Tool: Undertow

Transcript

Debut Album Analysis

Speaker 1 0:00

Does everybody know ?

Speaker 2 0:00

what time it is Toll time .

Speaker 3 0:13

All right . Thank you for listening to the Greatest Nine .

Speaker 1 0:15

Hits .

Speaker 3 0:16

I'm Chris , and playing Sober from the Undertow album from Tool is my co-host , tim . We want to thank you for listening , and this is Tool's debut studio album . They had an EP that came out prior to this , called Opiate . This is their commercial success that launches their career to great heights Great Heights , released back in April 6th of 1993 , which is considered the height of the grunge alternative rock era . This one has a hidden track , the very last track , disgustipated . Hidden tracks seem to be in vogue around this time , so this is no exception .

Speaker 5 1:09

It's usually the last song in the album as well , this one .

Speaker 3 1:14

I don't want to spoil it , but I'm sure if you're listening to this you're a fan debut studio album produced by Sylvia Massey and recorded at Sound City Studios in Van Nuys , california . The band the members we'll get to them in a minute . I mean , they're from all over the place , but Los Angeles I think it was home base for them , or they're considered to be from LA , I think , by default .

Speaker 3 1:45

Uh like a lot of bands but um , it's a really interesting album in my opinion . Um , it features a mix of uh , of metal . Um , it's got progressive rock , alternative rock elements . Danny carey , amazing drummer influenced by , um , all you know so many different prog rock drummers . Of course , neil Peart my hero was also his Bill Bruford . There are a number of others , but there's that influence , there's rock elements . The lyrics are dark , introspective .

Speaker 4 2:22

The lyrics are dark introspective .

Speaker 3 2:26

I think I would probably suspect that comes from the backgrounds of the band members . Maynard James Keenan is the name of the lead singer . All the music was composed by the other members . Adam Jones on guitar super talented guitar player and has other talents . Danny Carey , one of the best drummers in the business today and over the last 20 plus years .

Speaker 3 2:56

And on this album the bass player was Paul D'Amour . He was replaced in 95 by another bass player . His name escapes me Justin Chancellor , that's his name , but he left the band . It wasn't the thing where he got kicked out for being whatever , it was more . I guess he wanted to play guitar . I mean , from what I'm reading at Wikipedia or other sources online , he wanted to play guitar in . I mean , from what I'm reading at Wikipedia or other sources online , he wanted to play guitar in another band , so he left From my understanding he's .

Speaker 3 3:30

You know he's since been playing with ministry , but as a basis , so I don't know what happened there , but nevertheless , you know , hey , he did a great job on this album .

Speaker 3 3:40

At least Interestingly like , their instruments are listed . Like , adam jones on guitar , it's listed as bastard . Bastard a meter , or best bastardometer , I guess , is how you'd say it . Um , james keenan listed as uh , mistress decatur , non-vocals , uh , the basis . Paul D'Amour listed as bottom feeder and Danny carries drums were listed as membrane of phone . So pretty creative with , uh , you know terms that they're using . Um , the last song , again disgustipated , I guess , a mashup between disgusted and constipated . Uh , I don't know what that's all about , but uh , I guess a mashup between disgusted and constipated .

Speaker 3 4:26

I don't know what that's all about , but nevertheless , you know we're going to get into the songs and we're going to listen to them . I love Tool . I think they're a great band . I really love A Perfect Circle . I used to listen to the two albums a lot , you know , back in the day and for some reason I didn't get into Tool early , but I was sort of like a late adapter to their catalog .

Speaker 3 4:51

They came out with some really good albums after this , but we want to focus on this one and you know , the more I listen to the tracks on this album , the more I like them , and I think all of you will as well . So , of course , stick around at the end , because we're going to listen to all the songs , as we always do , and at the end we're going to Tim and I are going to give you our top three and we're going to have fun along the way . We've got a ton of uh , you know sound clips from tool time , all of that stuff . Tim's putting the guitar away away . He's going to join me in a minute . We're going to yuck it up . We've got a bunch of sound clips . They're hilarious . Um , major james keenan , I guess , was at one point in time he was in the army and he was . We were reading somewhere I think it was on wikipedia where he was influenced by the movie stripes , which led him to go into the army , which I think is hilarious .

Speaker 6 5:42

Love that movie why would you go into the army , which I think is hilarious . Love that movie . Why would you go into the army , based on stripes ?

Speaker 3 5:48

I don't know , man , maybe it was Ox , you know , wanting to be the lean , mean fighting machine , that kind of thing I thought to myself join the army , it's free .

Speaker 7 5:58

So I figured while I'm here I'll lose a few pounds . And you got what a six to eight week training program here A real tough one A real tough one which is perfect for me . Which is perfect for me . I'm going to walk out of here a lean , mean fighting machine .

Speaker 3 6:12

So yeah , maybe that was his , this is definitely yeah .

Speaker 6 6:15

Army music almost yeah , lots of yeah , it's out there , it's yeah . I mean , I think , honestly , if this band wasn't a hard rock band , you know , maybe , just maybe they could have been like a jazz quartet sort of , maybe like spun it a little bit jazzy , I don't know .

Speaker 8 6:46

I don't think so , Tim .

Speaker 6 6:48

Well , I tried to play a couple of jazz , jazzy uh chord variations to the uh the power the power in your defense .

Speaker 3 6:57

I mean , these guys are so talented they could play it if they wanted to . It's just not what they do right , they don wanted to .

Speaker 6 7:02

It's just not what they do , right ? They don't want that . This is not their persona . They want more power . I want maybe less power . What do we need ? We're coming at you with chainsaws here and I think you know it's important to say we are going to be , you know , head and mouth above water . This , this is a strong undertow , a strong current , and I think we're just gonna try to stay right above the water here . Sure .

Speaker 3 7:29

Speaking of that , the artwork for the album cover . It's this weird ring kind of a thing .

Speaker 6 7:36

I don't know what it is . It's like a rib cage or something . Yeah , yeah , like a rib cage . It's a rib cage , I think .

Speaker 3 7:41

Yeah , it ended up becoming their . It's a rib cage , I think . Yeah , it ended up becoming their , like the band logo Kind of like the Starman with Rush . Starman oh , that's a David Bowie thing . I'm talking more about the logo for Rush , but I appreciate where you're going with that . Anyway , yeah , but yeah , any other thoughts , Any other anecdotes Before we get into the album ?

Speaker 6 8:06

I don't know . I think I enjoyed it . I'm not afraid . I could be afraid sometimes . Sometimes I'm pretty afraid I'm not afraid anymore and it is one louder and it's just a great , great album . If you're in the mood and you love hard rock and heavy metal , this is for you yeah , it is good .

Speaker 3 8:30

I mean it's good for that kind of thing . And you know what I mean . We're , I mean our thing . We're kind of upbeat . You know we like to yuck it up this is a really serious album I mean we're gonna so like before you get

Speaker 5 8:41

you know hating on us .

Speaker 3 8:43

We're trying to lighten the mood . We're trying to lighten the mood . We're trying to lighten the mood , but with the understanding that some of these songs are very serious .

Speaker 6 8:51

We know that .

Speaker 3 8:52

Yeah , I mean we want to apologize in advance . We're not here to shit on it either , you know , we just thought you know they need to lighten up a little bit , or , you know , maybe you might have it up a little bit . You know , maybe you might have fun looking at it from a different lens or whatever . But uh , and you know , I've seen Maynard James Keene . Maynard James Keene seems like a pretty cool guy , good sense of humor , yeah , yeah , he's . He's lighthearted , it seems .

Speaker 3 9:19

He's sung some really you , really you know songs that are tolerated through the uh , the generations here that could be a song that's tolerated for generations that's right , and he and he's done , he's done these songs well , speaking of which , intolerance is the name of the very first song , and it's a non-hit .

Speaker 6 9:38

So it's a non-hit , okay , I like your .

Speaker 3 9:41

You know I like the , I like that transition and if you listen closely , there's like a I don't know what that sound is . We probably should Crickets , something like that . It's going to start rocking in a second .

Speaker 6 9:54

Receipt paper .

Speaker 3 9:56

Beavis and Butthead style . There we go , it's like automatic . You can hear it . It'sley carey drums . Adam jones , rated 75th best guitar player in the rolling stone . He's got quite a a list oh yes accomplishments yeah film music video yeah yeah , the music videos he's done those all these guys are super talented put away the dagger , it's tolerable .

Speaker 6 10:48

I like the drums , right Drum and bass .

Speaker 10 10:57

Oh , bitch , you got jacked , bitch oh .

Speaker 6 11:21

The song's premise is that those who sit by idly while others commit crimes are just as bad as the criminals . Okay , it's noble . Dance , sing , wait , die Lie .

Speaker 3 11:40

They're all kind of the same . They're all the same , they overlap one another Right .

Speaker 6 12:03

I'm not innocent , you're not innocent .

Speaker 1 12:06

You're not innocent .

Speaker 2 12:10

No one's innocent I guess not .

Speaker 10 12:13

Oh bitch .

Speaker 1 12:16

How about us who are lactose intolerant ?

Speaker 5 12:25

What the fuck is he talking about ? That's a good question .

Speaker 6 12:50

Syncopated drum is very good . They make sure the metallic effects of the guitar are there .

Speaker 3 13:11

You should care , okay , well , if somebody's lying , cheating and stealing .

Speaker 6 13:16

I agree . You can't just be like bitch I don't care , Can't do that , Can't be that way , Don't tolerate , I will go down to hell .

Speaker 3 13:33

Maybe go down to hell or something , because they're not in a Sunday . By cheating steel and you're the damned , you're going down , down to hell .

Speaker 6 13:43

Well , let's keep our head above water here . Yeah , yeah .

Speaker 3 13:47

Don't get stuck in the undertow , Maybe lighting up on the line cheating , stealing you want to pace yourself with those things .

Speaker 6 13:57

What do you call the people that do that a lot ? A sociopath or something ? Yeah , that's a good word . Somebody that doesn't understand other people's feelings ? Yeah , yeah , saul will tell us all about that on song number two . Oh yeah , his feelings Nah , we have . I think the band's feelings are coming out . What are the feelings ? What do you think their feelings are ? It's going to call you out . All right , they're going to jack you up if you're not doing something , right ?

Speaker 7 14:35

My feelings are hurt . My feelings are hurt , okay .

Speaker 6 14:41

They're like that angry parent figure that's going to yell at you when you're doing something bad .

Speaker 3 14:50

Yeah , well , they're very committed to their values . I think even during this tour , they canceled some shows because the venues were owned by Scientology , some shows because the venues were owned by Scientology . And I guess , like no , I'm serious , like they're like their credo at the time , or still is probably is like something to the effect of uh , interesting .

Speaker 3 15:14

Yeah , um yeah , not supporting any type of an institution . That gets in the way of self development , right , there's something to that effect , and I , I mean I actually I actually admire and that gets in the way of self-development , right , there's something to that effect , and I mean I actually admire that about them .

Speaker 6 15:30

Yeah , you got to stand by your you gotta think for yourselves yeah , yeah , stick to your principles .

Speaker 3 15:38

Think for yourself . People just are sheep , you know they just go . Electric sheep , which is the name of their good . Look at the big brain on tim man . Oh yeah , exactly , electric sheep . That was a band that he was in . Uh , that danny carrie was in right and yeah , maynard oh , we'll look it up in a second . But yeah , electric Sheep was a band for the past .

Speaker 9 16:00

I was in Lovely Lads .

Speaker 3 16:01

That's right , All right . Shout out to Nigel Tufnell from Spinal Tap . That was a Spinal Tap-y kind of a moment I was in .

Speaker 5 16:08

Idle Sheep or .

Speaker 3 16:09

Electric Sheep . I was in Lovely Lads All right . Next song Prison Sex you said it not me . Secondary . Yeah , all right , I guess this is about serious stuff about child abuse , but just the term prison sex . We couldn't help ourselves . We've got a bunch of clips in here . Forgive us ,

Song Analysis

Speaker 3 16:34

here we go . It's a great song . It's a hit , so out of the discussion , but we'll listen to it .

Speaker 6 16:56

It's about the cynical nature of abuse . Yeah , it's about the cynical nature of abuse .

Speaker 3 17:03

Yeah , that beginning sounds like a Driving and Crying song . We don't have to get into it . They came out around the same time Driving and Crying .

Speaker 9 17:11

Yeah .

Speaker 6 17:16

No no , no , not Crying . What does Vestal mean ?

Speaker 3 17:20

Uh , it's , that's a beautiful term . Holy Okay , yeah .

Speaker 6 17:38

Miracle .

Speaker 3 17:39

It's catchy , it's a catchy metal song here I like it , it's not just scream , your head off . Oh pure , that still is pure .

Speaker 2 18:08

Okay , I want to smell man what ?

Speaker 7 18:23

What we're going to federal . Pound me in the ass prison .

Speaker 6 18:27

Oh , it's Tim's time ? I don't think so .

Speaker 3 18:34

That wasn't me . Oh , okay , okay , yeah .

Speaker 6 18:43

No , I'll take the fall for that . I would hate to go to prison . It would be horrible .

Speaker 11 18:49

Well .

Speaker 9 18:49

I agree .

Speaker 3 18:55

I think it'd be worse for you ? I would . Your feet are a little softer than mine .

Speaker 11 19:00

You throw a little rouge on you , tuck your sack back to your game .

Speaker 2 19:05

No .

Speaker 6 19:11

I did spend the night in the slammer , actually .

Speaker 4 19:14

Drinking on the beach , yeah .

Speaker 6 19:16

Drinking on the beach past hours . It's not public property after hours . Ah yeah , people do crazy stuff on the beach and they ruin it for everybody . Is there like a beach jail ?

Speaker 2 19:33

oh no , it's a jail jail it's like pounding me in the ass jail oh , I need an adult Jail , jail .

Speaker 7 19:42

It's like pounding me in the ass Jail I need an adult I don't want to go to any prison .

Speaker 11 19:58

I have a couple fractions of zeros filed off into a private bank account . You throw a little rouge on ya .

Speaker 3 20:46

Tuck your sack back . Oh , how do you make that funny ? I can't say I've had that combination of those three things on my hands ever in my life . I'm not saying that with pride or shame . You're not a witness . Yeah , I say it with thanks that I've never been put in that position . I never thought of it that way , but now I'm starting to feel bad about those earlier clips .

Speaker 6 21:25

Danny Carey said it will annoy a lot of people , which is half the fun .

Speaker 3 21:30

Yeah , it's provocative , I get it . But , what's more provocative ? That or the actual um , yeah , um , molesting of a child ? That's . I mean , that is the most uh , insulting , uh , I could see why that angers people . Yeah , I have . No , it didn't annoy me , I thought it was . I applaud them for it , you know right I mean even though it was graphic and it it kind of , you know , like the imagery of , like the stuff on his hand .

Speaker 3 21:59

That's like you know it's uncomfortable , but maybe it needs to be put in that way in order to you know , just to you know , put it into perspective , how , how bad it must feel for the , for the abused . So you know , I , I , yeah I didn't , so anyway for sure . Going on to the next song , this is Sober , far and away the most listened to and popular song on the album , this one and one . We just heard nine hits . Let's take a listen .

Speaker 2 22:29

Rolling doobies .

Speaker 6 22:31

Okay , cali Sober .

Speaker 3 22:35

Yeah , that is Cali Sober . Yeah , that is Cali Sober . That's right , we got the lyrics right in front of us . I remember , okay , this might put a whole new page out on this song .

Speaker 6 22:59

for me this could be a jazzy number . Throw a little little ham and eggs on the griddle .

Speaker 3 23:07

That little jazz flute would be good on this too .

Speaker 2 23:09

Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do .

Speaker 4 23:14

Ba-ba-dee-da-ba-ba .

Speaker 2 23:17

We got it now .

Speaker 3 23:22

That's baby music , that's it .

Speaker 9 23:37

Wait just a minute , wait a minute .

Speaker 3 23:59

Whistle the thing in that's like why is she doing something about ?

Speaker 6 24:08

all of the Stuff , the bad stuff .

Speaker 3 24:10

Yeah , or like just the drinking which leads to a ton of bad stuff . That's true . I don't think it's an unfair question .

Speaker 7 24:25

No .

Speaker 3 24:26

I mean he didn't have to put the fucking in there , yeah , but but he made his point . Never was .

Speaker 9 24:32

Yeah .

Speaker 6 24:34

Even Jesus was like let's get these people some wine sometimes , right , that's true , the winemaker I mean .

Speaker 3 24:45

Or Dionysus , depending on which .

Speaker 6 24:56

Shout out to the tobacco chewers out there Getting a little buzz on yeah , let's stop that shit . Yeah , pack a Pack a nice .

Speaker 3 25:07

Yeah , copenhagen , that's more of a dip . The chew is like the leaf right .

Speaker 6 25:12

Oh the leaf , is that stuff's strong . Straight up Packin' lips , that stuff's strong .

Speaker 3 25:21

Straight up Back and lips . I've been sick , just dizzy From your chew .

Speaker 6 25:28

Oh yeah , faint in a field Too effed up on chew . Oh yeah , throwing up , yeah , yeah , that's the worst when you're like Young Right , yeah , I don't say how old , yeah , throwing up , yeah , yeah , that's the worst when you're like young , right , yeah , I don't see how old . No , you don't know what it is . Try it , try it , man , try it .

Speaker 4 25:49

People are always peer-pressuring .

Speaker 2 25:57

Ah , that feels , that feels better .

Speaker 9 26:02

I am just an imbecile . I will only complicate you Trust in me and fall as well . I will find a center in you . I will chew it up and leave . Trust me , trust me , trust me , trust me , trust me . Why can't we not be sober ?

Speaker 6 26:31

I just want to not think further . Why can't we sleep for ever ? Set those alarms ? People Set a mental alarm , yeah .

Speaker 3 26:49

I mean we can be California soldiers . I don't know .

Speaker 6 26:54

And we can set our alarms by the power of our minds .

Speaker 3 26:58

Okay , yeah , but like Kramer , he's like he's by the power of our minds . We have a look-brainer , it's like 630 tomorrow .

Speaker 6 27:04

Let's go , all right .

Speaker 3 27:17

I got it set . Ow ow , ow , ow , shout out to the tool designers out there . All right , that was a good one . What do we got next ?

Speaker 11 27:35

Well , isn't that special .

Speaker 6 27:37

Ah that was . This is bottom . We got the bottom .

Speaker 3 27:42

All right , yeah . Next song . It's called Bottom Bottom , and no sign though that . Oh , I like that . It's a lot of pissing and moaning in this song .

Speaker 9 28:46

I take head , shoulders , knees and toes .

Speaker 4 29:13

Okay , you can have those Fed .

Speaker 6 29:15

You know you've got to be fed , but you need to take the whole apple . You can't be stealing the apple when you pierced the skin of a piece of fruit .

Speaker 1 29:26

You bought the whole fruit , not a third of an apple , not a half of a banana .

Speaker 11 29:40

I am dead inside .

Speaker 3 29:45

Shout out to Michael Scott .

Speaker 2 29:52

He called the shit .

Speaker 1 29:55

He called the shit Shout out to Pat Gilmore .

Speaker 3 30:01

All these , all these movies Kind of came out around that .

Speaker 5 30:03

Yeah well , until this bill is paid , the food court Is closed .

Speaker 6 30:07

He's lying , he's cheating , he's stealing your fruit . Well , I hope his shit is , you know , density . He's Eating a lot of fruit . So I like this little solo here . Whoa , it's got me in trance . It's trance style man .

Speaker 3 30:47

It is kinda cool .

Speaker 9 30:52

If I let you , you would make me destroy myself .

Speaker 5 31:01

The fuck is he talking about ?

Speaker 9 31:03

Fuck it . This is where I tune out .

Speaker 3 31:14

It's tolerable A lot of religion in this .

Speaker 9 31:25

My feelings are hurt .

Speaker 11 31:28

There's no choice but to confront you , to engage you .

Speaker 9 31:39

To erase you . I've gone to great lengths to expand my threshold of pain .

Speaker 5 31:45

What the fuck is he talking about ? What the fuck ?

Speaker 11 31:54

I am dead inside .

Speaker 3 31:57

I love that , michael Scott , I am dead inside . I love that , michael Scott , I am dead inside .

Speaker 2 32:06

We're live . Come on , we're going streaky . We're live . Come on , woo Woo , I'm not afraid anymore .

Speaker 8 32:48

Well , it's one night , isn't it ?

Speaker 3 32:51

Shout out to the Donnie Darko fans . Shout out to the Spinal Tap fans .

Speaker 6 32:58

Church Lady , church Lady , where you at .

Speaker 2 33:01

Satan .

Speaker 6 33:03

Boo Satan .

Speaker 3 33:14

That was a good use of the grunt there .

Speaker 2 33:37

I love that . You're a damn man . You keep digging .

Speaker 6 33:43

You'll find something . Shut the holes , fans holes fans . Still going . Hatred keeps it alive . What ?

Speaker 3 34:22

Now they're rocking .

Speaker 10 34:30

Oh , bitch , you got jacked bitch .

Speaker 1 34:36

Bitch , I don't care oh wait , just a minute shot brad hamilton oh , I'm hang gliding , honey , take a good picture , I'm dead .

Speaker 4 34:58

That was a good one .

Speaker 3 35:01

I was thinking the song , the bottom was sweet .

Speaker 6 35:04

Yeah , the bottom was really good . That was good man .

Speaker 3 35:06

I mean .

Speaker 6 35:07

Yeah .

Speaker 3 35:08

On many levels I'm digging it All right . So we got to go . Crawl Away is the next one . So this is .

Speaker 6 35:14

Crawl Away . Yeah , do what I say , just may .

Speaker 3 35:24

Was the ass flute .

Speaker 6 35:27

What do you say ?

Speaker 10 35:31

Mom say that happiness is from magic rays of sunshine that come down when you're feeling blue .

Speaker 2 35:36

Oh , and I come down when you're feeling blue .

Speaker 10 35:44

How about I just go eat some hay ?

Speaker 6 35:50

This one's angsty as well , you know it builds up into something here .

Speaker 3 35:57

You think they tuned the guitar in the downward D . What is it called ?

Speaker 6 36:02

I think all these songs are in drop D . It really helps a singer with a low voice . The one-finger power chords the lower octave jams . I like it .

Speaker 3 36:14

I think it makes it easier to play it . It adds a little hair to it .

Speaker 6 36:19

It just may . I can make things out of clay . Listen to what I say that rake was . I was just putting it back where it belonged , in the woods with his friends .

Speaker 9 36:39

In the woods with his friends .

Speaker 2 36:51

It's good bass work .

Speaker 6 36:53

This is classic , Like deep purple riffs right here .

Speaker 3 37:00

Yeah , I like it . That's good , well used . I do . I like their balance of grunge and metal on this . They do it really well Alice in Chains did it well too .

Speaker 6 37:26

I thought it's a little stripped away for this band , I think In a way .

Speaker 5 37:40

Lay by the Bay . It's a little harsh .

Speaker 6 37:44

That was a good one . Okay , yeah , paul T Moore is crushing it on this one . Agreed , he didn't want to play the bass , but he ended up playing bass anyway , I know For the other band . Yeah , the other band .

Speaker 3 38:06

I don't want to say that they're a lesser band , because I mean , I'm not really familiar with Ministry .

Speaker 6 38:10

Yeah , no Ministry .

Speaker 3 38:16

We could always do one of their albums , or not , depending on your mood . I don't know I'll have to listen to it .

Speaker 2 38:24

I don't even know if I want to do it .

Speaker 10 38:26

We just made , we just made .

Speaker 1 38:30

How about I just go eat some , hay ? Oh no .

Speaker 9 38:36

We suck again . This is love , this is my love for you .

Speaker 6 38:43

This is my love for you . Whoa metal scrapage .

Speaker 2 38:47

This is my love for you . This is my love for you .

Speaker 3 38:53

This is my love for you . It's a little less melodic than the last one .

Speaker 6 39:01

Holy crap , they just went up to chromatic . This is like kind of a time signature Balls to the wall . Time signature 16th notes out of the wazoo , 30 second notes . Yeah , 34 over 34 on the floor .

Speaker 5 39:21

This is like a you'll pay listen to what I say , yeah .

Speaker 3 39:37

I don't mean to be crude or anything , but this is sort of like an orgy of notes . I want to All right that one .

Speaker 6 39:49

What the fuck is he talking about ?

Speaker 5 39:53

I can make things out of clay . What the fuck is he talking about there ?

Speaker 6 39:58

you go .

Speaker 7 40:06

Oh , if you don't stay .

Speaker 6 40:07

I might my feelings , might my feelings . You heard , If you're going to go , then go .

Speaker 2 40:10

If you're going to spew , spew in this , I don't know what you're trying to say you don't want to play .

Speaker 1 40:18

What you want and what you need . Don't make a fuck to me . Shut the fuck up . I didn't say anything .

Speaker 8 40:35

Oh , whoa , whoa .

Speaker 3 40:41

Okay , that may have shot up to number one for me . I know , I see .

Speaker 6 40:44

I mean .

Speaker 1 40:45

Shut the fuck up , Donnie All right this one is Swamp .

Speaker 3 40:51

Song that was for always . Swamp Song . Oh gosh .

Speaker 6 40:57

Getting swampy Undertow in the swamp is something Swamp undertow why don't you watch when you stumble in ?

Speaker 9 41:12

You ain't need it for going in .

Speaker 7 41:19

You ain't need it for going in . His walk is sticking . He thinks I get locked in . He's sure stupid . The lid's your end fucker . My feelings are hurt , he thinks I get locked in .

Speaker 1 41:32

He's sure a dumbass . The lid's your end , fucker .

Speaker 7 41:39

I hope it sucks you down , J-Homer . You sure do suck tonight , Jay Homer you sure do suck tonight .

Speaker 11 41:59

Yeah , suck like a fox , ha ha ha , ha , ha ha .

Speaker 6 42:05

Oh man , that's just the best . This fog is thick , oh no .

Speaker 3 42:30

We suck again . They're really angry at this guy man . They just want him to fucking die in quicksand you know .

Speaker 6 42:45

Yeah , that's a horrible way to go . You need good calves . Good calves to dance in some quicksand .

Speaker 9 42:49

You know yeah .

Speaker 8 42:56

I take head , shoulders , knees and toes , Knees and toes .

Speaker 6 43:04

Well , you're in the knee deep . You're knee deep at this point here , probably about halfway .

Speaker 1 43:11

Oh no , we suck again . Oh no , we suck again .

Speaker 7 43:22

Jay Homer , you sure do suck tonight .

Speaker 11 43:27

Yeah , suck like a fuck ,

Musical Analysis and Commentary

Speaker 11 43:29

or you'll pay .

Speaker 6 43:29

I like this little bit here . This is good Taking us . Yeah , it's very froggy , Spacey froggy yeah , it's like froggy , stacy froggy .

Speaker 3 44:01

Yeah , it's like frog metal .

Speaker 10 44:13

Death band can't breathe , oh no . Oh no , breathing is a safe and effective way Of fighting death and death related symptoms .

Speaker 4 44:42

Whoa , whoa , Take it easy champ .

Speaker 3 44:54

Yeah , I think I would need to sit .

Speaker 6 44:58

the next couple plays off . My ears hurt after that one , I know .

Speaker 9 45:05

This is pretty hard .

Speaker 2 45:13

I'm tired of this , Grandpa .

Speaker 6 45:23

Grandpa , hey , listen , sport . I'm sorry , I know . Yeah , we'll keep , yeah , keep it going . No , keep it up . Head , shoulders , knees and toes Waiting me . Oh , man Calling , name calling .

Speaker 3 45:47

Oh , he's been calling him a belligerent fucker . The whole song .

Speaker 7 46:00

My feelings are hurt , boy .

Speaker 11 46:11

I am dead inside .

Speaker 3 46:13

After that , one geez A little palate cleanser . Maybe that was more than a little harsh .

Speaker 6 46:20

Yeah , we need some steely Dan to .

Speaker 5 46:26

No , we'll keep power through .

Speaker 6 46:27

I think we need some . What do we need ? A little more power . What do we need More power ?

Speaker 3 46:49

All right , this is Undertow the song . Right ? You can't get sucked into that undertow .

Speaker 6 46:55

You know tread Now . We got quicksand , we got water yeah , a lot of . There's a mountain falling on you , A natural disaster . There's a volcano erupting Run .

Speaker 2 47:06

Yeah .

Speaker 6 47:12

There's some prison convicts .

Speaker 3 47:20

There's a lot of mouth opening and sucking , not swallowing , swallowing .

Speaker 4 47:32

I feel dirty .

Speaker 8 47:39

Shut up , shut up , shut up , shut up , shut up , shut up , shut the fuck up , donnie , I take head , shoulders , knees and toes . Shut the fuck up .

Speaker 6 48:04

Whoa , Whoa . They could end their song for me . Oh man , we're not even a third of the way in . I don't know how these guys have the energy to do this . This is insane .

Speaker 3 48:19

It does . It takes a lot of energy to get caught in it . Yeah .

Speaker 6 48:23

You got to get some chamomile and some rose petal water .

Speaker 3 48:31

Well if you need that extra push over the cliff in your workouts put these on the headphones . Shout out to , by the way , shout out to the bench pressers out there .

Speaker 6 48:42

Oh yeah Shout out .

Speaker 1 48:44

I'm exhausted .

Speaker 10 48:45

I'm exhausted .

Speaker 6 49:07

Shout out to the Swallows so comfortable . That's good . I'm glad you're comfortable .

Speaker 3 49:23

I think it's the drums that are wearing brown Shut up .

Speaker 8 49:33

No , I'm serious . I take head , shoulders , knees and toes .

Speaker 6 49:38

knees and toes Okay you can have those Ow .

Speaker 8 50:06

Well , it's one louder , isn't it ?

Speaker 1 50:12

What ? Oh wait just a minute , I'm back .

Speaker 11 50:43

I can hear it Take it easy , champ .

Speaker 6 50:46

Undertow . I got it . There's a current yeah .

Speaker 11 50:53

The undertow that hasn't seen the light . Life just keeps happening Out of the undertow .

Speaker 6 51:15

You are out of the area .

Speaker 8 51:24

How does he keep those ?

Speaker 11 51:25

notes . Life is like hey , guess what ?

Speaker 6 51:28

I don't know Guess what . We're going to have . Another shred session , brother . Just more , more shred .

Speaker 11 51:39

And you're like what ? And it's like BAM More life . It just never stops giving you more life .

Speaker 3 52:00

That's a guy's name , theo . Shout out to Theo , I love this guy . It more life , that's okay .

Speaker 6 52:02

That's a guy's name , theo .

Speaker 3 52:03

Shout out to Theo I love this guy .

Speaker 11 52:04

That's life . Hey , you want another scoop of life , boy ?

Speaker 3 52:10

All right . So let's get another scoop of Tool here . This is Four degrees , Four degrees . It's like another rule of post-grunge songs they always have to have a sitar with it and then they start rocking out . So this is where I'm suspecting this is going .

Speaker 6 52:36

Here we go . Sitars are metal man yeah .

Speaker 3 52:40

I like the transition . It's like ding ding , ding ding and then go down to the drop D .

Speaker 6 52:46

I thought this was going to be their rock . Ballad from the intro in my notes and then , within 20 seconds , they just again flip the pull the magic carpet ride from underneath your feet .

Speaker 3 53:00

Sitar to drop D .

Speaker 6 53:01

It's a it'sa class but you're calm beneath the castles . So , cavern treasures , let's go digging I'm tired of this , Grandpa .

Speaker 1 53:19

That's too damn bad . You keep digging Bring it out .

Speaker 6 53:26

Bring it out and take you back in A lot of yous and won'ts and like the way .

Speaker 3 53:57

I like how he plays the chords , sort of like Slides and the French .

Speaker 6 54:00

Definitely very skilled in their metal shred .

Speaker 1 54:13

Well , isn't that special , you love ?

Speaker 5 54:17

to feel afraid . Can you let me show you another way ?

Speaker 2 54:27

I feel so , kill what you want to Save what's left and needed . Save your love . It's just too short to be true . The lyrics are kind of vague , but they're cool .

Speaker 6 54:40

I'm too short to forget . The lyrics are kind of vague , but they're cool . I'm too short . Sometimes I need a step ladder . Yeah , I'm just too short there , you know . Now , just come back running . Ah , you don't have to run . Shout out to the runners . Yep , shout out to the runners . It won't be long Until you increase or decrease your mile time . Yeah , your PO2 max .

Speaker 3 55:07

I like the guitar part right here . This is I like the guitar part in here .

Speaker 6 55:23

This is where they could have a little jazz solo , I think maybe .

Speaker 3 55:28

Hey , this room , yeah , for a little jazz ?

Speaker 8 55:31

I don't think so , Tim .

Speaker 6 55:38

Okay what he's singing , kind of like a minstrel , like a renaissance fest yeah , it's the proggy part of it .

Speaker 10 55:51

What do we need ? More power .

Speaker 6 56:02

All right Tim , the tool man Taylor .

Speaker 8 56:11

I'm a tool man ? I don't think so , Tim .

Speaker 6 56:16

I am , I can deal with a screwdriver , screw gun but are you a tool ?

Speaker 3 56:25

man of the band tool man band yeah , are you still the tool man when it comes to the band ?

Speaker 6 56:32

or what we're listening to . I would say I'm not afraid of them .

Speaker 10 56:35

I used to be .

Speaker 6 56:35

I used to be afraid of them . I've seen that there's nothing to be afraid of them . Uh , I've seen that there's nothing to be afraid of . Um right , no , I , but I will neither . You're not in the pocket . I am not in the pocket , but I like certain aspects and songs . Yeah , yeah , it'll take some time , some tool time , for me to be a Tim the Toolman Taylor , yet Fair enough Ow . A bit solo here oh they're tight , see . Oh , ow .

Speaker 3 57:34

Little bass .

Speaker 11 57:36

Come on , guys .

Speaker 7 57:43

Jam it into life . I love lamp .

Speaker 6 57:53

Ooh so strong .

Speaker 9 58:10

Just like I was a lovely lad .

Speaker 3 58:16

Alright , where are we at man ? We got Flood , okay .

Speaker 6 58:20

We got flood and Disgustipated . Yeah , that's the last one .

Speaker 3 58:24

So there's a couple tracks away from that . Granted , this one's a seven-minute song , the other one's a 15-minute song , but you know , we can truncate it . We can truncate it . This is kind of Black Sabbath-y .

Speaker 6 58:48

Yeah , it is . I do like their intros .

Speaker 3 59:04

I mean it could be a little jazzier . No , this is cool when you're in the mood for it . This is like a . This is like a strip club song for herman munsters .

Speaker 5 59:46

Stripper sister what the fuck is he talking about ?

Speaker 3 59:49

I don't know , I don't know what I'm talking about . All right , I don't know what I'm listening to at this point , and how is this related to a flood ? I'm waiting for an explanation .

Speaker 6 1:00:10

Oh , it's tolerable . All right , Danny .

Speaker 4 1:00:12

Danny .

Speaker 10 1:00:19

Oh , bitch , you got jacked bitch .

Speaker 7 1:00:36

We're going to federal pound me in the ass prison .

Speaker 2 1:00:47

Rolling doobies .

Speaker 3 1:00:51

If the flood comes ? We're just playing sound .

Speaker 6 1:01:00

I don't even know what part of the song we're in . This is still the intro . Yeah , this is crazy . We still know nothing about the flood . Why Is the mountain still falling on us ? I don't know . Is the flood a metaphor ? Did somebody get these convicts ?

Speaker 3 1:01:21

Our lyrics getting sung right now . I can't even tell .

Speaker 2 1:01:30

This is heavy .

Speaker 6 1:01:35

This is heavy boy .

Speaker 3 1:01:38

Yeah , they're trying to make this , this the heaviest song ever , of all time , of all time this has to be heavy the flood .

Speaker 6 1:01:46

I mean , yeah , it makes sense Making the undercurrents even stronger .

Speaker 3 1:01:56

Why this didn't win a Grammy is beyond me . Well , no , it isn't . I totally see why .

Speaker 6 1:02:07

Grammy . Is it mine , my Grammy ?

Speaker 3 1:02:20

Well , I would claim what it's mine little foreshadowing here .

Speaker 6 1:02:30

Same , god damn it .

Speaker 3 1:02:35

This is a four clocking in at four minutes yeah , it's like how are they going to get through all this in less than two minutes left , or less than three minutes , three and a half minutes .

Speaker 2 1:02:49

I'm exhausted , I am All I know .

Speaker 6 1:03:06

All I believe , crumbling images , scramble to reach higher ground , sanity , climbing to a new place . The moving , the moving is tough . You know it is . I don't like it . San Fran , the housing market's crazy there , yeah .

Speaker 3 1:03:45

You're going to move there .

Speaker 6 1:03:47

I don't know . It is very beautiful . From what I've heard , yeah , it is .

Speaker 4 1:03:52

I've been there .

Speaker 3 1:03:53

I never have been there .

Speaker 2 1:03:54

I haven't been there since .

Speaker 6 1:03:57

Ground is not a rock . I thought it to be . You're not . You're almost there .

Speaker 2 1:04:16

You're not Two damn men .

Speaker 6 1:04:32

And they're all syncopated , they playing together , kind of . This sounds a little bit like Sober , doesn't it ? Yeah , this sounds a little bit like Sober , doesn't it ?

Speaker 4 1:04:51

I'm just someone coming in on me . I'm just your last time you put me on the stand .

Speaker 3 1:05:11

It is , it's a character . It is . It's a list of the songs .

Speaker 6 1:05:16

It's in this album , like from beginning to end .

Speaker 3 1:05:25

It's tough , you know , but it's good . I mean , yeah , I know what I'm listening to . It's like incredible . It's just like listening to the whole . It's like more life . It's like that more life guy right there , danny , carries drums . I mean , I'm a drum guy . I love the drums .

Speaker 2 1:05:49

Well , it's one louder , isn't it ?

Speaker 3 1:06:01

Well , it's one louder . Yeah , I'm going to have to go back to that .

Speaker 11 1:06:09

So here's the last song . Disgustipated Hi Tim the Tool man , taylor , and you all know my assistant Al this land is boar land .

Speaker 3 1:06:18

That was Tim . That wasn't me . That was Al . No , that was Al . That was me . That was Al . That

Album Track Ranking Discussion

Speaker 3 1:06:22

was Al .

Speaker 6 1:06:22

We've got that was the Tim Atul band . We've got some Saul 8 soundtrack here .

Speaker 3 1:06:34

Yeah .

Speaker 6 1:06:44

Rock and roll .

Speaker 3 1:06:48

Well , yeah , in the line of thought of Saul .

Speaker 7 1:06:53

My feelings are hurt . My feelings are hurt , okay .

Speaker 3 1:06:56

We heard you the first time , thank you .

Speaker 6 1:07:01

Oh , is that a calf ? A little milk .

Speaker 1 1:07:06

How about us who are lactose intolerant ?

Speaker 6 1:07:09

Okay , Christopher , you'reant . Okay , christopher , you're back . Yeah , and the angel of the Lord came unto me , snatching me up from my place of slumber and took me on high Sounds like and I'm still , as I walk through the spaces between the air itself .

Speaker 5 1:07:28

What the fuck is he talking about ? Look , we're on the edge of a vast , far blend of our own Midwest . And as what the fuck is he ?

Speaker 6 1:07:33

talking about . This is like some Les Claypool stuff going on .

Speaker 3 1:07:46

It does sound like him , but With the megaphone . Yeah , reverend Maynard , are you crying this ?

Speaker 6 1:08:09

is like a slam poetry hour For the end of the album .

Speaker 3 1:08:21

Yeah , these are all like yeah , the holocaust metaphors , or the the vegetable metaphors for the holocaust . It's clearly like the vegetable metaphor is for the Holocaust . It's clearly anti-religion .

Speaker 6 1:08:38

The credits on the album read Phone message .

Speaker 2 1:08:44

Bill the landlord .

Speaker 6 1:08:51

Disgustipated is from 2.33 to 6.45 . Right , right , apparently , crickets . There's crickets and a phone message as well .

Speaker 11 1:09:04

Just life just keeps happening . Life is like hey , guess what , and you're like what , and it's like more life . It just never stops giving you more life . That's life , hey , you want another scoop of life , boy .

Speaker 6 1:09:26

Okay , now we're back to animal noises yeah , noises . Disgustipated his first coin in a Popeye comic book in the 1930s to express a combined feeling of disgust and exasperation with the situation . I'm exhausted involving olive oil . Shout out to Chris Berman , since the situation has obviously been resolved by Popeye eating spinach , we could conclude that this song was intended to promote vegetarianism . What , oh , because they're talking about ? Maybe , like the meat industry ?

Speaker 3 1:10:16

What Are they vegetarians ?

Speaker 6 1:10:21

They might be man . A lot of metalheads are vegetarians , Surprisingly .

Speaker 3 1:10:29

Yeah , that is interesting . I didn't know that either .

Speaker 6 1:10:30

My one roommate in college was a metalhead Surprisingly . Yeah , that is interesting . I didn't know that either . My one roommate in college was a metalhead and only ate veggie patties Freezer veggie patties .

Speaker 3 1:10:43

I think it was a value play . It was college .

Speaker 4 1:10:46

That's true .

Speaker 6 1:10:50

So much sodium .

Speaker 3 1:10:55

You know I get that life beats on life . I like that . I'm kind of afraid oh , bitch , you got jacked . Bitch , I need an adult .

Speaker 10 1:11:11

I'm kind of afraid yeah , oh , bitch , you got jacked bitch .

Speaker 7 1:11:14

I need an adult .

Speaker 1 1:11:24

Wait just a minute . Does anybody knock anymore ? Yeah , anymore .

Speaker 6 1:11:38

I'll take manslaughter one . Put the deal on the table . Jack Some law and order . I've been watching way too much law and order .

Speaker 2 1:11:46

I don't want to go to any prison . Feeds are live .

Speaker 6 1:12:03

Alright , well , I think this one's not going to be in my top three .

Speaker 3 1:12:11

Well , you know , during , well , this is probably this is going to dissipate , and then for a number of minutes it's going to go just run and then maybe get to the end listen to the end If not , that's fine too . It's just this . It's just . It's just like a . What the fuck is he talking about ?

Speaker 6 1:12:29

There's only just a minute left , just a little queer .

Speaker 3 1:12:33

It's just like a minute of squeaking . So over that Take it easy , champ .

Speaker 1 1:12:45

Maybe sit the next couple of days out .

Speaker 3 1:12:50

Oh yeah , so they have like the crickets Well . Well , this would be kind of cool yeah within the crickets we can give our top three yes yes , yeah , what do you say um ? I just may , all right , no , seriously , what's your number ?

Speaker 6 1:13:06

I am going to go get the list up here . Um , yeah , let me see , uh , I really like , uh , the ones that I liked were swamp song . Oh really , I think that's gonna be my number . No , I'm gonna say , uh , number one in or number three , sorry , uh , intolerable , my number three intolerance , intolerance .

Speaker 3 1:13:38

Yes , the first song that was yeah it was good .

Speaker 6 1:13:44

Yeah , lie , cheat and steal . That's my , that's my three .

Speaker 3 1:13:49

No , that's a good three . I'm going to go deep here . I'm going to maybe go bottom .

Speaker 6 1:14:00

Oh , okay .

Speaker 3 1:14:02

It just had that beat to it . It contrasted well with crawl away , yeah , and uh , I , I just uh . The musicianship was very like it was excellent , so I'm gonna go with all right my number two .

Speaker 6 1:14:25

I'm going crawl away because it had a good placement . You know , it's sort of instead of an up and down round and round , it was like just like a little bit just left and right and then up and down , you know what I mean yeah , um , yeah , yeah not to be too technical no no , that's fair like a roller coaster ride , you know I'm gonna go .

Speaker 3 1:14:49

Four percent is my number two because it had . It was a change of pace , it had some cool chords in it and um degree four degree yeah , four degree yes , that was a good one .

Speaker 6 1:15:02

Yes , I thought it was take it all away yeah , it was a little bit .

Speaker 3 1:15:05

It was like much different all the way in yeah exactly yeah yeah , uh .

Speaker 6 1:15:11

Well then , swamp song is my number one . That was the one that did , like the that really fast paced I mean , yeah , because of that sort of novelty aspect , uh , and maybe for me to score some points with the metal heads , uh , I'm going Swamp . Song number one .

Speaker 3 1:15:32

Yeah , it was really impressive . Yeah , technical , even if you don't like the song , they were so in the pocket . The musicianship was wild . Yeah , it was wild . It was very wild and that's the spectacle of it is that they can do this at the same time and be in total sync like that .

Speaker 4 1:15:49

Yeah .

Speaker 3 1:15:50

And that was what was mind-blowing about it . Um , but I , I I knew you were gonna put that in there , so I just that's an asterisk for me okay but what was like a better song , I thought , was crawl away like the one yes your , your number two ? Um was , it was my number one , just uh , I was blown away . I was blown away by a lot of these songs . I hated them and liked them at the same time .

Speaker 3 1:16:18

They were hitting nerves , and just the lyrics . Crawl Away was just the best example of them being in the pocket . For me , swamp Song was just too over the top . I didn't want to overshadow how good crawl away

Metal Appreciation and Future Plans

Speaker 3 1:16:34

was . Yeah , so uh , I'll , yeah , I'll just like leave it at that , but um , yeah , I have a a deeper appreciation for the band after listening to this one for sure , yeah yeah any uh last thoughts well , I I'm not afraid , I can keep .

Speaker 6 1:16:51

I can keep the metal going , I think .

Speaker 3 1:16:55

We'll keep the metal going for another episode or two . We're going to check it out . We've got a good one coming . I don't want to spoil it , but we're going to throw some metal at you .

Speaker 6 1:17:08

Some more metal , some more metal . You think we're done with metal . We've got more metal Just at you . Some more metal , some more metal . Yeah , I think we're done with metal . We've got more metal . Just keep more metal .

Speaker 7 1:17:16

More metal .

Speaker 3 1:17:17

All right , take care , rock on Bye .