The Greatest Non Hits
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Let's take a trip down memory lane and dive into the endless universe of overlooked songs from our past! 🌌 In this age of music streaming, have you ever played a game with your friends where you listen to the deep tracks of old albums and debate which ones were the most underrated? Well, guess what? Chris and Tim have invented that game, and it's an absolute blast! 😄
Whether you're walking your dog, driving your car, or taking an early morning run, 🎸🎙️ these two music enthusiasts will take you on a journey through each studio album we all know and love. Tim will even serenade you with a little guitar, while Chris drops some mind-blowing knowledge about the songs.
But here's the best part – they'll listen to and rank the top 3 non-hits from each album! 🏆 It's like discovering hidden gems that never got the recognition they deserved. And don't worry, there's plenty of comic relief sprinkled throughout each episode to keep you entertained and laughing your socks off! 🤣
So, if you're in need of a musical escape and want to explore the uncharted territories of underrated songs, join Chris and Tim on "The Greatest Non Hits" podcast! Trust me, you won't regret it. 🎧✨ Let's celebrate the unsung heroes of music together!
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The Greatest Non Hits
Phish: A Picture of Nectar
What happens when you blend jazz, fusion, bluegrass, rock, and Latin rock into one album? Get ready to experience the magic of Phish's third studio album, "A Picture of Nectar." Join Chris and Tim as they embark on a musical journey, celebrating the eclectic soundscape of this 1992 release. As we explore the band's early roots at Nectar’s Tavern in Burlington, Vermont, we draw fascinating parallels between Phish's unbreakable chemistry and the legendary trio, Rush. With Chris chiming in as a fair-weather fan and Tim bringing his deep Phish knowledge, we dissect the non-hit tracks like "Tweezer Reprise," "Chalk Dust Torture," "Stash," and "Llama," appreciating how the band's dynamics elevate their music.
Ever wondered what it's like to be at a Phish concert? Tim takes us behind the scenes, sharing his personal experiences from multiple Phish festivals and concerts. We discuss the crowd's electrifying energy for favorites like "Cavern," "Tweezer," and "Chalk Dust Torture," and delve into the revolutionary themes of "Llama," even touching on its rare slow rendition. From catching glow sticks to sneaking in cucumbers, our concert anecdotes add a fun, personal touch to the episode. This chapter is a tribute to the vibrant and unconventional world of Phish fandom.
Peek into the quirky and vibrant universe of Phish as we analyze their unique lyrics and musical genius. We tackle everything from the atmospheric, dream-like experiences their music conjures to the dedication of the 'rail riders'—Phish's most passionate fans. Special shoutouts to shorter attendees who struggle in the crowd and a nostalgic nod to iconic venues like Wetlands in New York City. Wrapping up with reflections on Trey Anastasio's brilliant compositions and the rarity of certain live tracks, this episode promises to leave listeners with a newfound appreciation for Phish's unparalleled creativity and musicianship.
I was thinking about it. I was thinking what an amazing job I have. You know, I get paid to urinate in people's ears.
Speaker 4:It's not only people in New York, you know like high priced hookers and stuff.
Speaker 1:They get paid to do that too.
Speaker 5:They'll have to pay 22 bucks to get their ears urinated in. All right, thank you for listening to Greatest Not Hits. I'm Chris. You for listening to greatest non-hits. I'm chris and uh playing a bunch of different riffs from the album. A picture of nectar is my co-host, tim. So, uh, we want to thank you for listening. A picture of nectar is the third studio album by the band fish. Uh, it was released on february 18th maybe we're 18 1992 on electro records. So, then, this is dedicated to the proprietor of the, the tavern nectars in burlington, vermont. Then that's where fish played their first bar gig, followed by a series of three-month nightstands, and so this is where they you. This is the place where they learned how to play.
Speaker 5:So, the proprietor's name was Nectar Rorris and he's a part of the album cover. If you look at it you kind of see it looks like there's skin like an orange peel, but then it's in the silhouette of like a man with a mustache, kind of like looks like one of the Bears fans, yeah, kind of like Ditka-ish sort of, without the shades. But anyway, that's the album cover and that's the inspiration behind what we're going to listen to today, and it's an album that kind of is a jazz, fusion, bluegrass rock. There's even some Latin rock in it and it's, yeah, 1992. They're just, you know.
Speaker 5:Other than that, you know, and you know what we always do, we're going to listen to all the songs, we're going to play some sound clips, we're going to have some fun and then we're going to rank the top three non-hits at the end of it. So we've got all that coming for you. But we can fill the rest of the time with just chilling out, relaxing this band. I can info dump all day long, but you can look up all this stuff on Wikipedia. There's also fishnet. There's a whole fish booklet. I can't remember the term for it, but Tim has this big, huge almanac almost of fish stuff and we'll get to that later on.
Speaker 2:I'm going to ask him.
Speaker 5:He and I are coming from two completely different points of view on this album. I, of course, am not, you know, like a dedicated fan. He's into it, he's a part of the Phish community, he has a history, he knows all the songs, he's been to concerts, he's done all this stuff. Me, I'm a fair-weathered listener. I listen to them and it's super impressive. Even though I'm not hardcore, I think everybody can appreciate the tightness, the musicianship. When you listen to that clip you can tell that they're super good friends and they have a good relationship with one another and that's a really endearing kind of thing to to see and I admire that. I was a fan of rush and sadly, you know, neil passed away and but they have a similar, uh, chemistry on stage, the way they play, that you can tell they play together, in sync with one another. I think it's because they know each other very well. They're friends, they're deeply rooted in the others and there's like this balance and this respect that they all have and that's what I think really drives the music.
Speaker 5:And it really comes out and we want this podcast to kind of take that on, that ethos, so to speak. And also I listened to it sparingly this week. Tim's going to come into this with the ear of knowing it all. I'm coming in with, okay, I've heard all the songs two or three times, but I don't. I'm hoping that listening today is going to give me, take me to the next step of really having a good understanding of the songs and which ones I like or which ones you know put me in a mood that I may have not been in, or a better mood if I were in one. Better mood once a song strikes me better than the other and I'll just get a better understanding of the of the tracks.
Speaker 5:So, up to this point, there's a song called Tweezer Reprise and I think it's the very last song of the tracks. So, up to this point, there's a song called Tweezer Reprise and I think that was the very last song and that was. That's my number one, I think right now with the song Chalk Does Torture and maybe Stash or Llama, even Seven Son of the Llama we have a lot of Carl Spackman clips, shout out to all the Caddyshack fans out there for when we play Llama, which is the first song.
Speaker 5:All of the songs are going to be open for me, because from my point of view, there are no hits For Tim like within the Phish community, though and Tim can correct me when he comes on if he wants to, but I think it's. I think Chalk Dust, torture and Cavern are considered faves amongst the community, and Cavern are considered faves amongst the community, so those would be considered hits, or the ones that are the most mainstream of all within the community. So he'll exclude those and give us his top three of the rest.
Speaker 5:So, anyway, what else can I say? I mean, you know the guys. It's, uh, trey anastasio seems to have written most of these, but also collaborated with a few people, so we can keep that in mind. And uh, yeah, he's the guy who plays guitar and lead vocals big, big part of the band. He, he was the guy that was doing a lot of the talking on that clip that we heard in the beginning, and they were also talking about urinating in the ears of listeners. We got that from a YouTube clip online, so I think if you type that into the search, you'll get it. There's other good quotes in there, but, without further ado, our co-host, tim Tim how you doing, bud?
Speaker 6:Doing well.
Speaker 5:Good to hear man Give us your thoughts.
Speaker 6:man Choice, paralysis with the intro. So many good songs.
Speaker 5:Yeah, which ones do you like playing the best?
Speaker 6:I think Stash is good finger exercise. You're really going up and down.
Speaker 5:I'm surprised that I remembered that riff right pretty thoroughly cool so before we get into the album, just tell you don't really have a favorite album. It's more or less like what you're feeling, and so when you listen? To this? When do you go to this? What mood are you in when you go to this album?
Speaker 6:Heavy hitters. It's probably a good party fun, optimistic mood I would say yeah, this is a lot of the greatest hits. Yeah, for for live concert goers would be on this one. You know, cavern, chalk, dust, torture are mostly um, or at least cavern is played at the end of sets as closers yeah, there's some songs that really get you energized if they play tweezer. Yeah, that's it, they'll always play. Usually tweet twee prize. They call it twee prize.
Speaker 6:Okay, tweezer, reprise um yeah, I didn't know that that was I mentioned earlier that's my favorite up to now, but I'm not, you know it could change at the end, but nevertheless yeah there was the merriweather show where they did the Trinity of Tweezers and played it over and over and broke back into it in all these songs. They played it like eight times throughout. That was pretty wild.
Speaker 5:From your experience, like on this album. Which songs have they played the most of Like? Is it Cavern? Is that a staple, or is there is Tweez Prize? From your experience, like on this album, which which songs have they played the most of Like? Is it cavern is always a. Is that a staple, or is there is tweeze prize? Cavern Um or one of the others, I don't know.
Speaker 6:Landlady is wedged into uh one of the jams of uh another live song. Okay okay, um, so they actually play landlady in another song, but it's not labeled as landlady. Um yeah, but cavern, for for me, I'm gonna exclude. For me, I'm going to exclude Cavern Tweezer and Chalk Dust Torture out of my top three, because those are what I would deem hits.
Speaker 5:I'm sorry you said what, eliza. You put in there too.
Speaker 6:No, tweezer, tweezer Reprise Cavern and Chalk Dust Torture. Yep, yeah, tweeze reprise cavern and chalk dust torture got yep, yeah, all right, because I consider tweet, tweet prize and tweezer the same song, almost because like they rock. One is just more of a club version. Okay, but uh, yeah right on all right, this is uh. Yeah, I've been to, I guess, two fish festivals now magnaball and uh just did mondegreen in delaware and I broke over 50 shows with mondegreen, which was great great staff.
Speaker 6:Yeah, I do kind of. I knew I was close to 50. I'm not entirely sure how many you ready to get into the album.
Speaker 5:You got any last thoughts.
Speaker 6:Yeah, let's do it. This is a great album. All right, one of the best.
Speaker 5:This is a llama.
Speaker 1:Big hitter Llama.
Speaker 6:Call the fire department. All right, call the fire department, all right.
Speaker 5:I want to commend us, though, for having the restraint not to play the joshua fought the battle of jericho clip. Just on this alone, I think it sounds cool. Sunrise over the turquoise mountains.
Speaker 1:Messenger birds in sight. They came up from the valley Full sides out of time.
Speaker 6:This is about one of Trey's college songs, Lama taboo lama, taboo, taboo, trigger blasts, fast rain, chicken loins, seeds.
Speaker 1:I start to run. It was the loudest thing I'd ever heard and I knew my time had come.
Speaker 6:To end the day it's about a revolution. You know, bazookas. Taboo is a wooden brick, a stone monument placed above the coffin of the deceased. So they're fighting Iculus in this war. It's sort of like a thing Trey wrote up in college about yeah, it's pretty wild, blast class driving the loyalists back. You know revolution songs. It's a heavy hitter.
Speaker 2:E-halls often wax one, so I jump ship and I make my way over to the bed. It's a jolly llama, hey, llama, hey, llama, hey. How about a little something you know for the?
Speaker 6:effort, don't throw stuff at Trey when he's playing. He's very upset. Yeah, we're not advocating that. I got something in my eye. It might be a glow stick. I don't even know A glow stick boar. I did catch a glow stick out of mid't. Even know A glow stick boar. I did catch a glow stick out of midair at Mondegreen and everybody thought it was the coolest thing as I ate my cucumber. I was the cucumber guy. Everybody was the guy who snuck in cucumbers to the show.
Speaker 5:Yeah, that's. He's got that reputation too.
Speaker 1:Bingo Sorry, all right.
Speaker 5:Love that song. That's a good start.
Speaker 6:Energy, energy right, that's a lot of energy for that one. It is yeah, but they have these little vignettes in in I could have done a coffee shop version of that one, but uh a slow they do a slow llama sometimes oh, do they it's very rare, but they'll do a slow llama.
Speaker 5:Oh, I dig that.
Speaker 6:That is hilarious actually they mix it up, yeah, a lot of that. Also, john Popper played on that song when they played in New Jersey in Stanhope in 95, just to tie it in to, because Popper's from New Jersey.
Speaker 5:Trey's from New Jersey. Yeah, princeton yeah, they're both from that area. Yeah, they're in academia that area. Yeah, they're, they're in like academia that kind of thing.
Speaker 6:I don't know if popper likes to pee in the listeners ears, but you know yeah some highbrow stuff yeah, how about those bears?
Speaker 5:man, I'm getting kind of okay. All right, all right. The next one is Eliza yes, pieces, a softer one right, taking the energy back down.
Speaker 6:That's kind of intentional wrote for his then girlfriend Sue Eliza, now his wife.
Speaker 5:And now his first daughter is named Eliza so this is named after his now spouse and daughter at the time. First daughter is named Eliza, so this is named after his now spouse and daughter At the time. Yeah, now it's like yeah, it's for you too.
Speaker 6:Exactly there we go. Songs like this kind of freak people out about fish. They're like what they're making, these really elaborate classy jazz pieces. Shout out to Eliza and Spencer, love birds. And Eliza and Danny shout out oh, these are all the Elizas in your life yes, there we go.
Speaker 3:I don't have any.
Speaker 5:Eliza shout outs, but yeah, but good for them. I don't have any Eliza shout-outs, but yeah, but yeah, but good for them. Good for you too, congratulations.
Speaker 2:Barbershop Raga.
Speaker 5:That was Barbershop Raga, but yeah glad you caught it.
Speaker 6:Barbershop Jazz Raga. Yeah, yeah, okay, that's good.
Speaker 5:All right, the next one. Okay, Cavern.
Speaker 6:This is a big one.
Speaker 1:No one plays jazz here at the pit stop, okay, okay. I got nothing on this song. I'm not a fan, I don't know why I'm frustrated?
Speaker 5:Because I know there, on this song I'm not a fan. I don't know why I'm frustrated.
Speaker 1:Because I know there's. This is good, or Saul, oh, or Saul.
Speaker 2:Oh, and I'll bring all my shoes and my glasses with me. The last device.
Speaker 1:The flesh from Satan's dollars will make the rubies so cruel. Reduct the carrots from your pain, you worthless, swampy, fool you fool.
Speaker 6:Worthless. Swampy fool, you fool, I'm happy. Worthless swampy fool.
Speaker 7:What the fuck is he talking about?
Speaker 1:Exploding them through fields and men and swimming in the mire. The septic made this gargoyle tooth.
Speaker 6:Gargoyle tooth Demented me with fire. Demented me with fire. I'd change it where the current chose Wait.
Speaker 1:This one's bad.
Speaker 2:And if a chance of new slime died, I'd stuff it Mented me with fire, hey listen to that.
Speaker 3:I'm a shop roger. Maybe throw a little rouge on you. Tuck your sack back, you game.
Speaker 6:No 40-year-old virgin there for you. Stuff in your sack, all right, shout out to John and Susie. They're best friends, you know, yeah sure, that's a good one. Shout out to the Traveling Fish fans. Here we got slithering slugs, a penile erector.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what's the story behind that? We'll get it later. I'm telling you, baby, that's not mine.
Speaker 7:That sort of thing is my bag baby.
Speaker 6:Oh, shout out to Corota. You know, Saul went to a couple shows back in the 90s. Saul, what did you think about the light show? Eyes are going crazy. Yes, that's Saul. His eyes were going crazy.
Speaker 2:Kuroda.
Speaker 7:E-Halls often wax funny. What the fuck is he talking about?
Speaker 6:A cushion Cushion convector. Yeah, they changed out the penile erector. I think that was probably Paige Didn't like singing about that. Oh, director. Serpent deflector, mud rat detector, ribbon reflector, cushion convector picture effector what the fuck is he talking about.
Speaker 5:That's awesome.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's a cool hero and I'll bring all my shoes and my glasses with me.
Speaker 5:Oh, that's a good way to end that. Thank you All right.
Speaker 2:That was all Tim, all right.
Speaker 5:You got all Tim All right, you got it down the cavern. This is Poor Heart. This is Country from Diddy.
Speaker 6:What do you think, Foghorn?
Speaker 5:Don't let him have it, you got to tease him a little. I'm going to certainly tease him. This is some good music here. This kind of reminds me of Don Knotts' Keystone.
Speaker 6:Pops. It is a little Mayberry. Yeah it's Mayberry-ish. This is written by Mike after someone stole his tape recorder.
Speaker 1:Oh I didn't know that.
Speaker 6:Okay, hope he finds his four-track tape recorder. There's a.
Speaker 5:Goddard thief out there. Yeah, shout out to Kevin Falcon. He's a producer and engineer. He probably has lots of tape.
Speaker 1:There's an album coming together.
Speaker 5:Like tighter. Yeah, I think it's coming out Like like their musicianship is better, yeah, first, one that we did.
Speaker 6:Gordon Gordon stone is on pedal steel on this one. Yeah, gotcha. Really, the drumming on this is this whole album is fish, is the drummer, you know it's always laying down yeah, some banjo, kevin herpin, maybe harpin, maybe um maybe not, I'm not sure.
Speaker 5:Mike gordon's played a good bass on this. Oh, he annually vocals too.
Speaker 6:Yeah, mike gordon he's a great vocalist. I mean he's got sort of a nasally. Uh, he's got the crazy eyes. Yes, he does shout out to the scarf wearers and tea drinkers. Okay.
Speaker 5:Yep, and the bass players out there. He's playing a hell of a bass, I think. Oh my god and the Page. Yeah, I mean Crush it.
Speaker 1:They all.
Speaker 6:They all fit right in there.
Speaker 1:Yes, they do, they all fit right in there.
Speaker 6:It's a great harmony.
Speaker 1:They sound better when they sing together. You won't steal that thing. Yeah, you won't steal my poor heart yeah All right, this is Stash.
Speaker 3:I'm telling you, baby, that's not mine.
Speaker 4:So how would you boost me, especially when you know I smell it? I'm so how would you boost me Especially?
Speaker 6:when you know I smell it. Yeah, getting pulled over Scary, you better just tell them what you got. I'm telling you, I smell it, you smell it.
Speaker 4:You smell it at a fish show Marijuana in the car, which last time you had anything in the car you got to clap.
Speaker 3:You got to clap three times Marijuana in the car, which last time you had anything in the car, you gotta clap.
Speaker 6:You gotta clap three times. That was like four I think At the show you gotta clap, but not too much, but not too much.
Speaker 5:This is like a fugue or something that Trey was learning in college that he made this song. Yeah, there's a lot of notes. Yeah this is that tension and release sort of like up and down. I mean you could probably do Simon Karp's in Florida maybe in a Baroque.
Speaker 6:It's very Baroque-y, it's fusing.
Speaker 7:Sort of thing. Is my bag baby?
Speaker 4:I know you smell it, you know what's in there. This is crazy. This sucks, man. We could have been fine, but now you got me out here trying to play me as Boo Boo the Fool. Come on, man, we're better than that, all right.
Speaker 1:Sloping companion. I cast down the ash, yanked out my tunic and dangled my stash, zipping through the forest with a curling fleas To grow in them. Spindles, the mutant, I seize Sort of a.
Speaker 5:Yeah, very interesting it starts to get gross and then comes back talking about the police trey counts references as charlie chrisman, miles davis, john coltrane, charles mingus um charles mingus.
Speaker 6:Yeah, they would play this at the wetlands. Preserve a lot, apparently.
Speaker 5:Miles Davis John.
Speaker 6:Coltrane, Charles Mingus, Charles Mingus. Yeah, they would play this at the Wetlands. Preserve a lot. Apparently it's the II V7i progression.
Speaker 4:And you're holding everything for everybody.
Speaker 6:How you sort of go back to home base Okay.
Speaker 5:So they play this song just to keep themselves grounded and in a way, playing it really reminds them of their early, where they came from.
Speaker 6:Oh, yeah, for sure. And the offbeat drumming is phenomenal in this Very unusual drumming patterns.
Speaker 5:That John Fishman is a really great drummer.
Speaker 4:And you're holding everything for everybody.
Speaker 6:He's holding the beat, what's up.
Speaker 1:I need more cowbell. So how'd you boost me? So how'd you Got it for you? Apple toast bed, heated, firm, like it right Light with the chuchu Say please don't Control for smile. So how would you the solar garlic?
Speaker 4:Boost me, especially when you know I smell it. I'm telling you I smell it.
Speaker 6:You smell that garlic rot Solar garlic.
Speaker 1:Maybe, so Maybe not Maybe baby, maybe baby, maybe baby, maybe baby Maybe. So maybe not Maybe, maybe Maybe maybe Maybe maybe Maybe maybe Maybe. So maybe not Maybe.
Speaker 3:So maybe not Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe Maybe maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe.
Speaker 1:Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, Maybe maybe.
Speaker 2:Maybe, maybe, maybe. You better not mention that again you.
Speaker 1:Solar garlic.
Speaker 6:Just life just keeps happening. Was it, was it for this, my life, I'd saw.
Speaker 3:Life is like hey, guess what?
Speaker 6:And you're like what? And it's like bam, bam you better not mention that again.
Speaker 1:More life.
Speaker 6:It just never stops giving you more life. That's life. Hey, you want another scoop, my love boy.
Speaker 5:You want another scoop?
Speaker 4:And you holding everything for everybody. Let's shout out to the cops.
Speaker 6:I mean this kind of soloing with the tension of the piano versus the guitar, the drum and bass together is I mean, it's a crowd favorite Really?
Speaker 3:Listen to the mic there, run it down.
Speaker 6:Yeah, I love it. It's Calypso sort of drumming.
Speaker 3:It's part love it.
Speaker 6:It's Calypso sort of drumming. This part of it is cool.
Speaker 5:Yeah, there's certain parts of songs on this album that are like oh yeah, I like this part of this song.
Speaker 6:I mean, this is goosebumps when you're at a live show.
Speaker 5:Yeah, that's what I've heard. It's like you've got to go to the shows. That's a big part of being into it.
Speaker 6:It's so much good light show, everybody's just grooving for this.
Speaker 5:Okay, now I get it. Yeah, I've got to go to the show, I'll do it. I'm got to go to the show, I'll do it. I'm going to go by the end of the season. I'll find a place.
Speaker 1:All right. Sure, you know that if is the middle word in life. If you can keep your head when all about you're losing there's a blaming it on you. If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you, I mean, I know, I can't, I'm man, I'm a little man, he's, he's a great man oh, oh, nice timing on that foot.
Speaker 5:What mantica all right.
Speaker 3:Crab in my shoe mouth Crab in my crab. In my crab in my shoe mouth.
Speaker 5:All right, a little vignette, a little vignette Beulah papyrus, here Is it.
Speaker 6:Beulah Beulah yeah, like Beulah Beulah yeah. Beulah papyrus here Is it Beulah Beulah. Yeah, like Beulah, beulah, beulah.
Speaker 5:Beulah. So this is like A super popular song and it's. I want to go back to this. On fishnet, trey explains that it's a song about a mother and he explains that it was Dave's mother. It's Dave's mother, his name is Gwela. Knock on the door of his bedroom, come in, poke Dave in the hallway and spoil all about his mother. Have you heard that story before?
Speaker 6:No, I did not know that. Yeah, I thought this was more of a Trey Senior Thesis song. It's just some kind of adventure that these it's kind of reggae Barbershop Rocker.
Speaker 1:See, that's all. She washed me all.
Speaker 6:Fish Clan is definitely expanding like some kind of recursive virus there. Even nowadays, all the young kids are there. It's crazy, crazy. There's got to be a virus or two. They're vaping, yeah, the vapors. So it's a larval craze, the vape.
Speaker 5:There's got rhinothropic thunder, yeah flavors yeah, a fish concert has its own gut. Microbiome yeah, flavors yeah, a fish concert has its own gut microbiome.
Speaker 7:What the fuck is he talking about? What the fuck?
Speaker 6:This is a sort of chromatic adventure here.
Speaker 5:Yeah, like the carnival gone wrong.
Speaker 6:Yes, Are you liking this one?
Speaker 5:This is taking you down to. Yeah, it's taking me back to seven years old.
Speaker 6:The Silken Tunnel? Yeah, something like that, something like that.
Speaker 5:Yeah, just like a bad dream. This is like the soundtrack of that kind of a dream. It's got a subconscious kind of vibe to it.
Speaker 6:Now Trey moves the sustain and then Paige does the sort of shining theme, and then they both kind of sync up at the same time. Yeah.
Speaker 5:Oh man, A here's Johnny clip would sound really good with this right now. Yeah, oh man, A here's Johnny clip would sound really good with this right now. That's a missed opportunity. Ah great, you know I like that. So maybe I could be a fly Same song.
Speaker 1:And be deracked as I die Deracked as I die and be a ritual from within the silken tunnel that they spit.
Speaker 5:Yeah, like that spider.
Speaker 6:Purple frown Spoil the mood Shout out to the short people out there, the short fish fans and the tall ones, you know. Yeah, that are blocking the fish, yeah, the short fish, and the tall ones, you know, yeah, that are blocking the vision of the short fish. Shout out to Steve, the tallest fish fan, I know, yeah. Shout out to Steve and Andy.
Speaker 5:And shout out to the person directly behind them that's 5 feet tall. Yeah, he has a face full of his ass.
Speaker 6:They're riding on the redundant rail. Yeah, the rail riders Shout out to the rail riders. There's like a guy's group of fans called the rail riders. They were like just these middle-aged, really really aggro fish fans that would like elbow chicks and like like really stamp their territory and people would like be like what the hell is your problem, man? And they're like I'm not about to stop now. I've been on the rail for you know how many shows, so they're like keeping a uh, their own little yeah, they get there early.
Speaker 6:You know they don't tailgate, they go right, go right into the venue and sit there.
Speaker 5:They never wear diapers. Yeah, exactly, it's pretty Baby baby.
Speaker 6:A little Magila, a little teaser. Lots of instrumentals in this one.
Speaker 5:You've been pretty tight-lipped about your ranking. I'm going to be interested to see that. Are you going to? Can I ask if there's going to be a vignette like this on there? Um?
Speaker 6:No, okay, yeah, I do like the vignettes, but there's, there's so much packed into those longer songs. Right, exactly, you can't ignore it, you can't.
Speaker 3:I mean.
Speaker 5:And I can see how it's. For some it might be a pointless exercise to rank. Yeah, sometimes there can be a mood, but I think when you're newer like me and familiarizing yourself with the songs, there are certain ones that grab you. Yeah, Like right now. Sometimes you go out of favor of other songs, but I'm just in the moment, these are my three. I'll give my songs, but I'm just in the moment, these are my three. I'll give my top three non-hits in the moment. I'm going to keep listening to this album and see if it changes over time.
Speaker 6:So we've got a little ragah here, barbershop ragah.
Speaker 5:This is very barbershop ragah Aguila is barbershop ragah To those tourers.
Speaker 6:call your mom if you got dinner on the table, okay mikey, come on.
Speaker 3:Our parents are worried. It's dinner time. Why don't we go home? Wow?
Speaker 6:I don't think they've ever played this live, actually really maybe Really Maybe. This is a Paige McConnell contribution. It debuted in 1990 at the Wetlands Wow.
Speaker 5:Oh, so they were playing this at the Wetlands.
Speaker 6:It played at 91 only, okay, and they were playing this at the wetlands. They played it in 91, only Okay, and they stopped playing. This song Got it.
Speaker 5:Interesting.
Speaker 6:Okay.
Speaker 5:I think I was reading somewhere that there's another song in here that went out of the circulation a long time ago. They haven't played it since the 90s, oh yeah.
Speaker 6:People are always chasing. No, this occasionally creeps up into set lists. Last played in 2014 in Merriweather.
Speaker 5:Oh, wow, okay, this is the landlady, oh, okay.
Speaker 7:I'm getting out of here, man, she's nasty.
Speaker 5:Gotta watch out for the landlady. I can give you half. She's coming for the rent.
Speaker 7:I'm getting out of here. Man, she's nasty, you pay him. I thought I was clear in my email that I needed a couple weeks Shout to Marsha.
Speaker 5:Fixing the plumbing. It's kind of cool how they'll play like a heavy rock riff over this.
Speaker 3:Latin kind of.
Speaker 6:Calypso, sort of yeah, it's Latin style Samba-esque, written by Trey oh. This is played in Punch you in the Eye, which is one of their bigger rock songs. They play this in Punch you in the Eye Because it kind of fits Again again. This song emerged at the wetlands. Okay, entering heavy rotation there.
Speaker 5:93 wetlands is like in like new york. Yeah, I know it's in manhattan, like lower manhattan.
Speaker 6:I think it was yeah, yeah, maybe.
Speaker 5:Or close by. But yeah, it's infamous, it's famous, infamous. There's a lot of people. It's sort of like the Whiskey A Go-Go of New York. All those bands played there.
Speaker 6:It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they wedge this into another song that they play live, I mean this is oh, wow yeah. This is the part where you've got to give this kind of a song some consideration.
Speaker 5:Santana, I think Right.
Speaker 6:Definitely.
Speaker 7:I can give you half, all right.
Speaker 5:You pay now. You pay now.
Speaker 6:All right, this is Glide.
Speaker 5:Not much to say on this one yeah, it's just kind of it almost silly, almost a time filler.
Speaker 6:Well, it was written by tom marshall, the lyricist, and fish. When they used to, they used to sit outside as teenagers and say we're glad, glad, glad that you're alive to people randomly and thought that was hilarious, okay, and so this is kind of where that song came out of there's a lot of collaboration, like anastasia fishman, gordon mcconnell, marshall marshall yeah, marshall is the beginning lyricist for fish.
Speaker 6:They work with him. They'll take poems that he writes and rework them. They'll take, you know, inspiration from their experiences to make songs. Marshall is like he's the lyricist yeah he's a producer slash lyricist type. He gets in on the process. He's another one of their best friends.
Speaker 5:you know You're right, he's just not a recurring member of the band. Anastasio Gordon and McConnell are doing that.
Speaker 7:He was.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I'm sorry go ahead.
Speaker 6:I think they kicked him out in the beginning. He didn't want to be in the band. Oh, he didn't want to be in the band. Yeah. I don't know he didn't have quite the musical chops. I don't think.
Speaker 5:Yeah, but he's in a friend group still. Yeah, for sure they respect him as a friend, as a person he's involved. This is a way for him to be involved?
Speaker 6:Yeah, they. Nowadays they don't really. I don't think he writes for them. But Fish write for themselves, are they?
Speaker 5:all still. Is Marshall still alive? Is he still in the fold in some way?
Speaker 6:He'll do shows Tom Marshall, and people in Denver and Colorado and crunchy towns love to see Tom Marshall. Okay, I got you. I mean he'd run like an antelope and all those other songs. A lot of Yuta songs were written by Marshall.
Speaker 5:Right, yeah, I think we talked about that. And Stash, he wrote that with Anastasia and Guala Papyrus too. I'll say he had a significant hand in this.
Speaker 2:That's some heavy shit, man. E-halls often wax one.
Speaker 3:Maybe throw a little rouge on ya.
Speaker 6:This is a little bit of a break.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it's a feels better moment.
Speaker 1:A little pull off some of that Glad glad glad that you're alive, and we're glad, glad, glad that you'll arrive, and we're glad, glad, glad, glad, glad glad glad glad, glad, glad, glad, glad.
Speaker 5:And we're glad, glad, glad that you're a glad, you're a glide. That's kind of like a church kind of a choir thing a little acapella yeah. Oh man All right tweezer.
Speaker 6:Oh, oh man.
Speaker 3:Looks like she's going to turn cold tomorrow. Oh yeah, Got a front coming in.
Speaker 1:Disco Stu got hooked on the white stuff back in the 70s.
Speaker 5:Yeah, this is kind of like work it, work it.
Speaker 6:Work it yeah baby.
Speaker 1:Well, I just got back from swimming in the pool Into the freezer.
Speaker 4:Caesar with a freezer. What when you get out of the water?
Speaker 3:you need to dry off right away to avoid catching a cold.
Speaker 1:Disco stoop. Well, I just got back from swimming in the pool and the water was cold.
Speaker 3:You pay up.
Speaker 6:Pay up. All right, this is what you go to pay for, won't you step into the freezer?
Speaker 2:This is going to be cold and you're next.
Speaker 6:Teaser with a tweezer. Get the tweezers out, get those. Shout out to the unibrows out there. Oh man, just tweezing all the time, or not, if they have the unibrow.
Speaker 5:They're embracing it. I have attempted it a time or two.
Speaker 6:I got off of that. You can't go up you got to go out. You can't go like this you got to go out.
Speaker 5:We go out is the key, otherwise it just keeps growing fuller and thicker. Yeah.
Speaker 7:What the fuck is he talking about? What the fuck?
Speaker 2:Son of a man, son of a man Flowing robes.
Speaker 6:The grace of Paul Striking. It's very striking. It's very striking, striking, it's very striking with the solos for this. You know we got just they want to keep going and I mean they're not gonna not to bridge this. You got 40-minute tweezers. They just go for it. We still have like tweeze prize coming up.
Speaker 5:Twee prize, it's always yeah and it's still the same writing group Anastasia Fishman Gordon.
Speaker 3:This is going gonna be cold. Looks like she's gonna turn cold tomorrow.
Speaker 6:Yeah, there's just like a little a couple more minutes.
Speaker 2:What if we find something?
Speaker 6:huh, a couple more minutes isn't gonna hurt. Come on, mikey, we're going right now. No, give him a few minutes. Give him a few more minutes isn't going to hurt, come on, mikey, we're going right now.
Speaker 7:No, let's go. Bye brother, give him a few minutes.
Speaker 6:Give him a few more minutes on this one, Uncle Ebenezer.
Speaker 5:Let me get on this one. This is the only song this and Twee's reprise where all four write and perform yeah, Of the four members On this album, and I think it comes out.
Speaker 6:It's a lot of bass slapping. You hear that? Yeah, with the bass going, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's good yeah.
Speaker 6:Little key change yeah.
Speaker 5:That's supposed to be a hard as hell to play. There's a lot of pull-offs for hammer-on pull-off. And not many bands have this kind of musicality.
Speaker 6:No's level, not like this, I mean I mean, can that be overstated?
Speaker 6:I think, yeah, it can. They all have a little bit of restraint here and they. What the listeners need to know is they do these musical exercises and jams together, where they sort of try to be minimal and listen to the bassist and then play like the bassist if trey is listening to mike, oh and then just feed off of it. Feed off of and like sort of improvise tune out of your own instrument, yeah, tune into what they're playing, so you're enjoying it. Okay with the jam, and this is what the jam you know.
Speaker 5:A couple more minutes of jamming, yeah and they're playing is an expression of their, their fervor for what the other guys are doing.
Speaker 6:Yeah, exactly, they're best friends. I mean listen to Paige right now, yeah, one's playing this one riff. Paige is playing a somewhat different riff On a baby grand here, a baby grand piano. I mean, not many people do that either, not many pianists.
Speaker 2:Oh, oh.
Speaker 6:Paige was asked what he likes to listen to in his free time and he said a lot of times he doesn't listen to music at all Because he's always playing music. Right, you have to reset your mind.
Speaker 5:It's hard to hear this all the time and then play it and practice it. You do have to. We should probably add a little bit of a breath. It doesn't get this nuts in the reprise, does it? No? That's probably why they have a reprise, does it? No, that's probably why they have a reprise.
Speaker 6:To just take this out Chromatically goes up with that riff. Yeah, plays the same riff over and over, but chromatically up and up, right, right, I follow you Until he runs out of space on the guitar.
Speaker 5:He's just banging on the piano, but he stops. It's terrible, it's terrible. Yeah, this is like one of the more challenging parts of the album for me. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, bicycle went crazy.
Speaker 5:This is bringing us back down. After all that, they probably do it for their sanity too? I don't know man, I don't know what sanity is for this band. I mean, this actually helps that they did this at the end. You know of all that raga that we heard before raga. Yeah, that's randomly never random not randomly, but just yeah kind of playing off each other, right? Ah, it feels better.
Speaker 6:Tension release there. Yeah, this is the mango song, yep.
Speaker 3:Mango, mango.
Speaker 5:Mango Shout out to Mango from SNL.
Speaker 3:Shout out to Mango from SNL. Mango, you're incredible.
Speaker 7:Incredible. We gotta get you in the recording studio. Slander on wrapped paper ties.
Speaker 5:Lifting up his heavy boots. Mango could have been a bigger star than Jennifer Lopez.
Speaker 4:Sorry, I guess his star is born. Grasp the kettle top and shoot the breeze please.
Speaker 3:Ramble while slob scrapers sigh.
Speaker 6:Lots of harmonizing here there is. They do the runs, but they have different verses. They're all singing different verses. Later on you'll hear Okay.
Speaker 1:Invisible beneath his troubled eyes verses.
Speaker 5:Later on you'll hear Some of their harmonizations. Don't their harmonies? Don't do it for me.
Speaker 7:Grape apple pie. What the?
Speaker 5:fuck is he talking about? Oh, you're talking about me, huh.
Speaker 1:Just the lyrics, yeah.
Speaker 5:I like it.
Speaker 6:Oh, why, why, why, why, why is he going to be a genius? This is about an adoption of a baby. Something Doesn't have any limbs or something, but it's going to be a genius kind of thing. I don't really.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it's got to be a fishnet somewhere. It's.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6:His hands and feet are mangled, but they change it to his hands and feet are mangoes. Yeah, when they were writing it. Thus it became the mango song. I guess.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it's about a boy who loses his extremities yet goes on to become a great genius, a trait hitched upon us selects sentence in Aaron's verbal description to him. His hands and feet are mangled, transformed ever so slightly into the delightfully down-sensitive chorus of what would eventually become the main song.
Speaker 6:I love Mike on this.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I do too.
Speaker 6:Let's keep that bass down. This is a good party sound live song when they play. I've maybe heard this a couple times live. Okay, they definitely jam a little bit, but it's pretty much played how it is on the album it's one of those here you'll see the uh. They're all singing different things here oh, okay, it's coming.
Speaker 5:I got you. That was kind of I heard it a little bit there even your hands and feet are mangoes.
Speaker 1:You're gonna be a genius anyway. Your hands and feet are mangoes. You're gonna be a genius anyway. Your hands and feet are mangoes. You're gonna be a genius anyway. Your hands and feet are mangoes, yeah.
Speaker 5:Trey has like an affinity with princesses, right Like in his background. Your hands and feet are mangoes, your brain is a snake. No-transcript. Your brain is a snake, I'm making that shit up, could be. I think he was on Sesame Street once. Did he make an appearance there after he became famous?
Speaker 6:No, his mom was the child's book author and editor of Sesame Street magazine.
Speaker 5:Oh yeah, he was born in Fort Worth, moved to Princeton.
Speaker 2:New.
Speaker 5:Jersey. So that's maybe his affinity with John Popper and the Blues Travelers because they hooked up in Princeton as well. That's kind of cool. They do some clever things. Some of it's annoying. They could have cut that off a little bit sooner, that's a charm, right.
Speaker 6:They're going for the hard.
Speaker 5:That's all folks ending on that one. I got you. I gotta put more time into this. I know, yeah, this is chalk dust torture. This is it.
Speaker 3:From within. I like it.
Speaker 5:I think I heard them play this song.
Speaker 6:Letterman. Oh yeah, dave definitely had them on to play this song. Trey's got the low voice on this. Yeah, oh no, will it a locust lurker Willingly? Locust Lurker Willingly.
Speaker 1:Locust Lurker.
Speaker 6:Trey's got the low end. Yeah, paige's got the high end there. This one's a simpler song and then you get to the solo and it's got that Right Sort of Chromatic thing going on. Yeah. Shout out to the sun dancers.
Speaker 5:All my vasoconstrictors, they come slowly.
Speaker 6:Yeah, I'll have you read the fish companion, the fish Bible. That's it, the fish companion.
Speaker 1:Then your vasoconstrictors will slowly be undone there you go the tube, Shout out to the tube lovers out there. I'm Bob Lissette Bain, now to educate somebody's fright. So who can I learn all the facts that I've learned? I sat in their chairs and my synapses burned. The torture of chalk dust collects on my tongue. Thoughts follow my vision and dance in the sun. All my vassal pictures make up slowly undone Give this way till I'm old. Can I live while I'm young? Can I live while I'm slowly undone Can't just wait till I'm old. Can I live while I'm young.
Speaker 7:Can I live while I'm young?
Speaker 3:Take your brain out of your head, wash it, scrub it, make it clean.
Speaker 5:Vasu constrictors are in your brain, right yeah, so yeah, this is I'm just gonna say it out right now who constrictors are in your brain, right, yeah? So, yeah, this is. I'm just going to say it out right now. This is the best song we've heard, so far you like this one.
Speaker 6:You like those classic rock bangers, don't you?
Speaker 5:Yeah, but it's kind of like. It's kind of James Brown-y too, but it's James Brown with a heavier rock slam to it.
Speaker 6:This is, yeah, flat-out rock and roll. It's Tina Turner rolling down the river.
Speaker 5:Rolling down a river.
Speaker 6:Yeah, this is a frenzy, this is like Eagle is often waxed when Big hitter, it's a big hitter.
Speaker 3:Big hitter.
Speaker 6:The Dust Stu knows about the Dust Disco Stu got hooked on the white stuff back in the 70s.
Speaker 1:The dust Stu knows about the dust Disco.
Speaker 3:Stu got hooked on the white stuff back in the 70s.
Speaker 6:In the 70s Disco Stu, you're aging yourself right now. All right, that's right. Fish fans that saw the 90s, you're aging yourself In a good way.
Speaker 5:They're like the shamans of the tribe. I mean, if you can't hook down to stuff in the 70s and you're still alive right now, God bless you.
Speaker 3:That's all I got to say.
Speaker 5:We have a little. This is palate cleansing in its effect.
Speaker 6:Yes, I couldn't get Tralala Boom DA out of my head, actually from the last podcast, tralala.
Speaker 3:Boom DA.
Speaker 6:Tralala, boom, da out of my head, actually from the last podcast.
Speaker 3:Trollhalla Boom DA. All right, I don't know about this.
Speaker 6:Shout out to the nature lovers out there.
Speaker 5:Yeah, shout out to the Grand Funk Railroad fans out there. I think this is kind of like.
Speaker 3:That. You know that yeah.
Speaker 6:What is David? What's your take on this one? Cotton flush of flowers and leaves attracts lots of plant eaters oh, thank you, dave.
Speaker 5:Lots of plant eaters.
Speaker 6:I have a little light rain here.
Speaker 5:How do you pronounce the name of the song Fat Fat? This is called Make my Love Pop. And what is all that shit?
Speaker 6:it's fucking bullshit just take a moment now and realize that all that shit is just bullshit oh. God, oh, is this the Amazon in 20 years? I'm scared.
Speaker 5:I'm scared. Alright, Dr Davis telephone. Please Shout out to Queensryche Operation Mindcrime.
Speaker 6:Shout out to the Ween fans out there. That's Catapult, okay.
Speaker 5:A vignette. Oh, here's the, the.
Speaker 3:Grand Funk Railroad.
Speaker 5:This is Tweezer Reprise. This is the last one, right.
Speaker 2:Well, I just got back from swimming in the pool.
Speaker 5:I like this version better this one's. Oh yeah, when they close with this this version better.
Speaker 6:Oh yeah, when they close with this. This is amazing. This is like, yeah, when Mike goes up on that.
Speaker 5:I mean, no, I think I saw it in Austin City Limits Showing the music it was. It was pretty badass. I was like, oh OK.
Speaker 6:Yeah, this is pure just. But it also has this sort of Donato sort of like you know composer opera piece, but rock opera sort of thing to it as well. How many shows have they played? How many shows have they played live? Yeah, ever, yeah. How many shows have they played live?
Speaker 5:yeah, ever yeah, I don't know uh, the 64 at Winston Square Garden 1,816.
Speaker 6:There's way more than that, because they're not. There's thousands, thousands. Well, that's according to one source. I think fishnet would be the source, but I don't. They don't really get into that. It's like not important. They have how many songs, what percentage of the song played, all that. I don't know how many times the song is played wow, all right, cool.
Speaker 5:Well, that's it. Yeah. Oh, that was good. Yeah, I, you know I, that was that was needed on my end. Uh, let's get into the top three. Man, what's? Uh, do you have yours?
Speaker 6:um yeah, I mean, obviously this is just shout out to the ones that are my perceived hits of tweezer, twee, prize, shock, dust and cavern, because those are sort of the live heavy hitters.
Speaker 5:Yeah, so that's out of your consideration.
Speaker 6:I'm going to go. Number three is going to be Poor Heart.
Speaker 5:Okay.
Speaker 6:I'm going to go. Poor Heart, you know the tape recorder. I like to have a little bluegrass in my fish show. It makes me feel uh, cultured it's good.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it's a great song. For sure I was gonna. I was gonna say it's impressive the way they, yeah, they do that and I, I can see where you're coming from with that, okay, uh, my number, I think my number three is going to be. My number three is going to be Tweezer Reprise. Nice, okay, because, yeah, it might be in yours if you were considering those.
Speaker 3:It definitely is yeah.
Speaker 5:It's a classic and it's a hit, you know, and there's a reason why it's a hit it's because it's a great jam.
Speaker 6:Yeah, everybody should know about that song.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 6:You know, exercisers, runners, twee prize. You're running up the hill, what's up?
Speaker 5:Yeah, it's motivating too.
Speaker 6:You're going to the next level.
Speaker 5:Every so often.
Speaker 6:What about your number two, mango Song? Oh yeah, it really was well placed in the album in between two rock, uh, you know, bangers, sort of a. Um, it's just a beautiful composition of a song. Um and a great chorus. You know your hands and feet are mangoes, but you're going to be a genius anyway. I mean what? What? Yeah? Mango song too, okay course you know, your hands and feet are mangoes, but you're gonna be a genius anyway. I mean, what, what, yeah, mango song two okay, my number two was stash.
Speaker 5:Oh nice, I, I liked it. It was just really musical, my memory. And then it did some weird stuff at the end that was like, oh wow, it just like captivates you and and uh does like all kinds of puts a little spell on you yeah, it does. Yeah, I got right in the pocket with it, so I'm gonna say that was my number two okay, yeah, I mean, I have to go stash number one yeah, okay I honorable mention to gula papyrus.
Speaker 6:I love eliza. It's great song. Um, okay, I mean landlady, I always just think of Punch you in the Eye. So I'm not going to say Landlady, although it's a great song. And I do like the vignette of Fat. I mean, I always tell people about that because it's just so weird and clever. It's like the rainforest, and then they're in the city all of a sudden, the, and then they're in the city all of a sudden, um, but stash is one of the paramount, uh, under appreciated songs, I think in the fish community, the clapping, uh-huh, um, the cues, everybody right singing, maybe so, maybe not, not, we're all asking about what destiny has in store for us. It's great.
Speaker 5:Right on, okay cool. I also like the communal part of it, all the things that bind the fish community together, the rituals when you see them live, that kind of thing. That's cool. Chalk.
Speaker 3:Dust.
Speaker 5:Torture is going to be my number one. Nice, the, the rituals, when you see them live, that kind of thing, that's cool. Uh, chalk dust. Torture is going to be my number one.
Speaker 6:Nice.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I just I love the music. It's just a straight ahead jam. It's. It's sort of like a bad company kind of a thing, you know, Okay, but or even like I don't know. Uh, it's just, it has just a great groove to it, it does, and I just really enjoyed it. You know, and the solo kind of stuff in the middle, All they were all like jamming all at the same time. They were all like doing solos almost at the same time at one point. So yeah.
Speaker 6:I was into the music. So that's my. If anybody gets out to Burlington, go to Nectar's.
Speaker 5:That's the club yeah you've been there before, right, I saw a.
Speaker 6:Disco Biscuits cover band there and danced my ass off Awesome. It's a really cool musical venue, really big and spacious.
Speaker 5:Yeah, maybe that'll be a reason to go up to Vermont. I've always wanted to go to Vermont. I've never been, yeah.
Speaker 6:Burlington's great.
Speaker 5:You got the lake there. You got lake there you got peaceful maybe it falls, you know good time to go. They're probably definitely up and definitely all the leafers like, like myself coming in.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's good stuff. All right on okay cool.
Speaker 5:All right, man, all right, good talk, all right, later bye.
