of finders do you?

Speaker 1 21:24

are you looking for? Huh, stand by, it's a pretty kind of finders view. Are you looking?

Speaker 2 21:29

for I don't know what that instrument would be okay there's a lot of noise on this, like they had me, then they lost me.

Speaker 3 21:42

There's a lot of noise on this.

Speaker 1 21:48

Like they had me, then they lost me. Boo-hoo, you had me and then you lost me. Billy, Okay, are you sure? Because I mean, how do you know?

Speaker 3 22:02

Yeah, all right, this one's called Orange. It's a longer one. Yeah, no, I'm kind of busy here. Bye.

Speaker 2 22:28

Taking it down a notch. Yeah, you don't have to be on heroin to enjoy this.

Speaker 3 22:34

Ah when am I going? More Alan Watts? Huh, you have to go there every episode, don't you?

Speaker 2 23:01

Hey, he deserves a spot in the sun on our show. He just goes.

Speaker 1 23:05

They go around and around, they come back, they go around again. They just go around and around.

Speaker 2 23:13

You know, I invited Rita and Marlon for a barbecue on Sunday.

Speaker 1 23:15

I won't be here Sunday.

Speaker 3 23:18

Shout out to Makoko Lifetime sponsor.

Speaker 2 23:24

I'm not crying with this song Are you. Shout out to Tobias Fumke, arrested Development.

Speaker 1 23:36

Yeah.

Speaker 2 23:55

It's gold, jerry, it's gold.

Speaker 3 24:00

Shout out to Kenny.

Speaker 2 24:00

Banya.

Speaker 1 24:01

Shout out to Kenny Banya yeah.

Speaker 2 24:13

Did some snow angels the other day. That's good.

Speaker 4 24:17

You did.

Speaker 2 24:17

Huh yeah, where were you at? Just at the field, okay, yeah.

Speaker 3 24:23

You went all the way down there, did some angels and came back Did you have Dottie.

Speaker 2 24:28

Yeah, some angels, right, it's good. She goes after your hat and your gloves and scarf, right, even strangers Stealing strangers' gloves, yeah.

Speaker 3 24:44

We're like in early January for future listeners. So it's a little brutal out there snowing we had a lot of snow yesterday.

Speaker 4 25:08

I'm not, I'm not arguing here, I'm cooperating, and there's a bit going on with you.

Speaker 1 25:17

Shout out to Fargo fans out there.

Speaker 2 25:27

This is that shoegazy, yeah Stuff.

Speaker 3 25:34

Yeah, this is the Shoe gaze influence.

Speaker 2 25:39

Doesn't matter how you find the pot of gold.

Speaker 1 25:41

Be to the rhyme, all that matters is that you beat the leprechauns.

Speaker 4 25:44

Alright, matter how you find the pot of gold B to the Ryan. All that matters is that you beat the leprechauns. What the fuck is he talking about? What the fuck?

Speaker 2 26:01

These ain't more drug references? I have no idea, soldier of Orange.

Speaker 3 26:08

I like a roll in the snow.

Speaker 2 26:13

He's weird, but he makes a great peanut butter sandwich. We've just seen peanut butter pounding beer.

Speaker 3 26:23

Shout out to Peter Pan.

Speaker 2 26:28

Peter Pan peanut butter pounding beer shot. Peter pan, peter pan peanut butter lovers. Yeah, everybody in the band has peter pan syndrome and they don't want to. They don't want to grow up, which is good for our sake, I guess right, well, yeah, that's the whole point of it this sounds like their song sleep d, dandy Warhol's Sleep. It's one of their bigger songs. This laid the foundation for them to make a lot of more mainstream stuff, I think.

Speaker 3 27:01

Well, I mean with this, with that distortion, yeah, it's cool.

Speaker 2 27:05

Yeah, it's cool. Yeah, it is cool, it's really good, it's well done yeah.

Speaker 3 27:15

Yeah, this is the subtle lines intertwining. Of distortion, like holding notes, releasing you know this is lick my love pump status all the way. This is a classic example very good. All right, this is I Love you, and it's just I love you, I love you.

Speaker 1 27:47

Like Michelle. Well, this piece is called I Lick my Laugh Pump.

Speaker 3 28:03

Okay, this is tricky.

Speaker 2 28:07

Oh, wasn't orange supposed to be done with breathe, pink Floyd.

Speaker 3 28:14

Um no, it didn't have that in it.

Speaker 1 28:22

Oh no, cliff Lamp, I love lamp.

Speaker 3 28:27

Do you even know what love is Brick?

Speaker 1 28:30

Be, silly, Darling light of my life. I'm not going to hurt you. You didn't let me finish my sentence.

Speaker 2 28:41

I think if you say it this many times, it's like in one crazy weird it's a drug-fueled song. Yeah, oh, here comes the, it's going to stop. Here comes the verse, the one verse I love you, I love you.

Speaker 1 29:01

I love you. I only just met you before, but I can't understand. You don't want me anymore.

Speaker 4 29:14

You make me think I'm too smart and weird, but I can only make you want to hear he's weird.

Speaker 1 29:35

Oh, that's cool, Fuck. No, that was for drugs.

Speaker 3 29:45

Drugs, love a jaw, that was for drugs. Drugs love a jaw. That was all too. I see the harmony. Just I feel better now and that's the end.

Speaker 2 30:22

Just I feel better now and that's the end. Feet, big foot off.

Speaker 1 30:42

That's baby making.

Speaker 4 30:43

That's what that is Just saying let it out, give it some air. Man Play with it.

Speaker 3 31:21

We don't get drunk.

Speaker 2 31:32

Shout out to the dry januaries out, uh, out there. Yeah, I like this one actually. I don't know, it's not dwelling on me, it's not that bad. It's sitting, yeah, sitting on me. It feels like a, a weighted blanket or something well, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 31:42

I think if you're in a certain mood, you're sort of chilled out, just got done with a long run or something like that, it might be kind of If you need to be uplifted. You just hear I love you over and over again a junkie because heroin is so passe. But today, if you think that I don't know about the this one's called where if you were there last night, not if you were there last night not if you were the last junkie on earth what am I talking about?

Speaker 4 32:26

Okay.

Speaker 1 32:39

We met at.

Speaker 4 32:41

Juana and heroin. It's nothing to do with the gym.

Speaker 1 33:06

You're on drugs.

Speaker 2 33:09

What? That was good. Yeah, got some piercings. The words are cool on this. Yeah, on this song Big Big put on.

Speaker 4 33:27

Heroin is so passing.

Speaker 1 33:31

Heroin is so passing. Okay, we good yeah. We good hey, because we got some people Bill Pong's dead, Okay.

Speaker 4 33:38

Oh, oh, oh.

Speaker 3 33:46

Oh, oh, oh, I love lamp. Okay, I won't forget this one, not if you were the last junkie I heard it's a good one.

Speaker 2 34:01

it's more like it's more of a poppy song, yet it's about something that's like a downer topic. Yeah.

Speaker 1 34:19

I'm making people happy.

Speaker 4 34:25

I'm making people happy.

Speaker 3 34:55

Are you uh? Are you uh, you know, holding Drugs? I'm not arguing here, I'm cooperating and we're doing all we can. Okay, yeah, this is so very Stone Roses and the harmonies, they're all. It's like Brit pop. It's very Brit poppy for an American band.

Speaker 2 35:17

It is.

Speaker 3 35:17

And the other side no less like on the West.

Speaker 2 35:19

Coast.

Speaker 3 35:23

So you can see the influence. Yeah, it is good drinking music.

Speaker 2 35:38

This is definitely Stone Rose. It's imitation, copycat music. Yeah, this is this one Totally A couple years later. Yeah, seven years later, to be exact.

Speaker 3 36:00

Yeah, we don't get drunk, uh, yeah.

Speaker 2 36:07

We don't get drunk Lies. Your lyrics say otherwise, yeah was that for the interview?

Speaker 3 36:14

Yeah, okay.

Speaker 4 36:17

That was Taylor.

Speaker 1 36:18

Taylor, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe baby, maybe baby, maybe baby, easy baby, you don't want to get hooked on this stuff, easy baby.

Speaker 2 36:41

I could have gone for the last song too. What is that effect? The space, they got. The space flange, yeah, oh, they caught. The waves Battle, some serious waves, humongous waves, so pitted, oh, if you're out in the water.

Speaker 4 37:21

Out on the waves. I'm not going. Could do this today.

Speaker 1 37:38

There's something happened to him, aren't there? I barely get pitted.

Speaker 4 37:55

So pitted, I'm so pitted.

Speaker 3 38:06

It almost kind of sounds like the tempo of it. It sounds like the song Legs from ZZ Top.

Speaker 2 38:10

Oh, okay, wow.

Speaker 4 38:11

There, there, there, there there.

Speaker 2 38:16

Wow, okay, I like that.

Speaker 3 38:23

Or no, it's the other side. Pickle From Eliminator yeah 83. I mean, they're doing a good job of like borrowing from different audiences For sure, and adding their own effects.

Speaker 2 38:36

Yeah, the harmonization, yeah.

Speaker 4 38:42

Who got the lighter? Take the high road, baby. I'm a shopper, I got it.

Speaker 2 38:56

Yeah, it is.

Speaker 4 39:05

Hey, what are you hey?

Speaker 1 39:16

Doesn't matter how you find the pot of gold B to the Ryan. All that matters is that you beat the leprechauns.

Speaker 3 39:21

Alright Nice. This song is called Good Morning.

Speaker 4 39:27

Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 39:29

Okay, we're going back to the heroin stuff here. Okay, I don't know, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 39:36

I don't know what the fuck is he talking about. I'm going to sit the next couple of plays out. Sit them out. This reminds me actually of Burt Bacharach, or. Oh yeah, what's that other English guy?

Speaker 3 39:59

Inga Burt Humberdank.

Speaker 2 40:05

Oh Bono, he's not even from England.

Speaker 3 40:09

He's Irish, I'm just saying talk amongst yourselves give you a topic. Good morning mornings are never good, really, are they no? Unless you sleep through them. No, it's a quiet time once you get into the routine.

Speaker 2 40:44

Get your coffee, get your tea, little biscuit water, some plants.

Speaker 3 40:52

Good morning, shout out to the commuters out there, drive. This band called the Church Sounds a little bit like the Church, the Sun Under the Milky Way. I think it was on Dining with the Arcos.

Speaker 2 41:32

He's got some angels, it's.

Speaker 3 41:35

Charlie Angel, Time to go to work.

Speaker 1 41:45

He should have the jam foresight. Good, good, good.

Speaker 2 41:53

It's always a good morning if you don't get drunk the night before. All right, lots of spring.

Speaker 1 42:10

I like that. Conscious or unconscious, but the important thing is it's only a dream, but the important thing is that you are. I hate goodbyes.

Speaker 4 42:46

Oh, and in case I don't see you, I'm back.

Speaker 3 42:59

I wonder who's playing guitar right now. Do you think it's Taylor Taylor, or Probably the other founding member? What's that cat's name? Pete, peter Holmstrom Could be Peter, probably Holmstrom.

Speaker 2 43:20

Zia plays a little bit of everything. She's making a Cortado. She's pouring Americano. She's making a latte. She's pouring Americano. Yeah, she's making a latte. She's doing it all, yeah.

Speaker 4 43:40

She's frothing she's frothing, she's funny looking or user little guy kind of funny looking, oh he's a little guy kind of funny looking.

Speaker 1 43:51

She's cute.

Speaker 3 44:04

Yeah, she's a realtor.

Speaker 2 44:09

Yeah, she's a realtor, she's a.

Speaker 3 44:10

DJ, she does it all. Wow, american Beauty Shout out.

Speaker 2 44:16

She's doing it.

Speaker 3 44:18

Yep.

Speaker 2 44:20

Yeah, I like that one.

Speaker 3 44:21

That was a great song.

Speaker 2 44:26

What are we on here, green?

Speaker 3 44:27

So what are we? Yeah, where are we at Whipping tree? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So here you can hear. You can totally hear it. Breathe by Pink Floyd, play it. Breathe by Pink Floyd, play it. We'll do a fade in fade out here, here's Pink Floyd. Okay, now we're going to go back now, yeah.

Speaker 4 45:19

Yeah, you can hear it. So we do that one more time.

Speaker 3 45:21

This is very Pink Floyd-y. Yeah, go ahead, keep it up. Keep the right one up here. Yeah, okay, we're back to james warhol's now. All right, shout out to tim, okay doing it.

Speaker 2 45:42

I saw you do it before, so I know how to do it yeah, you got it there's simple lines intertwining.

Speaker 3 45:52

It's very lovely. What do you call this?

Speaker 1 45:59

well, this piece is called lick my love pump.

Speaker 4 46:06

It's queer.

Speaker 2 46:09

Just glad to fall in love again, my dear. It's queer.

Speaker 3 46:15

I know low and I know fit, I feel. I'm not enough to handle this time he's not ready for a relationship, maybe, yeah, yes, he's a little baby he's a baby yeah, but seriously, this is for somebody who's like, yeah, not in a kid headspace, but Thankfully that's not me, at least right now.

Speaker 4 46:58

Yeah.

Speaker 2 47:02

Maybe just an ethereal headspace. Yeah, contemplating distance intrapersonal relationships inner sphere, outer sphere.

Musical Analysis and Commentary

Speaker 3 47:18

Venn diagrams what the fuck is he talking about? I like Venn diagrams. I mean. You pulled that out of your ass. It was good you were going towards a. What the fuck is he talking about moment?

Speaker 1 47:36

how much more black could this be? And the answer is none. None more black.

Speaker 3 47:41

I don't know what I'd call a whipping tree Time to get creepy Okay that was actually a pretty good song.

Speaker 2 48:04

Yeah, zia Zia really came out on that one, the keys song. Yeah, zia Zia really came out on that one, the keys. Yeah, yeah, all right, we got green Green, yeah, green you're not too far between either.

Speaker 1 48:21

Yes, mrs Crane, you're not too far between You're not too far between, you're not too far between. You're not too far between. You're not too far between. You're not too far between. Yes, mrs Crane, you and me Are only believing what?

Speaker 4 48:51

you want to hear.

Speaker 1 48:54

I guess it's because I'm greener than green.

Speaker 3 49:02

Mrs Crane, I'm looking at you.

Speaker 1 49:06

You're green, so you can hide. I don't blame you, you're Crane. You're green, so you can hide. I don't blame you, you're a tramp. Oh, that was a good one.

Speaker 2 49:21

Greener than green. You were dressed a little nice. These lyrics are hitting Bill Murray's caddyshack. So good, shut me down quite sexually. What, yeah?

Speaker 3 49:39

well, mrs crane didn't she was mature she, she ignored it I've seen and it shut me down, damn.

Speaker 4 50:00

It's kind of hitting it on the nose, it's like a greenhorn.

Speaker 2 50:03

Yeah.

Speaker 4 50:06

This is great.

Speaker 1 50:12

I'm looking at you. You are green, so you can hide.

Speaker 2 50:23

Green because I'm green, I don't blame you.

Speaker 1 50:27

You're a tramp. Ooh, that was a good one.

Speaker 3 50:40

It's very psychedelic.

Speaker 1 50:44

But the important thing is that you are, that's baby making music that's baby-making music, that's what that is. Only because.

Speaker 3 51:17

I'm greener than green. All right, that was good. It was all right it was. This is called Cool, as Kim Deal Shout out to the Pixies fans. They're really funny. I have no sense of humor at all. That was Kim Deal.

Speaker 2 51:38

That's Kim Deal. She's cool, hey, kim.

Speaker 3 51:43

You influenced Nirvana.

Speaker 2 51:47

Everybody thinks Kim is cool.

Speaker 3 51:49

Take pride, Beth. I think she's cool.

Speaker 2 51:54

I hope so. I've never hung out with her, but yeah, I'd rather be cool than smart.

Speaker 3 52:04

Fair, okay, I just want a girl as cool as can be. There's that raw guy Stone Rose, you see.

Speaker 2 52:45

What are the hits on this?

Speaker 3 52:47

I don't think we established any. I don't think there are. I mean, they reached on this album. They had some singles that they released but they never reached a hit status Like Not If You're the Last Chunky on Earth and Every Day Should Be a Holiday were singles and Boys.

Speaker 2 53:03

Better was a single.

Speaker 3 53:03

Okay.

Speaker 4 53:04

Okay.

Speaker 3 53:07

I mean, those are the good songs on this album. The question is are we gonna consider them hits?

Speaker 2 53:17

I mean I like some of the other ones.

Speaker 3 53:18

Yeah, I think do you want me to leave them out of my ranking?

Speaker 2 53:25

no, yeah, just all this. This whole album is a bunch of non-hits, really, no, no just All this, this whole album is a bunch of non-hits really.

Speaker 1 53:37

Yeah, that's what I think In a certain it was the album after this where they got more mainstream. Oh, those numbers are right right, bleeding, bleeding.

Speaker 3 53:56

These are released by Capitol Records. I just want to know it's good, it's good, it's good, it's good. Okay, that was kind of charming. Yeah, they all are.

Speaker 2 54:27

yeah, that was a charming one.

Speaker 3 54:30

Yeah, that's the way to put it. So this is we're going to go to the blasphemous side. The song is called Hard On For Jesus, wow, wow, dear tiny Jesus.

Speaker 4 54:48

Dear tiny Jesus your golden fleece diapers with your tiny little fat balled-up fist.

Speaker 1 54:53

He was a man. He had a beard.

Speaker 4 55:00

We hope that you can use your baby Jesus powers to heal him. Yeah.

Speaker 2 55:33

This is their version of Christian rock.

Speaker 4 55:46

Yeah.

Speaker 2 55:47

I don't know. It's not bad, it's not terrible, it's tolerable.

Speaker 3 55:58

Yeah, it's.

Speaker 4 55:59

It's not as if he's just as a ninja fighting off evil samurai.

Speaker 2 56:05

It's something yeah Zia, with the little lyric, you know little melody, the key in the background.

Speaker 3 56:16

The tempo, the pace. It's escalating, so it's increasing, it's getting faster and faster.

Speaker 2 56:24

It's lean and mean it's out of control.

Speaker 3 56:26

It's like Mrs Crane.

Speaker 2 56:30

You gotta have faith.

Speaker 4 56:34

Yeah.

Speaker 3 56:45

I think of Jesus, like with John Eagle's wings and singing lead vocals for Leonard Skinner with like an angel band. I love that line an angel band, leonard Skinner.

Speaker 2 57:05

Well, this band is a bunch of angels. They've never done anything, anything wrong. No, they're not sinners. They're not sinners here.

Speaker 4 57:19

No, I like the Christmas Jesus best and I'm saying grace.

Speaker 3 57:39

They do like a lot of repetitive, like yeah, I love you.

Speaker 2 57:42

I love you, yeah, it's very repetitive and trancy, like yeah, yeah, whoa Zia is getting it right now. Yeah, this might bump, this might buy this. Imagine seeing this live. I mean, this is like this is awesome.

Speaker 3 58:07

Yeah, this is like Brian Eno kind of stuff, right, exactly, tim is writing notes right now. Yeah, this is he's gathering his talking points. This is yeah. Yeah, tim has some thoughts about this. I do too. It was so intense, you know. Oh gosh, okay. Now this is the International Airport you want to. This one creeps you out, right?

Speaker 2 59:10

This is Pete International Airport, yeah.

Speaker 3 59:11

Pete International.

Speaker 2 59:12

Airport. We can just skip a couple of seconds, we can try. Okay, it gets sort of ambient. Okay, they do something here. They do a sound experiment here.

Speaker 3 59:35

Oh yeah, a lot of the keyboard a lot of the synths.

Speaker 2 59:42

I mean I'm all for this song, Really.

Speaker 3 59:51

I didn't really realize how important Zia is to the sound.

Speaker 2 59:56

Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 59:57

That's uh. I mean, the guitar playing is great and the drummer's keeping time, they're all. Okay, musicians. I mean the guitar playing is great and the drummer's keeping time, they're all okay, musicians.

Speaker 2 1:00:11

I mean it's the composure and the style that they put on it that is really and the image I suppose.

Speaker 3 1:00:21

Yeah, like the crafting of the songs.

Speaker 4 1:00:23

They craft it.

Speaker 3 1:00:24

Yeah, that's good how you doing man. Do you need an adult, Are you?

Speaker 2 1:00:41

good, this is like a chaperone, yeah, I mean, yeah, a shaman on this one. Yeah, papa Chris is here.

Speaker 3 1:00:48

Yeah, the shaman on this one. Yeah, papa Chris is here, man, don't worry about it, that's okay.

Speaker 2 1:01:09

This is some Brian Eno shit right here. Oh yeah, it's starting to grow on me again, mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 1:01:21

Oh, this, yeah, so now you're digging it. I was getting the sense that you were not liking this.

Speaker 2 1:01:37

At the end it crescendos to a.

Speaker 1 1:01:49

I'm not afraid anymore. Why are you going to the airport Flying?

Speaker 3 1:02:17

somewhere Shout out to Lloyd Christmas.

Speaker 2 1:02:25

Oh, we're flying here. Just realized that all that shit is fucking bullshit.

Speaker 3 1:02:36

Acknowledge.

Speaker 1 1:02:39

Just acknowledge that all that shit is fucking bullshit.

Speaker 3 1:02:44

That kind of like lays. Well, it does actually All right that kind of like waves.

Speaker 2 1:02:46

well it does actually Alright, this part where the keys get a little bit, a little whirly at the end it's sort of becomes disconcerting a little bit.

Speaker 3 1:03:00

Yeah, it's taking a turn, isn't?

Speaker 2 1:03:04

it. This is like we're not in Kansas anymore.

Speaker 3 1:03:07

Yeah, and like winter is coming, it's like a horror movie.

Speaker 4 1:03:31

I am the power of revelation, Darling light of my life.

Speaker 3 1:03:35

We got caught up in the crosshairs there. That was good.

Speaker 4 1:03:41

I'm not going to hurt you.

Speaker 1 1:03:46

It's only a dream.

Speaker 3 1:03:50

Back to Jack.

Speaker 2 1:03:50

You didn't let me finish my sentence, jack has he ever told you about his friend Frank?

Speaker 3 1:04:09

ooh, wow, okay, that was the end of pete international airport. This is the creep out. This is the last song time to get creepy, shout out to brian griffin.

Speaker 4 1:04:26

Ryan Griffin Wow, wow, wow.

Speaker 2 1:04:31

You don't know the Willamette River topography, do you Well?

Speaker 3 1:04:38

Are you still on the Hawthorne Bridge Little?

Speaker 2 1:04:42

Portlandia foray, still on the Hawthorne Bridge. Where is he? Where's that brunch spot?

Speaker 3 1:04:48

Where's that? The guy's like kayaking to brunch. He's like on the Willamette. He's like plugging the city to other kayakers coming by.

Speaker 2 1:04:57

He doesn't know. He's lost in his own city. None more black. Where am I? Rock and roll, it's rock and roll, right, rock and roll's rock and roll, right rock and roll. What a great mayor shout out to Gavin. He's kind of like that bar hopping on a kayak or the city boat city politics is the worst, it's just.

Speaker 1 1:05:41

I ran out of ideas. Yeah, it was Andy Warhol. Good drama, great look. Good drama, yeah.

Speaker 3 1:05:47

Sounds like Joe Walsh right.

Speaker 2 1:05:49

Yeah.

Speaker 3 1:06:00

This is like the lead up to Just a Minute.

Speaker 2 1:06:13

What.

Speaker 3 1:06:13

Wait, just a minute.

Speaker 4 1:06:15

We can clip this yeah.

Speaker 2 1:06:17

It's like Phoebe's getting out of there. Wait just a minute, wait just a minute. Wait just a minute. Wait just a minute, wait just a minute.

Speaker 3 1:06:32

Does anybody fucking knock anymore?

Speaker 2 1:06:36

Is that you? Yeah, there you go. You have like another. That's perfect. Yeah, da-da-da, da-da-da-da-da-da-da, time to get creepy, creep, creep, creepy. Did this song come out before the creep? Radiohead's Creep? Yes, by two years. This came out, yeah, a couple years. The creep, yeah, well, no, because.

Speaker 3 1:07:04

No, Creep came out in 94. 94?. Yeah, Pablo Honey was, so this came out after actually by several years, and Creep was a big hit. But they're not trying to hide from layering their sound over other people's sounds.

Speaker 2 1:07:27

They have some ideas. Yeah, left.

Speaker 3 1:07:27

Well, I mean they're just doing what we do. They have some ideas left? Well, I mean they're just doing what we do. Mix and match, plug and chug yeah.

Speaker 1 1:07:57

Just saying let it out, give it some air. Man Play with it.

Speaker 2 1:08:01

We need more solos here. Yeah, more noodling.

Speaker 3 1:08:11

That was creepy, I don't know. I'm Jack Nicholson, stay away.

Speaker 4 1:08:20

Stay away from that clip, stay away.

Speaker 1 1:08:24

Okay, are you sure? Because I mean, how do you know?

Speaker 2 1:08:34

This is nine minutes. This is another.

Speaker 3 1:08:41

I mean if you want to, you can. You can finish the cycle. Let's do the final half With this in the background.

Speaker 2 1:08:51

Yeah, alright, yeah.

Speaker 3 1:08:53

Alright, yeah, let's do it. Let's, let's take this down. Let's take this down About 11 Okay.

Speaker 2 1:09:03

Yeah so what's your?

Speaker 3 1:09:04

Are you ready?

Speaker 2 1:09:04

to.

Speaker 3 1:09:05

Give your number three. Oh, those numbers Are right. Alright, believe me. Okay, we're going for. What's your? Are you ready to give your number three? Oh, those numbers are right all right, believe me.

Speaker 2 1:09:09

Okay, we're going for.

Speaker 3 1:09:12

What's your number three?

Speaker 2 1:09:13

Surprisingly Mm-hmm. Oh man, you know this is tough, this is really tough, but I Honorable mention to Pete International Airport. Then Wow, and Green and Coolest, kim Deal. They didn't quite make the cut Because there's other good songs on here, but I did really like the Brian Eno shit they were doing with track number 13.

Speaker 3 1:09:44

Well, that's Pete International Airport. You're talking about 12? Pete?

Speaker 2 1:09:47

International Airport. Yeah, I like Peter. You're talking about 12? Peter International Airport. Yeah, I like it. Oh, is that number?

Speaker 3 1:09:51

No, number three is going to be hard on for Jesus.

Speaker 2 1:09:53

Yeah, okay, I thought you might do that Because the keys and the experimental stuff that they're incorporating into the song, that really solidifies the uh. That in my, my top three. What's your three?

Speaker 3 1:10:13

Interesting Um.

Speaker 2 1:10:20

I'm going to say going deep, you doing deep, cut here.

Speaker 3 1:10:24

Uh, not if you were the last junkie on nice is my number three. Oh, wow, yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm.

Speaker 4 1:10:26

I'm listing all these as non hits and um I uh not if you were the last junkie on nice this is my number three.

Album Song Analysis and Discussion

Speaker 3 1:10:28

Oh wow, yeah, I mean I'm, I'm listing all these as non-hits and um, I, I just I thought the words were super cool, like the. It was like poetic in a way. There's a lot of. I like the rhyming yeah, the rhyming was good yeah it, just it connected with me, so that's gonna be my number three, okay.

Speaker 2 1:10:46

I'm going with, every Day Should Be a Holiday, because I truly believe that and I like the message and in an album that sort of ebbs and flows from downers to uppers, that one really is an upper for me and it's got a good stone roses, new wave, oh, approach that I like.

Speaker 3 1:11:12

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I liked it too. Um, that's not my number two. I'm going to say, uh, wow, you know, I really did kind of like um boys. But I think, I think, I think I you know, the whipping tree was kind of cool, I'm gonna go in that direction yeah, fair

Speaker 3 1:11:34

it was um brought it down a little bit, yeah, it brought it down, and it just seemed a little bit more human you know, like everything else, there was a lot of songs that seemed really kind of like, kind of like shallow. I mean, the computer stuff was really cool, or like the electronic additives. Zio was really incredible, but I mean Whipping Tree had all that Plus just like more of a real feel for my taste, so I would go with that interesting.

Speaker 2 1:12:10

Yeah, well, again, you know this is difficult because any other given day but um, I'm gonna go be in had a good concert a feel to it like a good opening, a show opener one, and, uh, just a good number a boy's better amazing uh-huh. Um, not if I were the last junkie on earth. Great song, but they just didn't quite hit my top three yeah and I really did like this album as a whole yeah, I did too.

Speaker 3 1:12:44

Yeah, I mean a lot of these songs, yeah, in and any given day, maybe some another one of them would strike my fancy and I would choose that over. You know my others too. So, okay, I mean that BBN was a great song and I, I I wanted to choose that, you know, as at least my three, but I had to go with those other two. They needed to have their due. But my number one like the best song on the album, I think is Every Day Should Be a Holiday.

Speaker 4 1:13:10

Nice.

Speaker 3 1:13:11

Because it kept a moment, it was like positive and it contrasted with everything else, kind of like Whipping Tree I want to go with some of the oddballs and that just seemed like more uplifting and had a more fun kind of a pace and it was uh, get your adrenaline.

Speaker 4 1:13:32

You're flying.

Speaker 3 1:13:34

Yeah, you're flying with that one, you're flying with the birds. Yeah, yeah, I liked stone roses. Uh aspect of it. Good harmony.

Speaker 2 1:13:41

Good yeah.

Speaker 3 1:13:42

It's a simple thing there, right on.

Speaker 2 1:13:44

Speaking with flying with the birds, we put our ribbon right on it.

Speaker 3 1:13:49

Yeah, yeah, what do we? I mean, let's have a like a little clip outro, Maybe. I'm like I'm thinking, can we do some Portlandia stuff? You? Know, let's maybe the yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 1 1:14:00

Thank you, put a bird on it. Putting a bird on this teapot, it it's a bird. I bet it's flying all over the beach. What a sad little tote bag. I know I'll put a bird on it. Did you see this bag before? I didn't. Now there's a bird, it's flying, it's free.

Speaker 2 1:14:16

It's a bird. It's a bird.

Speaker 3 1:14:19

Like a bird Like a bird, all right Later.