The Greatest Non Hits

Mazzy Star: So Tonight That I Might See

β€’ Chris & Tim β€’ Season 3 β€’ Episode 36

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Ever found yourself captivated by the haunting melodies of Mazzy Star and wondered about the stories behind their iconic album "So Tonight That I Might See"? Join us as we reminisce about the enchanting duo Hope Sandoval and David Roback, tracing their journey from the vibrant Paisley Underground scene to the ethereal soundscapes they crafted with Mazzy Star. We're sharing personal anecdotes, including a special shoutout to Tim's trusty sidekick, Dottie, while unpacking the timeless charm of tracks like "Fade Into You" and uncovering the hidden gems that deserve more love.

Get ready to stroll down memory lane as we explore the melancholic beauty of Mazzy Star's music, weaving in lighthearted tales of 90s fashion mishaps and inspired songwriting sessions in local cafes. Our conversation sparkles with laughter and nostalgia as we pay homage to musical giants like Suzanne Vega and honor the legacy of band members David Roback and Kevin Mitchell. Amidst the whimsical banter, we'll reflect on Mazzy Star's distinct aesthetic and the dreamlike quality that has kept fans mesmerized for decades.

And if you thought "Fade Into You" was the only masterpiece on the album, prepare to be surprised. We dive into a spirited debate about our personal favorite tracks, where songs like "Bell's Ring," "Unreflected," and "She's My Baby" shine brightly. Discover how these tunes, with their rich textures and emotive layers, have captured our hearts all over again, making this album a delightful rediscovery and a perennial favorite. Join us for a celebration of music that transcends time and evokes the most vivid of imaginations.

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Speaker 1:

Hi, I'm Hope.

Speaker 2:

I'm David.

Speaker 1:

And we're from Mazzy Star and you're watching 120 Minutes on MTV.

Speaker 3:

All right, thank you for listening to Greatest Non-Hits. I'm Chris and playing the song Fade Into you from the so Tonight that I Might See album from Mazzy Star is my co-host, tim, and we want to thank you for listening. Subject matter of today's episode is that album released September 27th in 1993 in the UK and then October 5th 1993 here in the United States. This is the band Mazzy Star, which is primarily made up of two musicians Hope Sandoval, the vocalist she plays harmonica, guitar, tambourine, stuff like that and then David Roback, who is the guitar player, piano, keyboard, production, album design. And there's some additional personnel Keith Mitchell on drums, jason Yates on bass, lillian Cooper on strings, dale Everingham as a technical assistant. So it's an album. It's got 10 tracks. It's kind of sullen, it's kind of psychedelic. It's a part of a movement that was happening in LA in the early 80s called Paisley Underground. It's that kind of music you know, kind of trance, trancy. I want to say I don't know, but the band was formed really from David Roback.

Speaker 3:

He started off I mean he was an artist you know, went to UCAL Berkeley at one point in time, traveled to New York early on in the 80s, disillusioned, came back to LA, got caught up in that Paisley Underground, was in some bands, namely Rain Parade. Namely Rain Parade, he was sort of like a musical partner with Kendra Smith, who later on left. They were in a band called Opal. She left Opal and joined Jesus and Mary Chain and that's when Sandoval came into the picture. They sort of hit it off. I think that they start off. They start off with uh, under another name, I don't know, I can't remember the, the text of it, but uh. They later reformed because they didn't like the music that that was. And so they they reformed and created a mazzy star and brought in those other musicians and wrote up uh, their their first album, and which did pretty well. That was back in 1990. And then from there they made their sophomore album, so Tonight that I Might See them, which is what we're going to listen to, and it's got some great tracks. The song Fade Into you is what Tim's playing now. That's been their biggest hit really of all time and that's the very first song on this album.

Speaker 3:

So're gonna listen to all the songs. We're gonna rank them, uh, the top three non-hits, uh the ones that never, like, really made the cut, and on this album it's fade into you. I think five string serenade was released as a single and it's a great song. Um, I think it's to be up for debate as to whether or not we're going to put it into our top three. I think I will, since both Tim and I, I mean, we're familiar with this album. I never really listened to it that much, but you know, because I didn't really dig it. But I'll tell you what it's pretty deep and the more you listen to it, the more it grows on you.

Speaker 3:

And really great, great writers. I think David was writing a lot of the music and he praised Hope for her lyrical prowess. She writes a lot of the lyrics on this one. So it's a really good, really good album. Again, you know, of course, you know we're going to do our thing. We're going to get silly later on, kind of cut it up a little bit, maybe put in some stupid sound clips. You know, that's how we do our thing, so to speak. We've got Tim's dog here today, dottie. Shout out to Dottie. She's hanging around the table here.

Speaker 3:

She's a good girl, so you know, she's going to listen, you're going to listen, we're going to have a great time. And what else can we say? Let's dig into. Let's say, fade into, use the Hit and everything else is up for voting. Some tragedy. I think 2020 is when Robert Sandoval I'm sorry, david Sandoval passed away from cancer, sadly, they were originally also on I can't remember what record label it was for their first album, but between their first and second albums, uh, the first album, uh, company folded. They were later signed by capital records and that's and david roback is the one who produced this as well, so he performs on it. He, he self-produced it. Um, the genre dream pop, I guess it's you know, neo-psychedelia um, apparently back in the day, in his New York years, I guess that's when he sort of had aspirations of being a painter, that kind of artist, I think he kind of got transfixed on the punk scene and had every intention of being a punk rocker.

Speaker 3:

I think whenever he did it, it it sounded more like what we're about to hear, which is a little bit more technical, a little bit more spacey, ethereal, psychedelic, if you will, more so than punk and this kind of works for them. So I think what we're going to listen to is everything coming together and I would say, like this is one of their best albums, from from my, from my perspective. Um, it got good reviews too. Um, you know, back in the day, um, I mean, some were better, some interviews were better than others. I'm looking at Wikipedia. I guess the Village Voice called it a dud, but yeah, I agree. Ned Raggett from AllMusic said that.

Speaker 3:

So Tonight, that I May See, remains the group's undisputed high point, mixing in plenty of variety among its tracks without losing sight of what's made the group so special to begin with. So I, I'm, I'm on board with that. I think it's really good and I'm digging the uh, digging Tim's a little solo here. We'll let him wrap up. He's going to come join us, he's going to give it his twist and, uh, then we're going to see what this crop brings. So I think it, and it peaked, I think, at number three. At one point in time it went platinum in the united states. They sold a hundred thousand copies in uk, so more far and away. And also they they've been in a lot of different movies. Fade Into you is, I think, over 30 movies or stuff like that. We'll get into that later, but for now we're going to bring Tim into the fold. The guy behind the guy behind the guy. How's it going? Good, how are you doing?

Speaker 2:

Good, put a little added. Seventh, added, fifth in there. Good, how are you doing? Good, you know. All right, put a little added. Seventh, added, fifth in there. Make a little more happy, a little more happy of a song.

Speaker 3:

That's true. Yeah, you want to spice it up and I did. I heard that I should have. It was very barbershop for such a sullen kind of a song. That was sort of like the happy version. That was the lighthearted version. So I think, you pulled it off. That's good.

Speaker 2:

A little fade. Got my faded, tattered clothes here that I've been wearing since the 90s for this Mazzy Star album.

Speaker 3:

Here let's go yeah you're wearing like a mesh or a faux mesh sweater.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Very, nineties Very.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Plain and basic basic colors You've got. It's a polyester. So nineties, your haircut though.

Speaker 3:

Isn't much of a fade. I've got more of a fade, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So I need to go back, but yeah, you've, you've got it.

Speaker 3:

The barbershop rounded. Yeah, the barbershop. Yeah, exactly any. Any last thoughts? I mean any any well any anecdotes. I mean you, you've.

Speaker 2:

I mean maize you're a little red hope. Hope is uh, you know, probably uh just a crush. You know, probably uh just a crush. You know, male crush. Everybody loved hope.

Speaker 3:

Really You're digging her, okay.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean she's cute yeah. She's like the pre, she's like called Pouty the the late Lana Del Rey um of of of the nineties really.

Speaker 3:

I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah Of the 90s, really yeah, sure, I don't know. Yeah, this album, I'm going in cold. I'm really not. I know the hits. I like what I've listened to so far.

Speaker 3:

Oh, you're cold on this.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I've heard Five String Serenade and Fade Into you.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

But the rest of them. I'm kind of going in cold too, like the last three or four so she's a star sorry, I guess a star is born. Here we go, we're getting into it. All right, let's queue it up.

Speaker 2:

You ready to go?

Speaker 3:

she's a star okay, that's, that's so. Wait, what do we do? Here we go, fade into you the one hit. Just subtle lines intertwined, very lick my love pump-ish kind of writing. Okay.

Speaker 1:

Subtle, dreamy. Look to you To see the truth. You live your life. You go where Shadows.

Speaker 3:

I think she's David Roback. They were kind of a thing, weren't they, I guess.

Speaker 2:

I mean, you're making Music like this.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, they apparently don't need to speak Cause they're so kind of thing, weren't they? I guess, when you're making music like this?

Speaker 4:

they apparently don't need to speak because they're so yeah. Didn't we read somewhere too, that she writes the lyrics.

Speaker 3:

She goes into, like coffee shops and cafes and listens to other people's conversations to get ideas. Yeah, and she embellishes them, she Tom Diners. It Is that how you Tom Diner?

Speaker 2:

Tom Diner, what's Suzanne Vega? Oh, okay, oh, of course, but not like. Same standard, different yeah.

Speaker 3:

Shout out to her. Suzanne Vega. Shout out to Susanna Hoffs. I think she and Roback were in a band before this ever happened.

Speaker 2:

Oh, such a right. Anyhow, if you think that I'm going to sit around and wait for you.

Speaker 4:

You can forget it.

Speaker 2:

We broke up two months ago. Yeah, poor Linda.

Speaker 3:

Are you mental?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, are you crying Sorry, are you crying Am?

Speaker 3:

I crying no, I'm not crying. It's just so emotional. Yeah, this is sad.

Speaker 1:

This is sad. It can't be that hard. Let's go home.

Speaker 4:

Let's go home, you put your hands into your head. Just go home. Just go home. That's your home. Are you too good for your home? Answer me Cover your heart Strange.

Speaker 2:

I need it out of you.

Speaker 3:

She's keeping good time, tamarind.

Speaker 2:

Good drummer.

Speaker 3:

Great look, good drummer. Great look, yeah, kevin Mitchell. He died too 2017. Sorry to laugh. Yeah, that wasn't Chris, that was Tamarind. I set that up, so died too 2017. Sorry to laugh, yeah, that's. That's. That wasn't Chris, that was Tim.

Speaker 2:

Set that up so horribly?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that was partly. That was partly.

Speaker 1:

What do you?

Speaker 3:

think I was a little too mad or backed on that, a little too excited about it. I was excited to drop the knowledge.

Speaker 2:

That was right when referencing, I know.

Speaker 3:

One of these days I'll go pro at this.

Speaker 2:

Once more into the breach, dear friends, once more into the breach.

Speaker 1:

Dear friends, I think it's strange.

Speaker 2:

you know it's like Hawaiian, it is a little Hawaiian.

Speaker 1:

I think it's strange, you know.

Speaker 2:

Let's see if we have a.

Speaker 3:

A little rain there. Yeah, some aggressive rain. Rain seems to be a theme throughout this and their career, for that matter. They had a rain parade. It's starting to become clear. Rain is on this song. It's starting to become clear. Rain is on this song Sounds like a Mr Santa Rainy Night. So this is called Bell's Ring, okay.

Speaker 4:

Alright.

Speaker 1:

That's it.

Speaker 3:

Alright, we're getting somewhere. I'm digging the lyrics.

Speaker 2:

Hold me down by the water.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, now it's getting dark.

Speaker 2:

I hope this is part of the embellishment, Trying to get your bell rung, Hold held, dive down by the water.

Speaker 1:

I can't believe it. Look out to see the witness in the sky. Nobody's out to write a story. Nobody wants to know your reason why.

Speaker 4:

They walked on down the hall. Your arms are torn in one hand Briefcase to. Mary Look on.

Speaker 1:

Let God be free.

Speaker 2:

Let God be free but only if you believe I don't even know what she's saying half the time. Well, I mean, yeah, we have this. It's kind of mumbly.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I mean, I think this is good, like you're really wasted or something. You just had a bad night. Yeah, you just broke. I think this is good, like you're really wasted or something. You just had a bad night. Yeah, you just broke up with your boyfriend, or whatever. It's like one in the morning you plop down to your bed and you're all tired.

Speaker 4:

The room is kind of spinning and you're sort of listening to this Nude music.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, are you having thoughts, man?

Speaker 2:

I mean it's angsty, it's angsty.

Speaker 3:

I kind of like how they're changing this up a little bit. It's just unfolding too slow for me.

Speaker 2:

On this listen he's letting the guitar shred a little bit. Yeah, work, it work it babyourines going yeah. Yeah, Hope is doing all that, you going to do something about your sideburns? Yeah.

Speaker 3:

All right.

Speaker 4:

So, that was Bell's.

Speaker 3:

Ring okay.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

This is Berry of silence.

Speaker 4:

Briefcase to Mary.

Speaker 3:

Briefcase to Mary.

Speaker 1:

Swanson it walked on down the hall.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it does. It has that. This is the end beginning.

Speaker 2:

This one's definitely going to be a greatest nonhead right here. I just this one might be up there with some of our best deep dives. This one, I think so yeah.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, this is some of our best deep dives, this one, I think so, yeah, yeah, this is good. I'm on your side, you in my heart, with a smile.

Speaker 1:

Oh, sweet Mary, Come inside for a while.

Speaker 3:

You're telling me there's a chance. Help me get a hold of you. Oh, I look in the night. This is a song that's like in between. Very erotic and like psycho, like crazy. We're sort of in that.

Speaker 2:

I'm starting to get scared a little bit. This is kind of like Brian Jonestown Massacre a little bit. That was what they're. We haven't done that one. We'll do that one soon, we should. I'll do that. Brian's Jonetown Massacre and the Dandy Warhols Two great names for bands.

Speaker 3:

Brian's Jotetown Massacre is awesome. I'm now angry that I never, was in a band with that.

Speaker 4:

Briefcase to Mary.

Speaker 2:

Briefcase to Mary.

Speaker 3:

Briefcase to Mary.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, we're in the dark with that man and it came to a door Look.

Speaker 3:

Mary, it's nice to hold faith Fade into Mary of silence. Look Mary.

Speaker 4:

Look, Mary. I know this may seem a little, but I've given it a lot of thought. You're the woman I've been waiting for my whole life.

Speaker 3:

I like it. It's good. I'm desperate, I know.

Speaker 2:

I just and I'm not ashamed to admit it, it's good, desperate, I know, I just and I'm not ashamed to admit it.

Speaker 4:

Please Let me finish. You're telling me there's a chance.

Speaker 3:

Sounds like. Is she like in a Starbucks writing right miss, like what's the deal? She's like overhearing a conversation and then she wrote a song around this, I think look, mary.

Speaker 4:

Briefcase to Mary.

Speaker 3:

What about Kendra Smith? Because this is. She was in the Jesus and Mary chain. I wonder if there's any thought behind Sweet Mary's Son. Yes, some crossover, oh nice.

Speaker 2:

Whoa, I love this, yeah, this.

Speaker 4:

Work it.

Speaker 3:

Work it, work it, baby, work it, work it, baby, work it, work it, own it.

Speaker 4:

Yes, you can handle this. First is here someone Once more into the breach. Dear friends, Listen to that sustain.

Speaker 2:

This is epic. Fuck, yeah, this is yeah. This is An area of silence.

Speaker 3:

I am, I am aroused. What the hell man, what's going on? Oh, I just got to hear that one more time. What the hell man, what's going on? Oh, I just got to hear that one more time. All right we'll skip ahead a little bit. It just goes on sweet mirror silence.

Speaker 1:

Are you mental Light of my life?

Speaker 4:

That's baby making, isn't it? That's what that is. Yes, that's baby making.

Speaker 3:

That's what that is. Yes, there is nothing more to be added to it. Alright, nah, we're just getting, we're getting weird, we're getting stupid shout out to Foghorn Leghorn. Shout out to theoghorn Leghorn.

Speaker 2:

Shout out to the tea drinkers, the runners, the walkers, the mutes. Yeah, oh yeah. You don't need to say anything to be cool. Yeah, we love the mutes. You don't need to say anything to be cool, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Whoa.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that you're now can be what I consider the past, okay.

Speaker 3:

This one is Five String Serenade. Is this going to be a hit? I don't know, because it was released as a single, but it sounds kind of vaguely familiar, I think.

Speaker 2:

I've heard this before, I've never heard it, but oh, besides Once before this.

Speaker 1:

But this is my five-string serenade Beneath the water of play, and while I'm playing for you, it could be raining that year trying to figure out what, what this five-string serenade?

Speaker 3:

is this just like a face value of a chord, or is it something more like subtle? Yeah, five fingers, yeah, serenade it's five fingers, something, no, something like that. Maybe that's code for that she was in a diner.

Speaker 2:

Somebody was talking about that.

Speaker 3:

She wrote it down exactly, so you know, I'm doing the five fingers serenade, right? Yes, miss. Can I have another iced tea please?

Speaker 1:

yeah, so you know that kind of thing, your serenade right?

Speaker 3:

Yes, miss can I have another iced tea please?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so you know that kind of thing.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so she listens to that, goes back home and then that's how we came back.

Speaker 1:

It is very beautiful.

Speaker 4:

Just take it easy, champ.

Speaker 3:

Okay, maybe I need to sit. The next couple plays out. Let Tim take over for you.

Speaker 1:

Not great kisser, but she had the biggest Adam's apple.

Speaker 2:

This is touching. It's beautiful, it's very touching.

Speaker 3:

Sorry, we're ruining it everybody.

Speaker 1:

Happy ring that he. It's very touching. Sorry we're ruining it everybody.

Speaker 3:

William Cooper on the strings, man, you're really.

Speaker 1:

Coopy.

Speaker 3:

Cooper-loop. Shout out to the Coopers out there In occupation and in surname.

Speaker 2:

Shout out to the Coopers out there In occupation and, in surname, shout out to the window, guys, the door guys.

Speaker 4:

Yes.

Speaker 3:

The roofers, ah, the doormen. I love the doormen.

Speaker 2:

The doorman, yeah, doorman.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and shout out to the dormants and the doorman yeah, and the Dormen, you're checking the shit out of those IDs. Check it. Yep.

Speaker 2:

Check it. Are you going to find love tonight?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it can't be that hard. I mean, you've been in love before. Well, just once With you.

Speaker 2:

Joey E she doesn't like you Awkward.

Speaker 1:

Tip to those doormen out there. Florida has a distinct. It might be raining that year.

Speaker 3:

Tip to those doormen out there. Florida has a distinct watermark, you know, can't miss it.

Speaker 1:

Is it rain? This is my five-string sermon.

Speaker 3:

Aw, I'm all for clapped.

Speaker 2:

Oh gosh.

Speaker 1:

Oh wait, just a minute.

Speaker 3:

All right, this one is called Blue Light. It's kind of a country western.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, a little bit. It's got that feel to it, a little bit of Chris Isaac going on here. Oh yeah, shout out Wicked Game. Yes, this whole album is Wicked Game. Okay, this whole album is like Wicked Game.

Speaker 3:

It really is. This is good yeah.

Speaker 1:

There's a blue light in my restaurant room.

Speaker 3:

There's a blue light. He's got big eyes, big eyes.

Speaker 1:

It's freaky. There's a blue light, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

I wanna see it Shine. You're my boy Blue.

Speaker 3:

There you go. You're my boy, light of my life.

Speaker 1:

Sails by my window.

Speaker 3:

Old wooden ship. Thank you, ron Burgundy. Were you around when Kmart was popular? Yeah, remember that 87 Blue Light special. That's what I think about Blue Light special. I just can't get past the blue light. It's not their fault, it's mine, but I mean, if there's a not, this is a beautiful song, just got an awesome voice. It's all throaty and breathy and hot, super hot super old wooden ship.

Speaker 4:

Super hot, super hot.

Speaker 1:

Old wooden ship.

Speaker 2:

You know who really loves this album.

Speaker 1:

Surfers Say bye.

Speaker 3:

Anybody else who does like, like Bengals fans maybe, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Hotel owners, hotel innkeepers.

Speaker 1:

Light of my life.

Speaker 3:

Jack Torrance's.

Speaker 4:

Oh God, Let me say something. Let me say something.

Speaker 3:

What it's kind of like funeral music.

Speaker 4:

It's like that little organ in the background.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the organ's very good. I'm digging that this could be up there, my top three.

Speaker 3:

Really. Oh okay, there's still some good songs ahead too. We've heard A couple of others that were the waves are beating her.

Speaker 2:

She's getting beat down by the waves. I think I hear them Waves crashing me back.

Speaker 1:

Well, I'll tell you still. I did battle some humongous waves.

Speaker 2:

Crash my wheel bye. Hope you have a cool buzz out there.

Speaker 3:

All I need are some tasty waves and some cool buds. I'm fine, this must be. That's baby making music. That's what that is. Yeah, that's Roback. He's playing. He's a good guitar player.

Speaker 2:

I mean, yeah, he's a sensitive Minimal, yeah, minimalist, minimalist, which is yeah for a minimalist it's, it's good notes.

Speaker 3:

He's filling the space with that's. That's the thing is. This is the simplicity of all this yeah so this is a less is more, yeah example of somebody doing it right.

Speaker 2:

Oh, is this the out?

Speaker 3:

So this is called she's my Baby Mom. Mom, this is Zeppelin-y Mama Mom.

Speaker 1:

Mommy, mommy.

Speaker 4:

Dear Lord, baby Jesus.

Speaker 3:

I'm hearing like smashing pumpkins in this a little bit. Ron Weier, baby Jesus. I'm hearing like Smashing Pumpkins in this a little bit.

Speaker 2:

Ron Weyer Stomp Led Zeppelin yeah that.

Speaker 3:

Yes, work it, ron, you're a stomp.

Speaker 1:

She's my baby. She belongs to me, but yesterday she walked home on the road.

Speaker 2:

Sting goes out there.

Speaker 1:

Everybody else looks at my baby them. They want to know where I'm at the baby's feeling bad.

Speaker 3:

Roback's a really impressive guy because he's producing these tunes. Yeah, he's a good use of time and space and the reverb and the echo.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Time is timeless. This is a timeless.

Speaker 4:

I think I saw my baby.

Speaker 1:

That's right, that's right. See you Yesterday, another day.

Speaker 2:

Another day, baby.

Speaker 1:

Saw your baby walking Homeward. Baby baby, Baby, baby.

Speaker 4:

Baby, baby, Baby baby.

Speaker 2:

Baby baby, baby, baby.

Speaker 1:

I'm feeling sorry, Maybe baby.

Speaker 2:

What? What is she saying? All right, this one's skyrocketing at the top. Oh my God, the discordance of the solo is.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, this one is very spiritual, Easy baby.

Speaker 1:

You don't want to get hooked on this stuff.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, thanks for cutting man.

Speaker 1:

This is starting to get too heavy for me.

Speaker 4:

Oh, never, never, let's go home.

Speaker 2:

Once more into the beach.

Speaker 1:

It's another.

Speaker 3:

Yeah they're mixing the doors with Zeppelin, with Zaplin. There is nothing more to be added to it. Yeah, there's a row back with the guitar. That was all Tim, with the sound clips. Shout out to Tim, mentioning that mostly because I don't want to take credit for it.

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 3:

I'm just teasing. No, you did a good job, that was good. It's a good song too. That was pretty heavy. That's right. This one's called Unreflected. This is like a different mood now More.

Speaker 2:

Raga, the sun's coming up. This is earthy. The vegetables are sprouting, yeah.

Speaker 3:

The hippies are dancing. This is somewhere between hippie and yacht rock, or something I don't know.

Speaker 2:

They're dancing the compost into the ground.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and they're like harvesting maize, maizey, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Mazzy, mazzy.

Speaker 3:

You can say Mazzy, mazzy. It just doesn't seem like anybody cares. Shimano, yeah, shimano, shimano, they said they called it Mazzy stuff. We can say Mazzy, then what the fuck?

Speaker 1:

Once it's last fortune is in the soul, the unreflected feeling of the shore and fine snow, oh no, a laugh that cuts through An hour's in the past. Now, this is deep In our memories. We don't have much to say. We don't have much to say. We don't have much to say we don't have much Follow anybody. Is that what you do? Maybe it's the transplants, maybe transplants, maybe transplants, maybe transplants, maybe transplants, maybe transplants, maybe transplants, maybe transplants, maybe transplants, maybe transplants, maybe transplants, maybe transplants, maybe transplants, maybe transplants, maybe transplants.

Speaker 3:

Maybe transplants Maybe transplants.

Speaker 1:

Now we know what we'll be in the past.

Speaker 3:

This is a coffee shop thing too, this one.

Speaker 1:

Another story? Yeah, we need to Song facts.

Speaker 3:

Another life, that's left.

Speaker 1:

Another life that's left.

Speaker 3:

Another life Death's left, yeah people don't write songs like this anymore.

Speaker 2:

It's good. I like the Maracas.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that is good.

Speaker 2:

Slower pace, simpler song.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, really good. So this next one is going to be called Wasted. It's going to be boozy.

Speaker 2:

You can feel it. I think Ron White likes this one.

Speaker 4:

I was drunk in a bar, they threw me into public. I don't want to be drunk in a bar. They threw me into public. I don't want to be drunk in public. I want to be drunk in a goddamn bar, which is perfectly legal.

Speaker 3:

Arrest them. After I stuck my hands into your ground and pulled out, I guess she was linked at one point in time to William Reed, the guitarist of Jesus and Mary Chain, and he later told Goldmine I was in love with hope, but it was the unhappiest time of my life. Yeah, I can see that I felt like I've been Wasted all day long.

Speaker 4:

All day long. Come on over here. Let's have a look at you After I've bent my head. Is this a boy?

Speaker 1:

To my knees and raised my hands up right above my head. I felt a little bit up, a little bit right.

Speaker 3:

This is a song that's probably good listening. When you're laying around kind of wasted.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's a good cleaning song, it's a good running song. Say away.

Speaker 4:

Darling, light, light light. I'm not going to hurt you.

Speaker 3:

You didn't let me finish my sentence. Oh, you can't play the whole thing, okay, oh.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, got to get out of the house.

Speaker 3:

Weight lifting song Could be all those things. I guess it's not as rigid as chest beating.

Speaker 2:

It's really wasted At your house by yourself. Rock and roll, yeah, walk on down the hall.

Speaker 4:

I've fallen and I can't get up A little play flirt, yeah, shout out.

Speaker 3:

Shout out to Nana.

Speaker 1:

A little light stone.

Speaker 2:

Stay away Jamming into life All the day long. All day long, we're always wasting on something. Yeah, Even if we're not drugged per se or drugging and poisoning ourselves yeah exactly. We're still wasted on our shitty job. I know I'm telling you Chemicals in the air, chemicals in the water. We're wasted on that. But, you know you've got to be resilient and we're going to get through this. Get some cilantro in your ass Not in your ass, but don't do a cilantro anime.

Speaker 3:

I know what you mean. The cilantro is a nice fresh herb that nourishes your body and provides unwasted to you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, unwastifies you.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, exactly, it detoxes you Heavy metals, it brings life into your body. It is life itself and it's going into you and it's contributing to the microbiome Of your insides.

Speaker 2:

Ginger, ginger, turmeric.

Speaker 4:

Turmeric yeah.

Speaker 2:

Of course, sesame seeds are good for you. Yeah, freaking walnuts.

Speaker 3:

Brazil nuts have plenty of selenium, I think I prefer Argentine, nuts, argentine, okay yeah. Uruguayan what.

Speaker 2:

Peruvian nuts. Uruguayan nuts.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's what she said. No, I'm not kidding, you're a gay nut. Yeah, shout out to the gay nuts out there.

Speaker 4:

Jam it in the light.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Okay, wasted Rock and roll. All right, I have.

Speaker 3:

Into Dust. Yeah, this sounds like Fleetwood Mac. This is a good song. Yeah, this sounds like Fleetwood Mac.

Speaker 4:

This is a good song. Yeah, you can't really dust for vomit. Oh, there's a flute in here.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, a koopa loop on the strings. Yeah, that sounds exactly like. Yeah, I'm talking about Fleetwood Mac. What's I'm blanking now? I'm sorry, what's her name from Fleetwood Mac? Stevie Nicks?

Speaker 1:

yeah, inside today beside me, beside me today, around, broken and torn, round and round, deeper and deeper, till your eyes Share Into Dark.

Speaker 3:

Like two Strangers Turning Into. I am not An angel dust dealer. Is this like a drug song, angel dust or something like that? No, I am not an angel dust dealer. Yeah like that. They don't do that, I mean at this time. Angel dust was like out of the. I guess it was like out of circulation.

Speaker 4:

You want to take your brain out of your head and wash it and scrub it and make it clean.

Speaker 3:

I think we both need to sit. The next couple plays out. No, no, keep, keep playing.

Speaker 1:

I could possibly be fading or have something more to gain. This is gonna be cold.

Speaker 4:

No, you're fast.

Speaker 1:

Your face.

Speaker 3:

It's like another Mr Han Hands, and feet, yeah, the hands.

Speaker 2:

This is Should be a modern day classic, honestly, I know. Yeah, it's up there.

Speaker 1:

It was you, breathless and torn. I could feel my eyes turning into dust and two strangers Turning into dust, turning into dust All right.

Speaker 3:

shout out to Mazzy Star. What a classic album.

Speaker 2:

I'm thinking I'm lining up my top three Just sit in the recording studio and come up with this stuff like instantly. It's so wild. Yeah, it's just like a really good partnership between her lyrics and his song crafting, and out of all the band combinations of Hope and David, this one was the big winner out of all of them, you know.

Speaker 3:

And to think are they still touring? I don't know, I don't know, it's very nice. We got like one more left, I think. I don't know, I'll go follow, I'll see. This is good. All right, it's very nice. We got like one more left I think that was Into Dust and then this last one, so Tonight that I Might See this, is it?

Speaker 4:

Oh yeah, it is. That's kind of good.

Speaker 3:

Sort of like Middle Eastern kind of a thing.

Speaker 2:

This does sound a lot like Brian's Jonestown Massacre. Okay, you gotta listen. Yeah, sound a lot like brian's jones town jones town massacre. Okay, you gotta listen, yeah. Oh, I hear some tasty waves, cool buzz and I'm fine yeah, shout out to Spicoli.

Speaker 1:

She's right-sided.

Speaker 3:

She's walking down the hall on this one, yeah well, it's a narration Kind of like.

Speaker 1:

This is the end, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Totally borrowing from the Doors, but it's still their own.

Speaker 4:

But I think they do it better than the.

Speaker 3:

Doors. I'm serious, I think they do it better than the Dwarves.

Speaker 4:

I'm serious, I'm not going to give you a ride.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to show you a ride.

Speaker 2:

Taste the wind.

Speaker 3:

Lock me Taste the wind.

Speaker 4:

A taste of wind.

Speaker 3:

The wind. Who lock me? Does the wind indeed like me?

Speaker 1:

It's kind of clever. If you look, I find the dark. Stop me now, I find me too hard. Let me hold you tight like rain sunshine over in the day. Rain sunshine.

Speaker 2:

Let me hold you tight like rain and sunshine over in the day. Rain sunshine.

Speaker 1:

Let me hold you tight and have you stand along.

Speaker 2:

Arms and legs.

Speaker 1:

I'm so close that I might see you crash.

Speaker 2:

The guitar yeah.

Speaker 3:

You're talking about the up and down, yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's like a siren call. She is like a siren, a modern day siren, like tempting boats to a rocky grave. David's guitar summons Poseidon.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that guitar is just screaming in the background.

Speaker 1:

There's like so many different layers going on. I don't really know what to focus on. I'm so tired.

Speaker 3:

You're not alone who got the lighter.

Speaker 4:

Wow man this is really good.

Speaker 2:

This is really good. Work it, work it, baby.

Speaker 3:

Work it All go back, like all the guitar workups.

Speaker 2:

I don't know song she plays in town, maybe in Houston she plays a rhythm.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that first album was she Hates Bright, bright. I just think a lot of these songs could have been hits. It's too bad. There was like one that just hit super big. It's a really great song. I don't think it's in the top three. Fade into you.

Speaker 2:

Would Fade Into you be in your top three if it weren't in there? I don't think so, no.

Speaker 3:

I can name three songs that I like better than that. Oh for sure. I mean, I could probably go like five or six.

Speaker 2:

Give it some air. Yeah, this is great, play with it. You know, yeah, it's, yeah, it'll end. Play with it. You know, yeah, it's uh, yeah, it'll, it'll end yeah in time.

Speaker 3:

It's just like yeah, this is this is there, this is the end, but I guess we can argue about that. Yeah, this is there, this is the end, but I guess we can argue about that.

Speaker 2:

I haven't done it earlier.

Speaker 3:

All right, yeah, mary of Silence could probably be. Yeah, that's probably good. This is the end, but that's like a part deux. It's midnight. Okay, nice little add in there. Okay, man. So what are you thinking? We got to go right into the top three.

Speaker 2:

Oh, man, man, oh man. I think this is hard because the way that song ended.

Speaker 4:

I want that almost in my top three.

Speaker 2:

I know, I mean we could have a top five here and I think if my top five I'm just going to do five she's my baby. Uh, and then four is wasted. I really like those songs, Wow. Okay, but three.

Speaker 4:

I'm going to say into the dust, into dust.

Speaker 2:

Yes, that was a really touching song that deserves a lot of listen.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that could have been on rumors, you know, yeah, yeah, I really like your comparison there. That was good.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was yeah A modern day like reserve nineties, fleetwood Mac, ish kind of.

Speaker 3:

Right, yeah, what about you? Um, I'm going to go with five string. Ser Fleetwood Mac-ish kind of Right, yeah, what about you? I'm going to go with Five Strings. Serenade is my number three. Okay, it was very I like the strings on it and it was kind of it was very touching and it was very beautiful, and so I think it was and it was just like the right length, you know. Okay, so it's my number three. All right, I think it was, uh, and it was just like the right length, you know so okay.

Speaker 3:

It was my number three.

Speaker 2:

All right, my number two has to be so to night that I might, might see.

Speaker 3:

Wow Okay, good for you.

Speaker 2:

I mean it's gotta be on there.

Speaker 4:

It was strong, it was it was a strong, it was tough last track.

Speaker 2:

I really like the rambling of it, sort of the like non-structure.

Speaker 3:

It was really good. It was chaos. There was a lot of chaos.

Speaker 2:

There was a lot of disorders yeah, the noodling, the harsh, the harsh noodling, with her uh soothing voice, it kind of like equaled it out, yeah, yeah, in a way which is of course I think, like at any given night, that that's a kind of a song, I mean spoiler.

Speaker 3:

it's not going to be in my top three, but so tonight that I might see was sort of um, it could be at any given night. I could put that as my number one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, fair. Yeah put that as my number one. Yeah, fair, yeah, but uh, it just tonight it just didn't hit with me, you know, but not tonight. So tonight, yeah, not tonight.

Speaker 3:

But you know, if I give it another list, I could totally see me like oh yeah, I completely missed that. My number two is going to be into dust. Like you like, um, the same reasons that you liked it. Um, it was just so. It was crafted really well and it was simple. I like the really simple songs on here. A lot of these chaotic ones are awesome too, but more strings, yeah, yeah, and so it hit with me. That's my number two.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yeah, I think when I heard it. Number three Mary of Silence is my number one. Yes, because it really is Doors-esque, like Hope. Sandoval is potentially the Jim Morrison female version of Jim Morrison from the 90s Of course. And Ray Manzarek versus David Roback.

Speaker 3:

I mean, I don't know, you got oh you're just sort of they even have, you know, they kind of have the same disposition. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, hope's good looking.

Speaker 3:

You know Jim's good looking Like charismatic yeah, in a, in a. You know like a like a sensual way, yeah, and then Ray Mancero cause, like the nerd in the background, and so there's row back and there.

Speaker 2:

but they're, they take you off the cliff with these emotional uh numbers that they have here. Yeah, exactly, yeah, that's my number one as well. Really.

Speaker 3:

Mary silence is, okay, yeah, the clear cut winner in this one. Yeah, yeah, for the reasons you mentioned. Yeah, yeah, it reminded me of this Is the End. I thought it may even be better than this Is the End.

Speaker 2:

That was a good pick too.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I liked how that they borrowed from it. That was the brilliance of it. They borrowed from it, they made it better and in a way that's fresh. Yeah Versus hearing. This is the end it's been overplayed.

Speaker 2:

Honorable mention to Bell's Ring and Unreflected those are great songs. For me, she's my Baby, and Wasted could be in my top three on any other given time I listen to it yeah, I liked all of them, of course, man.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that was the thing Fade Into.

Speaker 2:

You isn't even on our favorites for this. Yeah, I liked all of them, of course, man. Yeah, that was the thing Fade Into. You isn't even on our favorites for this. Yeah, no and that's a great song as well, and it's interesting that they started the album with that. Yeah, Because it's so soft For me. My style probably would be like you get the people moving first before you bring them down fair, but they went right for fade into you and then kind of build it up a little bit. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

They've got that Mary a silence like the third song. I liked it. I liked the way they threw it Okay yeah. It was good. Five string serenade it's a great song and I it's a great song and it was right afterwards and and strong too, you know. So, yeah, good, good stuff and it was a play. This is probably my my surprise favorite of the year.

Speaker 2:

Wow Okay.

Speaker 3:

You know, I think it might be, you know, wow, okay.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it was, just it was. Yeah, it's up there.

Speaker 2:

Surprisingly, not you know, maybe I'm just, you know, in the mood, but this is.

Speaker 3:

I was really happy to discover this and thanks for listening with us and thank you all right, take care.

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