The Greatest Non Hits

Live: Throwing Copper

Chris & Tim Season 3 Episode 11

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They say music is the thread that weaves through the fabric of our lives, and 'Throwing Copper' by Live is one of those albums that stitch together memories for so many of us. So we've cranked the amps to 11 and riffed on everything from the roaring success of hits like "I Alone" to the intricate subtleties of the deeper cuts that deserve the spotlight just as much. We'll be your guides on this rock odyssey, sharing the quirky anecdotes and personal connections that make this album more than just a collection of tracks—it's a soundtrack to our lives.

Strap in for a wild ride as we gallop through the soundscape of 'Throwing Copper,' juxtaposing the spiritual with the profane, the profound with the playful. We'll navigate the serendipitous maze of rock and roll, from the captivating to the comical, and everything in between. With every chord and chorus, we find common ground, shared laughter, and the occasional side-splitting cultural references that tie us all together. Trust us, it's not just the music that will have you coming back for more—it's the camaraderie, the chaos, and the sheer joy of these musical musings.

As the final notes of our session ring out, we take a moment to reflect on a track that continues to resonate with us, compelling us to hit the replay button. We share these reflections with heartfelt candor and a dash of the unexpected—because, let's face it, who knows what's going to happen when the mics are live? We're grateful you've tuned in and hope you'll carry a piece of 'Throwing Copper' with you, just as we do. Remember, music is the journey, and we're all just fellow travelers here. Stay tuned, rock on, and take care until we spin the next record together.

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Speaker 1:

We'll do it live. Fuck it, do it live. I'll write it and we'll do it live. Fucking thing sucks. 5, 4, 3. That's tomorrow and that is it for us today. I'm Bill O'Reilly. Thanks again for watching. We'll leave you with Sting and a cut off his new album Take it away.

Speaker 2:

Alright, thank you for listening to the Greatest Non-Hits. I'm Chris, and playing the damnit Otter Creek from Live's Throwing Copper album is my co-host, him, and we want to thank you for joining us today. We're going to listen to Throwing Copper, a true masterpiece from 1994. It was Live's second full studio album and this is a huge album for them. This is what brought them to fame and fortune, released in April, I think April 24th of 1994. I think it's from I'll have to check my source later as well, but nevertheless, masterful album and a lot of great non-hits too.

Speaker 2:

This is a type of an album that this show is completely about. It's songs that are buried beneath other great songs and they don't get their day in the spotlight. So, as always, we're going to listen to this whole album. We're going to have a blast. We've got tons of super funny clips. There's a lot of material on this album for a show that we do here. So we're going to have a lot of fun and at the end, of course, we're going to rank our top three non-hits. So perhaps maybe this might be the time to define the hits and just kind of bring people up to speed on this particular album.

Speaker 2:

Looking at the hits here, there's Eye Alone. That's a huge hit. Lightning Crash is on this one, and what is the?

Speaker 4:

other.

Speaker 2:

Oh man, well, anyway, we'll find.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, Lightning Crash is.

Speaker 2:

Eye Alone, selling the drama all over you. And I guess White Discussion, I think, was released as a single, so I think, as I recall now there may have been a video for that. But in any case, great album, it really rocks out.

Speaker 2:

And the personnel really seemed to be really in touch with a lot of things. There's a lot of spiritual themes to this album, for sure. It's pretty hard rockin'. It's sort of post-grunge, I think is a genre that it's labeled as Alternative Rock. Yeah, recording the Packageerm studio in Cannon Falls, minnesota. So shout out to Cannon Falls and we're looking at this studio album cover. This is according to Wikipedia. The cover art is a painting by Scottish artist Peter Housen and it's titled Sisters of Mercy. So I guess on September 23rd it was sold for $186,000 at Christie's. So, okay, cool. Well, that part of it is neither here nor there, but nevertheless now you know that's where the album cover comes from.

Speaker 3:

And this is interesting.

Speaker 2:

We didn't even check to think about the producer of this until moments before we started recording. It's produced by Jerry Harrison, who is the guitarist and the keyboardist for the Talking Heads. So shout out to Jerry and shout out to the guys in Live. And it's there's an Ed, there's a Dahlheimer and there's a couple of Chad's here. So that's the personnel on this particular album. I think it's the original line. If I'm not mistaken, ed Koalchik is the singer. I think it's.

Speaker 4:

Where are the other guys here.

Speaker 2:

There we are here. Patrick Dahlheimer bass. Taylor Lee guitar backing vocals. Chad Gracie drums backing vocals and I think throughout the years they've had a bunch of different lineup changes. People got fired. I think Ed Koalchik left in 2009, came back in 2016.

Speaker 2:

Something around that timeline, I think, there's a reuniting in 2016 of all the original members. I think, until I'm not mistaken, chad Taylor got fired by the other Chad. I don't know. I was reading things, but it's again. It's neither here nor there because, again, we want the focus to be about this album, the songs on it, a lot of the cool elements of them and the cool noodling that we're listening to with Tim here.

Speaker 2:

Give him a second to wrap up. All right, champ, that was good, good job, all right. So he's going to pack up. He's going to come join us and again, thank you. Continue to listen, as always. And Tim is getting settled in. He's always got the chair, troubles the mic, adjusting it, he's shifting the chair. He does this whole routine. Puts the headphones on.

Speaker 6:

How's it going, bud, I had to get that last little noodle in.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he's a. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 6:

We'll do it live. It makes no sense to not do it live, Okay.

Speaker 1:

I don't know what. Whatever it is, it's not right on a it's billi-ri.

Speaker 2:

We didn't explain that.

Speaker 6:

Well, we'll do it live. I wonder if Live's live albums are really something to see. I'm sure who knows if they're going strong today touring, but I know back in the day they did so I wouldn't. Oh yeah, yeah, and you love this band? You bought the album when it came out. Oh yeah, I love it. I don't know, this band kind of eclipsed me a little bit. I knew about the hits but I was like I never, was like oh, who is this?

Speaker 3:

I don't know.

Speaker 6:

Until this process have I really looked into live.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, that surprises me, because I think you went to York College, if I'm not mistaken, I did Shout out to Spartans. Yeah, and that's where they're from. So when did you?

Speaker 6:

discover. Well, in college people said, oh, there's a song about college, this college or this town. I should say Got it and it was shit town with an E, with an extra E. What's that all about? What is it about?

Speaker 2:

One of the songs is a non-hit. It's called shit town.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, it's called shit town and it's not that great of a song, to be honest. We'll see.

Speaker 2:

But they spell it town with an E on the end of it, like they're from Europe or something. But yeah, canada.

Speaker 6:

It's not a rough town. There's old, abandoned factories and dry ice factories and some undeveloped parts of town.

Speaker 2:

Okay, even if it is, why do you gotta live there? I mean, don't we all have a choice?

Speaker 6:

to just sort of leave. I think that's the whole motif of the song.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, who wants to dig deep into that? Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 6:

Everybody knows York is the place where the weights came from. Shout out to John Turpac, the barbell guy.

Speaker 2:

It's a pleasant town. I mean, I didn't see it. I've been there a few times, we both like peppermint patties.

Speaker 6:

So it's the city of the sister roses. Red and white Shout out to them.

Speaker 2:

Shout out to half of my business unit that lives in York. Love you guys.

Speaker 6:

Shout out to the drill sergeants out there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but I love this White discussion.

Speaker 6:

Well, I love this, yeah, yeah it's a lot of fun. It is very alt rock. They build up so well. A lot of tension release going on yeah.

Speaker 2:

We're going to have to do some shout out to Brad Hamilton's too, so later.

Speaker 6:

So in the meantime, let's shout out a shot at Hamilton.

Speaker 9:

Shout out to him, all right.

Speaker 2:

Also shout out to John Davidson.

Speaker 6:

Yes, pillars of Davidson come up later. Ready to get into it. Do we have any words? What other words?

Speaker 1:

I can't read it. There's no words.

Speaker 6:

There's a slow build of this song. I really did like this song right away, and this is actually one that I didn't have to look up the tab. I've been getting good enough to where I can kind of feel the song out, and I just noodled for hours on this one.

Speaker 2:

I really liked it a lot, so anyway, yeah, it's a great song, Of course, yeah, and damn it. Otter Creek. I don't know if there is an actual Otter Creek. I don't know, I looked it up earlier. I think there's one in Vermont. I was just wondering if there's an informal Otter.

Speaker 6:

Creek. Somewhere around York there was a creek that you had to fjord through with your car in that campus, which is kind of cool.

Speaker 2:

The Riverkeeper. Maybe that's what they're referring to. The Riverkeeper didn't like it. Yes, maybe I mean well. Well, the I mean it'll come to us.

Speaker 6:

It's kind of a little like when the levy breaks, kind of thing going on here.

Speaker 10:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

But it's a slow intro. Yeah, yeah, I love this guitar.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, yuri.

Speaker 2:

You actually did a pretty well. I think you got the timing.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, it's nice to do a slower song. What is the purpose of a dam anyway?

Speaker 2:

Just to plug up the waters so you can protect shit.

Speaker 6:

Yeah.

Speaker 5:

Right, right.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, pretty good content.

Speaker 6:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

Maybe we should build up to something.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, the drums. Two minutes in, we're getting drums. This is great.

Speaker 2:

Step it up, backed up, increase the tempo. Shout out to Nancy Kerrigan.

Speaker 10:

Why.

Speaker 6:

Leave the curse behind.

Speaker 11:

Guess where you just got into Cool guy zone.

Speaker 2:

That's right.

Speaker 6:

He is the cool guy zone.

Speaker 7:

He's the guy that you're driving. Have the place you call here and now.

Speaker 2:

Shout out to Carl Sagan, that's it.

Speaker 6:

Alan Watts, little Alan Watts, Clanked by love. That guy had like nine wives he was. He was a crazy one. No show of the English. He needed a dam, just to. I know this is the dam is.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, second chat is rocking.

Speaker 5:

He is steady by the government cheese.

Speaker 2:

Oh, chad, chad, like nothing, chad.

Speaker 5:

I can't see real good. Does that feel Shakespeare over there that?

Speaker 4:

was an actual.

Speaker 2:

That was an actual.

Speaker 4:

Well, Laudy Frickindog.

Speaker 2:

That was a well placed.

Speaker 6:

And we're off the mark here with that one. Yeah, man, you were. You were mixing it up.

Speaker 4:

That's messed up.

Speaker 2:

Shout out to Tim Soundclip engineering. I was kind of digging that. My fingers hurt. So, all right, that was a non hit and yeah, we're off to the races.

Speaker 6:

Well before we're off to the races, let's hear from Brooks.

Speaker 11:

The world went and got itself in a big damn hurry.

Speaker 6:

All right, now let's sell the drama. Damn it, all right.

Speaker 2:

Oh, Brooksy.

Speaker 9:

Well, isn't that special.

Speaker 6:

Scream it. What are we screaming?

Speaker 7:

I don't know, don't you know, hold on to God's unchanging hand Scard, not like that. Where'd you get the beauty scar? Tough guy.

Speaker 5:

Even pussy. Yeah, that was a nice to say. I don't know why you wanted that one, the Scarface.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, you got good stuff here.

Speaker 6:

A chair that will sit.

Speaker 5:

I have to say Jesus.

Speaker 6:

I can't. I can't read and walk at the same time. Can you read a book and walk at the same time? I can barely read my messages on my phone and walk down the streets, especially on these cobblestone streets, damn.

Speaker 2:

You gotta be careful, it's shout out to the walkers though, for sure, shout out to the walkers.

Speaker 6:

Horseback riders, runners.

Speaker 7:

I'm not gonna get a scar like that.

Speaker 2:

Shout out to Chad, shout out to the first Chad. The first Chad is like the guitar, that is a good solo yeah.

Speaker 6:

It's like I've willed, I've walked, I've been here before, sort of like a God, oh God.

Speaker 5:

I'm flying into her A love that has a name I will, I won't, I'll rip Fire.

Speaker 4:

I know, I know I'm feeling it more.

Speaker 11:

Now we're wondering Call the fire department, this one's out of control.

Speaker 6:

I love this song.

Speaker 2:

One thing about the Dalhite, that's the bass player, right yeah he's crushing it right now. He plays a lot of notes, but I mean he doesn't do good with it.

Speaker 6:

He kind of does some jazzy stuff. Actually, this reminds me of you too a lot. The screen though, like I don't know.

Speaker 2:

They're both like religious themes. Yeah, they have like this, like spirituality always shows up in there.

Speaker 6:

It does.

Speaker 2:

They're fans of one another. Yeah, what I'm told.

Speaker 6:

Well, yeah, they are. Yeah, Should we hear from some from Orpheus in between songs here?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, free your mind.

Speaker 2:

Alright.

Speaker 11:

Orpheus, you have to let it all go, Neo Fear doubt and disbelief.

Speaker 6:

Next one up.

Speaker 2:

Is that Fishburn? Yeah, it should.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, fishburn, he's, amazing All right, this is it.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, well, isn't that special.

Speaker 9:

Well, isn't that special.

Speaker 2:

Shout to the boaters. Call the fire department. Wait just a minute.

Speaker 10:

Old ship.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Hamilton does a lot of things alone, you know.

Speaker 6:

He does in the bathroom. It's like measuring his thing Cradle. All right, shout out to the space babies, I guess.

Speaker 4:

Space babies. Wait, just a minute.

Speaker 2:

That's just funny, though everyone.

Speaker 5:

Long time, joe, I love you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Del, I miss you. This is great Walking the dog, is that?

Speaker 6:

Sorry, I'm just laughing to myself. Shout out to the runners out there.

Speaker 5:

Oh, can't save us now.

Speaker 6:

Oh jeez.

Speaker 11:

Call the fire department.

Speaker 6:

This is fear and hate, you know.

Speaker 3:

I'm not afraid anymore.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 6:

So what's this? The taste of choice moment between guys.

Speaker 4:

Love you bro, love you too bro.

Speaker 11:

Love you bro, love you bro.

Speaker 9:

Love you, bro. All right, Hamilton.

Speaker 6:

That's one of my favorite 90 songs Of all time.

Speaker 2:

I think the most popular song on this out lightning crashes is.

Speaker 6:

This one I alone is. It gets me going. This should be on all my playlists of you know, uppity uppity playlists. Uppity heartbeat playlists.

Speaker 2:

Sure, yeah, they seem like down-to-earth guys, though when you see them do the interviews, it's not like out there. They're just working, man. This is a good one too.

Speaker 6:

It's not hit though it qualifies right. Shout out to the.

Speaker 5:

Eyes.

Speaker 6:

Knuckles what?

Speaker 2:

I was trying to have the restraint, but yeah, but I'm glad you went for it Because it was slaying.

Speaker 10:

I requested for more, all right.

Speaker 6:

Mistaken for love.

Speaker 5:

Fuck the drop.

Speaker 2:

She heads on horse.

Speaker 6:

He's a horse, you say.

Speaker 11:

Yeah.

Speaker 5:

Oh, Mr Ed.

Speaker 6:

Little beating.

Speaker 2:

All right, we're getting there. Yeah, we're just seeing who can go lower. This is all about.

Speaker 6:

This is struggle man.

Speaker 5:

This is a real struggle right now.

Speaker 6:

I like this one a lot. It's explosive.

Speaker 2:

It feels, like.

Speaker 4:

What is that?

Speaker 6:

I don't know if Felix is. What does Felix mean? Felix of your truth.

Speaker 2:

He's like oh, that's usually what you mean. Yeah, he made a cat.

Speaker 6:

Yeah flags.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, tribalism Right.

Speaker 6:

Created armies. This is maybe.

Speaker 2:

The territorial worlds collide in these spaces. That's what I take from all of them.

Speaker 6:

The song seems about being a man that is getting oral sex from a woman, apparently, Okay well, that makes sense.

Speaker 5:

13th and side.

Speaker 2:

I thought it was. Yeah, I'm like oh it's a metaphor, but no, this is very specific, it's major struggle with the idea of falling in love Okay.

Speaker 6:

Remain distanced instead of Just experience physical gratification, rather than really being a man. I think it's a little bit of a, this vulnerability of emotional attachment.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's, I just thought it was Holy shit.

Speaker 6:

That's right. What's the rule on naming ships? It's got to be. It's got to be like your grandmother.

Speaker 2:

Oh, there's like a rule of thought you can't do. You can't do wife.

Speaker 6:

You've got to do like daughter and grandmother, because your daughter will always be your grandmother and always be your grandmother, but your wife won't always be your wife, apparently.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I'm going to have to listen to this again just to hear that part Over.

Speaker 10:

Why Shout out to Nancy Rock? And roll.

Speaker 2:

Alright, so this next one is needs no introduction.

Speaker 5:

Are you crying?

Speaker 4:

Mom, mom.

Speaker 5:

The angel opens her eyes.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I should probably say the band dedicated this song to their high school friend, barbara Lewis, who was killed by a drunk driver in 1993. Yeah, lead singer Ed Colowitz said our Koalchick Lightning crashes on an acoustic guitar in my brother's bedroom shortly before I had moved out of my parents house and got my first Place of my own, said that the video for lightning crashes has caused main misinterpretations of the songs in the tent. Okay, it's really sad anyway.

Speaker 6:

We're simultaneously death's and births are going on. Where one family mourns the loss of a woman while screaming baby, baby emerges, like the cycle of life kind of thing.

Speaker 5:

Okay.

Speaker 6:

I think it's a happy ending, but it's a sad moment.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, circle of life, I feel it coming back again.

Speaker 5:

I'm crying. No, I'm not crying. Moving forward, it sortafires the rewind. I can feel it, that feels it feels better.

Speaker 10:

Money.

Speaker 2:

These are seriously these guys. They're really well. Yeah, there's others in innocence to it, sort of you know like there yeah. Well, you're probably really young. You know young guys, you know, it's me music. I'm writing about things that are.

Speaker 6:

Extremely sincere it. It's raw really, and his voice is just so like Almost trapped inside himself. The way he sings, like it's in his throat.

Speaker 2:

Can't get it out. Rare to be able to be able to, yeah almost like that.

Speaker 6:

And then it has that rasp and he embraces sort of the raspiness is great. His bro is just crushing it on these little riffs, his acoustic song, with the fuzz on electric as well, that they have overdubbed I'm hearing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, by far. This is a song he gets deeply mystical.

Speaker 10:

Ah, what Hi.

Speaker 6:

You're recorded a half step lower and be major okay.

Speaker 2:

Like.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, GDU Chris.

Speaker 2:

Okay, Alright, yeah, so anyway. Written in the key of C major but recorded a half step lower in B major. That's interesting.

Speaker 6:

A little down tune. Yeah. It's a little down tempo. We're back on top here, ok. So yeah, this is top yeah.

Speaker 1:

This is really interesting it's kind of like everything.

Speaker 9:

It's not special. Yeah, what is this?

Speaker 5:

It's sort of like uh, it's kind of pop.

Speaker 6:

It's got a pop punk thing going on. Hi no, sir.

Speaker 5:

No, I'm kidding.

Speaker 6:

Ed Kualchuk is turning his back on corrupt leaders who gain loyalty through false promises.

Speaker 2:

Oh, so this is political. Yeah, like an early 90s. Yeah, the country is a lot different.

Speaker 6:

It was.

Speaker 2:

There was like a sense of you know, kind of like what leads to where we're at right now. At that time, you know, the working man was becoming more and more alien Right and in fact, race was shutting down, and it was that's where this music was coming from at that time and I think that's like one part that's overlooked about history in the United States. That period of time, there were some winners being defined in many fashion department plays.

Speaker 6:

NAFTA.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean absolutely these things divide until they, you know, it's like yeah. I think it's some part of the country always forgets that. And yeah, I think it's what they're speaking about.

Speaker 6:

Made. Cu is on top, you know.

Speaker 11:

Yeah, we pretty much know what we're doing in there. We, you know all right, all right.

Speaker 2:

All right, we all know this music all over again. I hit, you want it.

Speaker 5:

What you won't be in. I love you.

Speaker 2:

Oh, you're going to love you alone, yeah.

Speaker 6:

Yikes, you can do it.

Speaker 5:

Oh wait, just a minute.

Speaker 2:

You can basically play that. Play it like every other line. Say it, nick.

Speaker 10:

But I believe I requested the song.

Speaker 5:

You got some kick ass shit.

Speaker 6:

All right, Pete Chris Farley.

Speaker 2:

He was awesome. He was at his prime during this.

Speaker 6:

I know Period. We just watched Tommy boy the other night. Laughed my ass off.

Speaker 4:

Oh gosh.

Speaker 2:

Do you know the way? Does it hurt here or here? What happened to your face? I was doing Mark and my band.

Speaker 10:

Stupid.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, they me down, they me down. It says pay me, pay me what? And sweet, this is about horse.

Speaker 11:

Oh, thanks, I'm a horse.

Speaker 6:

This is a cool part, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Chad's number two is rock.

Speaker 6:

Rafa, what is this? It's like Dahlmeyer's crushing it, facing drums. Baby yeah, tension or Elise, they're so good at it. I mean in such short, you know.

Speaker 2:

It's not a lady down or pay me down.

Speaker 9:

Well, it's not special yeah.

Speaker 11:

Yeah, we pretty much know what we're doing in there.

Speaker 9:

No one's spitting it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, songs are awesome.

Speaker 6:

That is good. I love the ups and downs, the crests and valleys.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, big Chad number two fan.

Speaker 3:

I feel cracking. They got hold to the wrong stuff. Oh, it was, I'm sorry.

Speaker 6:

Hey man, you're, you're a criminal. People and pets Shout out to Layla, the California king snake that lived in my walls college. Oh, people's and pets, just I had one too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah sure. Oh God, yeah, the chip got stuck between the stove and the cover I turned out to stove, all of a sudden Popped his head up.

Speaker 6:

That's insane.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, dude. Oh my, it was like living in shit. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6:

The landlord's here. He's throwing all my dishes into a cooler.

Speaker 5:

You want it no.

Speaker 6:

We live next to a sober house and they would occasionally knock on the door and throw in a pack of cigarettes and say I'm trying to quit again. It was really fun. Yeah, we live next to a sober house and we were all like drinking getting crazy. Oh my God, it was interesting.

Speaker 2:

I would like to have been a fly on the wall.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it was nuts.

Speaker 3:

So weird. She just came up to me and started talking about the pack.

Speaker 6:

Rock and roll. You really just got to get through. Do you have toilet paper? Do you have a meal flex card that you can get some shit town food? Are you going to have to go to Rutgers and like, survive up like one of those, like just little Debbie's and some chocolate milk? You know what's that.

Speaker 2:

Until you can make a good break, make some good songs, Well, I think you know the song Top came from Top Roblox. They were living in shit town.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, and then going to church.

Speaker 3:

I'm not afraid anymore.

Speaker 2:

Another strong showing from Chad. Chad, Chad number one now has something to say about that.

Speaker 7:

I want you to hold on to God's unchanging hand.

Speaker 10:

God can help Joshua.

Speaker 11:

Call the fire department.

Speaker 2:

This one's out of control. Quite valedictive, quite the valedictive Very good, yes, he helped, daniel get out the lines.

Speaker 7:

then he helped Daniel get off the high man.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, okay, tbds to be determined.

Speaker 6:

Okay.

Speaker 7:

Oh doll Dollars at the place you call, here and now.

Speaker 2:

Oh yes, he creeps up on you, builds up and.

Speaker 6:

I love the build up for them.

Speaker 5:

And then he puts the ramps up.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, bass player's doing the walk of the dog.

Speaker 6:

Larry Clayton does that too, he's doing the tap on the side.

Speaker 2:

The edge plays a square like acoustically Book.

Speaker 5:

Books.

Speaker 6:

Shout out to the book readers on Friday nights, you know just stay home.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, the song is just really bringing me in.

Speaker 6:

I had to change some stuff around on my list.

Speaker 6:

I mean this is it's just going to get better, I'm going to seize, yeah, my dad took out a sailboat and just went with the wind up the river and had to be rescued after it went, when he was younger, by my grandfather on a megaphone on a boat he had a megaphone, jerry. It was dark and he was said he was scared, alone, there's no wind, and he was so sunburned and kind of drawn, kind of like like already like getting his hangover, and he couldn't get his miles up and couldn't get back. Oh how many miles.

Speaker 6:

Probably like two or two or three, but in sailing world that's a lot.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6:

He couldn't. Yeah, maybe I'm not exactly sure, but he's lucky. Well, he was either that, or get on someone's dock and just kind of like ask for help, or just can I? Hey, can I come and hang out for the night? Didn't have a jacket, because when the sun chaps you, it kind of like you get cold afterwards if you don't have but you know what I mean Jerry's you know well, I'll do respect, it's just got the pale skin oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

He'll burn easily, I could see.

Speaker 6:

I mean, I just yeah, it went from a utopian fun to really grim. Really bad.

Speaker 2:

Oh man, that was a cherry.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, it's doing good, it's good. Oh, there we go, wow. Wow. Shout out to the Buddhist guru. Eighth century Wrote the Buddhist last rights. He's transitioned into death.

Speaker 2:

I gotta go see these guys now, I know. It was just after that I mean, wow, okay, so, yeah, wow. So what we had to say about this one, what do you think? It's a little deja vu.

Speaker 5:

It's a little deja vu. Oh, what's what?

Speaker 7:

You got good stuff here, classy shit.

Speaker 2:

It's good stuff. All right, man, that's good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Now we are on stage.

Speaker 5:

Rock and roll, captain Hook, what?

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna bring my Captain Hook into the mess.

Speaker 6:

That is a weird line, yeah.

Speaker 2:

This could be about it. I'm not gonna attempt it, I just want to Rock and roll, messiah.

Speaker 9:

Well, it's not special. Hmm.

Speaker 6:

You know, church lady, there's a lot of devil worshipers Rock and roll no.

Speaker 5:

I don't think. I hate to admit it. I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I don't think I hate to admit it I don't think I've ever gotten to this song before, even though I bought this album early on. Sometimes you just don't listen to it, right, you know, you just listen to the ones you're familiar with. So this is kind of hit why?

Speaker 6:

It's a very punky, punky baruster. What a hi-hats.

Speaker 1:

Off his new album. Take it away. I don't know what. Whatever it is, it's not right on the teleprompter. I don't know what that is. I've never seen that. I can't read it. There's no words on it.

Speaker 2:

Well, do it, live Fuck it, do it live.

Speaker 1:

I can write it and we'll do it live. Fucking thing sucks Fuck.

Speaker 6:

Five four three.

Speaker 2:

I don't even know what that is.

Speaker 11:

Guess where you just got into Cool Guy's zone.

Speaker 6:

That's where that is.

Speaker 5:

I don't know what that is? He's getting dying of government cheese and living in a band down by the river.

Speaker 2:

Nice outro.

Speaker 5:

I like that Rolling doobies.

Speaker 2:

All right, that's not a rolling doobie. That's not a rolling doobie.

Speaker 6:

All right, that's not a rolling doobie Beatrice, what, this is the weirdest.

Speaker 5:

Wow.

Speaker 11:

Excuse me, Flo.

Speaker 6:

That's print for her pain.

Speaker 2:

Wow, there's a lot more going on. Weird that was amazing.

Speaker 5:

Mom, mom.

Speaker 6:

Kids in a restaurant, discuss, talk amongst yourselves, Wait what.

Speaker 2:

We all get the flu. We all get it, do we, oh my?

Speaker 4:

God.

Speaker 11:

Yeah, we pretty much know what we're doing in there.

Speaker 2:

I guess maybe there's some parts of York.

Speaker 10:

Why.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, I hope not. I hope everyone's doing okay. Geez the flu I get. But the other one is a lot more serious. This one falls flat for me a little bit.

Speaker 11:

Excuse me, Flo.

Speaker 6:

Flo's off the Flo's off. I like the effects here and the build up. Maybe it's a live song, more of a live performing.

Speaker 2:

Well, they're really changing it up.

Speaker 4:

That was kind of a cool transition. Okay, right For you that's your tip.

Speaker 3:

Oh no, no, no, I insist you take it. You obviously need this more than I do.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, there's nothing can save it from she was a bitch, but getting enough kind of a thing, I guess I don't. I mean it's a little harsh, it's a little harsh, I mean. And I don't know that whole. We all get AIDS and the flu Maybe.

Speaker 6:

I don't have enough information.

Speaker 2:

Shout out to the funky beret wearers yeah, that was kind of a cool line and we're a funky beret in our hair. Shout out to the drill sergeants out there. Oh yeah, because we got a white discussion next Shit town. So it's the surgeon. Full metal jacket.

Speaker 6:

Shout out to the warm bodies out there.

Speaker 4:

And yeah, okay shout out to John Davidson. He did it.

Speaker 6:

That's incredible.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's a pillar of Davidson. Yeah, it's that incredible.

Speaker 5:

Should I call it?

Speaker 2:

the pillar of John Davidson.

Speaker 5:

I'm discovered.

Speaker 6:

I'll be a long son, with medicine supposed to design to make you high.

Speaker 5:

What I'll be a long son. With medicine supposed to design to make you high, I'll be a long son.

Speaker 7:

You got good stuff here Words for feeling and all I've discovered, I'm discovered.

Speaker 6:

What are we discovered here? Bad eyes, yeah, who's got the old bad eyes? Rodney, rodney Danger.

Speaker 11:

Must have been something before electricity, huh.

Speaker 6:

What a Rodney Danger feel.

Speaker 11:

Must have been something before electricity. Huh what.

Speaker 10:

Good evening. I'm John Davidson.

Speaker 2:

Alright, if I could carefully give her like this and Fran Tarkentown, what a weird line up. It's carefully give her dead. Not carefully, no, carefully cross me. What do I think there's a? Carefully cross me.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, that was her name, yeah.

Speaker 5:

Cathalie Crosby.

Speaker 2:

Cathalie Crosby. She was the hot blonde.

Speaker 6:

Holy slime. What is that? What is holy slime I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I'm lonely as dry as we're taking our time moving ship for this holy slime Not maybe good.

Speaker 4:

The pedophile. So what's this?

Speaker 6:

The tastiest choice moment between guys. Shepherd Very religious here.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 6:

I'm getting Christian alt rock here yeah what's next?

Speaker 2:

What are we doing next time? We're doing like Striper.

Speaker 4:

Samus uh Big Plus One.

Speaker 2:

That's it.

Speaker 1:

Here. You are all equally worthless.

Speaker 2:

That's a little teaser for the next song.

Speaker 6:

Warm bodies, not machines.

Speaker 5:

I can only make money.

Speaker 11:

Excuse me, Flo.

Speaker 5:

Servers shout out to the cash Past perfect attempt, words for feeling, all I've discovered.

Speaker 10:

That feels Bad eyes.

Speaker 4:

Bad eyes.

Speaker 11:

Must have been something before the quizzity huh Bad eyes.

Speaker 5:

All my deep cave. I'm not a creed anymore, Hello to my days out, I kind of like this one.

Speaker 6:

I don't know, I'm not sure why.

Speaker 4:

I'm a heart in my head and it's dark till I'm dark.

Speaker 1:

Good evening. I'm John Davidson.

Speaker 7:

Oh, oh, oh, I feel.

Speaker 6:

Oh, bad eyes. I feel like I don't have 2020 anymore, right? Aren't you not supposed to squint? You're not supposed to squint at things, and I think I squint a good deal.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, you're probably not at 2020.

Speaker 6:

That's fine Squinting.

Speaker 2:

I think it's. That's fine. I'm not enough time to express Seems cruel. If you, is that a, is it a kind of sad? No, it's that you kind of feel it? I don't know, I feel dehydrated.

Speaker 6:

I get a little twinge in my eye Like a little blood vessel. It just does that little thing and you can feel it pulsating. Oh shit, well, watch out for yourself. It's good, Well, yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's a good thing. Maybe it is I'm about to die.

Speaker 6:

I'll die Shepherds. Okay. What Cheaper than all souls he will walk upon? Deeper and deeper.

Speaker 4:

Cheaper than all souls.

Speaker 2:

He will walk upon Shepherds, okay, so I can't enter the heart to the devil.

Speaker 11:

And deeper Way, way down, where his cares and inhibitions will be gone. Oh wait, just a minute.

Speaker 2:

Shout out to the sergeants out there, the military.

Speaker 11:

And my orders are to weed out all non-hackers who do not pack to gear to serve in my beloved car.

Speaker 2:

You'd much rather break, Shout out to Full Metal Jack. Great movie.

Speaker 5:

Stanley.

Speaker 6:

Very cynical look at political correctness.

Speaker 5:

Hmm, okay, okay, call me first again and again and again.

Speaker 2:

He's a salary watcher way more critical.

Speaker 6:

Disenchanting discourse. Oh, love this.

Speaker 5:

It's the beyond destruction. No one leaves me quite erect.

Speaker 2:

Uh, just a minute. Wait, just a minute.

Speaker 5:

On the set of roads behind the earth, and the clock is finally dead.

Speaker 10:

Excuse me, russell, but I believe I requested that I'll tell you. You're looking at me in a cry-a-lot.

Speaker 5:

This will be what we say.

Speaker 2:

This will be what we say yeah, I like this part because, yeah, this is great. It's like they're all soloing at the same time and it's kind of good.

Speaker 6:

Wow, in unison almost.

Speaker 3:

I'm not afraid anymore.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they're in real good, they're in sync.

Speaker 6:

Oh, Dalmire's crushing it.

Speaker 2:

Um, come listen to this you can tell he probably was really creative. There's a good creative balance between. This is a good help.

Speaker 6:

This is kind of throwing my list for a loop here.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the politics of it. It's kind of apologetic, it's substantive. Shout out to Nancy Kerrigan.

Speaker 10:

Why.

Speaker 9:

Well, it's not that bad.

Speaker 2:

Look where all this talking got us.

Speaker 6:

Mom, they got us a baby, mom Talking and touching, no touching, no touching, no touching, no touching.

Speaker 1:

Got us a baby there. You are all equally worth it.

Speaker 2:

Let's get the. What is that? Like a recorder? No, it's.

Speaker 6:

Whoa trippy. It's a recorder with effects.

Speaker 11:

This is Curt and Leslie Hepham-Glam.

Speaker 1:

If you don't open that door.

Speaker 11:

I'll tear you up like a clean-acted snuff.

Speaker 4:

I've prepared you, I instructed you, I've told you what to respect All the times and seasons.

Speaker 6:

That was not us, that was not us that bit that's in the album.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, all three musicians are just.

Speaker 6:

Oh, it's a sample of a preacher delivering an ominous sermon About the end of the world, taken from a shortwave radio broadcast of a guy Somewhere in Colorado. I think he says I don't know for sure because I don't know much about radio, and I just heard him and taped him one day Because I thought he had an amazing voice, so there's no more mystery to that. That's what he says. Hmm, that's, it's not a sermon, but it sounds like it could be.

Speaker 6:

Oh, the religious, military, industrial, compil Compilation. We're not even human-sucking-sucking. That was us.

Speaker 11:

Damn, this is so cool.

Speaker 4:

Fuck all up, because this has another minute here.

Speaker 6:

Call the fire department.

Speaker 11:

This one's out of control. Well, here's the thing with this song.

Speaker 2:

It's a this is a single. It actually had a video that they played on MTV, so I'm not even sure if this song is a single. It's on TV, so I'm not even sure if this is even in the boat.

Speaker 6:

Oh okay, okay, no, no, no, that's fine, that's fine, but this is a hit non-hit almost. Yeah it's a tweener Fire, it's fire.

Speaker 2:

Look upon my fearful glory.

Speaker 6:

It's such fire here Ah.

Speaker 3:

Free your mind.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that was cool. Yeah.

Speaker 4:

Don't come at me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I remember that. Now I remember all this. This is cool.

Speaker 7:

I want you to hold on to God's unchanging hand.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yeah, that was Tim. I'm not even taking it. Alright, we're at the last song, so thanks for hanging in there.

Speaker 6:

Gotta get back up on that horse.

Speaker 2:

It's sort of country-laster.

Speaker 11:

Market drops five points.

Speaker 2:

Shout out to Mr Ed.

Speaker 5:

I'll pick you up and deal with me tonight.

Speaker 11:

I'm glad my money's tied up in hay.

Speaker 2:

It's a nice duet.

Speaker 6:

I do like it.

Speaker 2:

It's a, it's just the background.

Speaker 5:

Background singers Maybe like four or something. This is beautiful.

Speaker 11:

Oh, thanks, I'm a horse, not a guinea pig.

Speaker 6:

Tom-Lord Algee for mixing, ted Jensen for mastering.

Speaker 5:

It's an interesting song for them.

Speaker 6:

I think they're really broadening their horizons.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, trying to show their range a little bit. We do the punk song, we have a country-lastered song. Maybe they didn't want to be. Maybe they want to keep their options open.

Speaker 6:

I agree.

Speaker 2:

In terms of you know, if they wanted to go in one direction or another, that's true, but it was the rock songs that had all the love that wouldn't have been a road it wasn't.

Speaker 5:

These were the albums.

Speaker 6:

It's beautiful, it's good. Again, Ed's lyrics and vocals. It seems to me that they compose a lot of the songs around the energy of his writing the song.

Speaker 2:

I don't see any lap guitar, but that's alright, I'm just Maybe it was one of the chats. For some time it was a bunch of chats. I think there were other people who performed them.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, we could see them. I have to look at that person.

Speaker 2:

This is quite a bit of what he's eating. Yeah, no go-bro.

Speaker 6:

Maybe they got some twangy guitars for this one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, maybe we just don't, or it could be a Koalji or a Chad Taylor. This doesn't seem like his bag, you know, but All the better if he did. I mean Nice, so I think that's the end. Yeah, that's the end man, but what a man. This is good.

Speaker 6:

I like how that wrapped it up.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, listen to, just listening to an album from beginning to end, I think it's just way better. I love it when we get to the end of these and then reflect on all of it, but and it sinks in like after we do these, but it does. But with that in mind, man, let's, let's get to the top three. What was your number three?

Speaker 6:

Or you want to, I mean I need to think about it after listening to it like that For me, I think, definitely definitely honorable mention for top. Okay, so many good ones here too. Honorable mention Maybe for for Iris? No, I'm going to say, iris is my number three.

Speaker 2:

Wow, Okay, yeah, no, it's a great song. I'm glad it's up there. It's on somebody's. It's going to be be. Do you have any comments about it or you just leave?

Speaker 6:

it that you don't have to, I mean no, it just it's, it's kind of it's kind of good feel to it.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yeah, it did. You're right. It was kind of an easier song actually, it felt like it was because there were some intense ones like. So I'm going to say well, I mean I would say that it would be in my top three white discussion would be where are we going to leave it out or do you want to leave it in?

Speaker 6:

Well, we'll leave it out. It's a tweener and it just borders at it as a hit.

Speaker 2:

So okay, yeah, we'll leave it out. Then I'm going to go with Pillar of Davidson Nice as mine. It just had like a nice sentiment to it and it had like some cool choruses in there, and you know. So that was my number three.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, okay, my number two going TBD, you know, had the ships and the sort of naturey vibe to the lyrics. Yeah, I don't know I just liked it. I just liked it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, I left me speechless. I mean, my number two is going to be the Dammit on a Creek.

Speaker 6:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Great song. It is one of those songs that builds up as a great way to begin the album and it gets you right into it. Okay, it's the order in the album and the song itself. It stands on its own, but also you know just the way it kicks off. The album was really important, so it should be in there as my number two.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, okay, well, that's my number one. The Dammit on a Creek. Just, it really does let the levy, just you know, subside into their musical stylings. It has a eeriness to it which is really juxtaposed at the very end with horse, which really wraps it up into this sort of roller coaster of alt rock here. That's very encapsulating, very encapsulating album.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, absolutely. Well, your number two is my number one, which is TBD, and just gave me goosebumps and I just it's one of the few songs that after we do this and pack everything up, you know, usually your ears are kind of like numb. You know, I almost kind of want to listen to it, like after we get it off, it was so good, wow, and it just kind of gave me this, you know, feeling this and that I mean it's really the way they all flow. It's just a really great album and I want, you know I'm glad we had a chance to do this one. So TBD is my number one.

Speaker 6:

Nice.

Speaker 2:

All right, all right, yeah, we got any last words.

Speaker 6:

Well, I think, with live and doing live for the podcast, I think we should have have Bill O'Reilly play us out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Thanks for listening. Take care guys.

Speaker 1:

Now I can't read it. There's no, there's no words on it. Okay, there's no words there. To play us out. What does that mean? To play us out? It's a video. It's a video. What is for credit? I don't know what that means. To play us out. What does that mean? To end the show? Yeah, yeah, all right, go, go, go, bye.

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