Pearl Jam: "Ten"

Embark on a sonic expedition through the storied past of Pearl Jam, as we pay tribute to their groundbreaking album "Ten" and its profound influence on the grunge movement. From the poignant narratives of Eddie Vedder's personal history to the band's courageous battle against industry giants, we uncover the raw emotion and rebellious spirit that catapulted tunes like "Jeremy" and "Black" from cult favorites to anthems that defined a generation. Together, we'll navigate the band's origins, their watershed moments, and the cultural legacy that still echoes in the chords of their music.

Strap in for a whirlwind journey back to the heyday of the 90s, where the music scene was as eclectic as it was electric. You're promised a year-long celebration, revisiting the era that brought us the angst-filled anthems of Everclear, the haunting ballads of Mazzy Star, and the evocative storytelling of The Wallflowers. Through these tales and tunes, we'll explore the diverse voices that shaped an unforgettable decade, and how those reverberations continue to influence today's artists.

Join me as I share personal reflections, studio anecdotes, and the occasional beer-fueled banter, all while dissecting the intricate layers of Pearl Jam’s "Ten." Whether it's the "Mamasan" trilogy that struck a chord or the political undertones that stirred the soul, each track is more than just a song—it's a piece of the puzzle that is our collective memory. So tune in, turn it up to eleven, and let's revisit the raw storytelling that still speaks volumes today.

Transcript

Speaker 1 0:10

Alright, thank you for listening to the Greatest, Not Hits. I'm Chris, and playing the guitar part from the song Release from Pearl Jam's inaugural album 10 is my co-host, tim, and we want to thank you for listening. We're gonna, as we always do, just listen to all the songs, rank our top ten, not hits at the end. At the beginning, I want to you know, kind of give the background of this band and you know their place in grunge history. But before I do that, I just want to thank everybody again. Continue to listen, download wherever you, podcast and support the show whenever you can. Hit up our Instagram feed. We're posting things all the time. Again, we're gonna try to reach out and engage in other ways and aspects down the road, but for today's purposes, we're gonna talk.

Speaker 1 1:09

Pearl Jam formed in Seattle, washington, in 1990. This band I mean they interesting, really interesting background. The original lineup consists of Eddie Vedder, mike McCready Eddie Vedder's lead vocals, mike McCready's the lead guitar player, stone Gossards rhythm guitar and Jeff Amit is his bass. The band's original drummer was Dave Crusen. He was replaced by Matt Cameron in 1998. I think he played in the Soundgarden prior to that but nevertheless, that's really the lineup is with Crusen on this particular album and you know, I mean, interestingly, two of the band members I think it's Stone Gossard and Dave Crusen from Steak and were original members of the rock band Mother Love Bowl. They had a record deal after their lead singer, andrew Wood, died of an overdose, I believe, from heroin, and the band disbanded, I think right upon the release of their album. They were gonna be the big band moving forward in terms of the grunge wave that came around this time and this is a 1990 by due. This is before Never Mind Interesting and historic event. It's fascinating, but nevertheless they formed from those two original band members. They later added Eddie Vedder and the other parts, amit, etc. Maybe it was Amit that was in Mother Love Bone. I'll clarify that later. Yeah, gossard and Amit were in Mother Love Bone. They were kind of a glam rock band actually and this I would say this is a rock album, even though it's kind of considered a grunge band because they're from Seattle. And this is the one that came out right after Never Mind. I mean, I think that there was some, you know, purity issues between Never Mind and Pearl Jam 10. But I think this is an awesome album. It's more rock based and I think that you can like both. I think the test of time has shown that Pearl Jam has been a really authentic band that had very heartfelt and emotional lyrics and they came from a genuine and real place.

Speaker 1 3:51

I think Eddie Vedder's past, you know comes into play here. I know he was. I think his original father wasn't around and in the picture passed away later on and, you know, after Eddie found out about him being his father. But he was raised by a stepfather and his mom. I think he originally had a stepfather's last name I probably don't even want to look it up because I give it oxygen but nevertheless he changed his name to Vedder, which is his mother's maiden name, and that's. That was, yeah, I think, leading up to the release of this album, which I think is kind of cool. I'm glad he did that. But nevertheless, 10 wasn't an immediate success. It just kind of gradually gained popularity but now it's considered one of the best rock albums of all time. I think it's always name checked as the best album. It's the best album and it's my favorite album that they have. On a personal note, I was between my junior and senior college when this came out. I remember I was spending the summer in Tallahassee, where I went to college.

Speaker 1 5:04

FSU and I remember buying this at the ball is Governor Square mall. The day came out they were like unpacking it and it's like what's this? Oh, yes, new Pearl Jam album. Who are they? I don't even know who they were. They're like oh yeah, they're awesome.

Speaker 1 5:18

Seattle band were playing. They could hear it in the background. They were playing it, you know, over there and I thought it was really good. So I was like, okay, I'll take a copy. So I mean I've had this, like from the original release and I've listened to it. I mean I listen to it a lot and I can move down to other albums after that. I haven't really listened to this closing really long time, although you don't really have to listen to it as an album because, like, all the songs individually are played, you know. But I mean we'll consider a few of them. You know the hits. Of course the live will be a hit and yeah, I mean we'll, we'll discuss Jeremy, of course, is going to be a hit.

Speaker 1 6:07

Aside from that, though, just Pearl Jam is a band you know they had a ticket master feud with them in the mid 90s. They're kind of known for that after this album. I think it's just a basic thing where you know you buy an album or you buy a concert ticket and should be 20. But you know the broker chart, you know, up ticks it up $10 and kind of cuts into the profits. And so I think they, because they had a monopoly, they argued with them and I think, on principle they they took a stand against them being the vendor and I think they kind of lost that. But I mean, the point was made. I think it's, and I think that they are also coming from a genuine place, no virtue signaling. I think that they were really, you know, pissed off about that and wanted to do something. But you know, for, for the sake of their fans and for their sake as well, why, why should a middleman come in and exploit?

Speaker 1 7:08

You know, and exploitation is kind of a theme throughout a lot of the, a lot of these grunge albums that are kind of hard to listen to for some people, even at times, never mind is really a hard album for me to listen to. But this one is a little bit more. I think it's a little bit more polished and more mature in its, its tone and and also like it's narrative and it, from my opinion, it captures the, the emotion but it it doesn't go ballistic. You know, I think it's the way some punk album, punk inspired grunge, go in that direction. This is more Led Zeppelin from a rock and roll place and I think, you know mother love bone classified as a glam rock band for some reason. But yeah, this is the early 90s, we're just coming out of late 80s. There's a lot of that glam stuff and I really the event of the transition between the mother love bone line up and and you know that eventually evolved into Pearl Jam, is really encompassed into this.

Speaker 1 8:27

So we're going to talk about that. Tim's gonna. You know, tim's going to join me in a moment. We're gonna, I think we'll explore those topics a little further and, like I said again, make a determination of what's going to be a hit and not hit, because this is one of those albums where you know, there's a lot of songs that we recognize just from listening to the album. It could be in the background at a party or whatever, and those are all. You know. They're all valuable things but, with that being said, we'll, we'll, before we listen, we'll, we'll decide what they are. So, with that being the case, yeah, tim, you know how are you doing man, are you feeling okay? My fingers hurt.

Speaker 1 9:16

Yeah, I knew it. Yeah, I mean, that's a hard song to play, how you doing.

Speaker 4 9:22

Good, doing good.

Speaker 1 9:24

I mean personally. You're doing good. Your fingers are not.

Speaker 4 9:26

Yeah, fingers are fine. You know, a little nasally, have a couple more marbles in my mouth here tonight. Okay, a little marbles in my mouth, giggity.

Speaker 1 9:35

Yeah, okay, well, that's cool, I mean.

Speaker 4 9:39

We're learning some lyrics. You know the delving in deeper and deeper here.

Speaker 1 9:45

Way down, of course. Well, that's cool. Well, I mean the thing about the lyrics also. He sounds you can't. You don't know what the lyrics are. Sometimes he's singing and he's kind of mumbling, yeah, and that's been like a thing throughout his. I mean, we'll do some subtitling for you I mean if because spoken word, we'll sing.

Speaker 4 10:05

We'll get singing to sing.

Speaker 1 10:07

Words up and as we go along, all yeah, him and I can take turns doing subtitles for you. If you don't yeah, if you're not following along with the music service and have the words going along. But you can do that as well.

Speaker 4 10:20

It's going to blow your mind, okay. Whoa, whoa, hey guys, whoa. Wow, it's going to blow your mind. Newsflash.

Speaker 1 10:33

Exactly.

Speaker 4 10:34

And then the next form of the double high fives. Just you know, everybody's converging.

Speaker 1 10:42

Yeah, little Mookie Blalock action. I guess, like the 10 comes from, like the name of the album, 10 comes with a Jersey number, that's a. I don't know if that's a myth or if it's factor fiction or. You better not mention that again.

Speaker 4 10:56

Yes, Thank you, gold Mookie Blalock, you know we're getting deep into his rebounding and uh yeah, 90s, it's great rebounder.

Speaker 1 11:10

Well, yeah, I mean, is he the Pearl Jam of basketball players? I don't know. But there's this Mookie Blalock Pearl Jam affinity. You know they're linked in some way. I don't aside from that, I mean maybe they're just fans or the band itself. When they get confronted they're sort of vague about. I think, yeah, I don't know if they were clarified, I don't know, this is maybe just their fans of Mookie Blalock. Yeah, it's just that.

Speaker 4 11:38

But anyway, yeah, apparently Eddie Vedder's voice changed after he saw like one of the guards like manhandling one of the fans or something like that. And he got like a I remember that from the documentary there was a point to make about that His actual vocal cord like intonation and got real crungy and like he never, he never.

Speaker 1 12:06

Oh. Blalock's got a gravelly voice. Blalock, no, vedder, oh, vedder, oh, that's how he got his.

Speaker 4 12:12

Yeah, I don't know about Mookie's voice.

Speaker 1 12:14

What does Mookie sound like? Well, let's promote that myth.

Hits and Non-Hits on Magic 98.9

Speaker 4 12:17

Well, who else? Yeah, there's. There's a. We're also going to talk about Ted Williams. You know he had a great voice.

Speaker 2 12:22

When you're listening to Nothing but the Best of Oldies. You're listening to Magic 98.9.

Speaker 1 12:27

Well, you have the homeless guy right, yes, well, yeah, I mean, that's kind of a theme. I think it was it. What's that, what's?

Speaker 4 12:32

that.

Speaker 1 12:32

Live, but it's one of the songs.

Speaker 4 12:34

One of the songs is about homelessness. Yeah, I think it's one of the hits that I haven't.

Speaker 1 12:37

Let's talk about what hits we're going to do. Yes let's do that. What is now? Let's see Where's the line up here.

Speaker 4 12:46

I think even flow, jeremy.

Speaker 1 12:49

Even flow, even flow. This is what I've been missing.

Speaker 4 12:54

Is that it?

Speaker 1 12:56

Is what I don't think. Once is Even flow. Alive and Jeremy are.

Speaker 4 13:02

I think those three maybe.

Speaker 1 13:08

Yeah, let's just do those three for right now. I mean, once is the first song, but I think I've heard it. I don't know, I don't think it's.

Speaker 4 13:17

Was it a hit at the time? See, a lot of these weren't hits at the time. Well, it took like a year or two, maybe three, for some of these songs to get into hit territory. Actually, especially with MTV Right, it took a while for this album to catch.

Speaker 1 13:38

It was epic records and I think they were the ones we had the Mother Love Bone contract as well.

Speaker 4 13:44

They got the contract they did. We got $5,000. Got $5,000.

Speaker 1 13:54

Shout out to Wayne and Garth Give a ride on the old bone roller coaster. Every time I do Mother Love Bone. Every time that's said, we got to do the bone roller coasters. Shane. That's like the screaming.

Speaker 3 14:09

I like that part.

Speaker 5 14:11

Work it, work it baby, work it, work it, own it.

Speaker 3 14:16

Own it Get that record label?

Speaker 5 14:18

Yes, you can handle this First is here somewhere the first record Shout out to Richard Gere.

Speaker 1 14:27

All right, yeah so epic records London.

Speaker 4 14:30

Bridge.

Speaker 1 14:31

London Bridge Studios, seattle, washington, march 91. Rick.

Speaker 4 14:36

Perasher did some studio work. Yeah, some instruments on here, some fill Work it, work it, work it.

Speaker 1 14:47

All right, mike McCready, we got some pepper shakers and fire extinguishers on oceans. Oh yeah, we have a Salt and Peck Per Shaker.

Speaker 4 14:57

Yeah, we have the band that said that if they would redo it they would take some of the reverb out and maybe make it a little more cut and dry, like a little more raw.

Speaker 1 15:08

Yeah, well, that's all coming. We'll delve deeper. We can delve deeper when we do the songs. Yeah yeah, with some of the stories, there's a lot of stories. Behind some of these Wants is a cycle that Vetter described as a mini opera Mama's son Mini opera.

Speaker 4 15:26

Mama's son Mini opera. Okay, mama's son Mini opera.

Speaker 5 15:32

Well, that's a good cycle Work it.

Speaker 1 15:37

All right. So what about? Oh, black, that's the one. Let's make black a hit. I think you know this one. I'll just play it for a second. Yeah, I mean you play the four oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's. I mean it's one of the yeah, we should exclude it because it's. It would be an easy number one, I think. Exactly. I think we need to be put on the spot. That's it's too easy.

Speaker 4 16:04

So what are the non hits then?

Speaker 1 16:05

Once Hit once.

Speaker 4 16:08

Alive.

Speaker 1 16:09

No, Alive is a hit.

Speaker 4 16:11

Okay, once.

Speaker 1 16:12

Alive, yeah Once. Why go Oceans Porch Garden Deep?

Speaker 4 16:20

Okay.

Speaker 1 16:20

Release.

Speaker 4 16:23

Release is. I don't want.

Speaker 1 16:24

yeah, no spoiler alert. This is just a great song, it wasn't?

Speaker 4 16:26

a hit. That was yeah, it was what I was playing. You know, the release free, a little free release. Yeah, releases don't cost much, you just have to. You know, pick up a hobby, maybe be a podcasting guitar, cut up some magazines, you know that's very, very scary very scary.

Speaker 1 17:00

I'll be too scared. I'm not afraid anymore there it is all right. Well, we have the opportunity just with the dead air not dead air, but this is kind of leading up to and now it's gonna start rocking so. Mike McCready crushes it on the sound.

Speaker 4 17:39

Yeah he does, I really good fills that's right, fingers are.

Speaker 6 17:50

Yeah, I mean so wow, anybody else's fingers hurt? I didn't think so lose yourself where do I stand?

Speaker 1 18:22

I'll do this okay, yeah, yeah, I am in it. Where do I stand Indian summer in a hd. I got a backstreet lover on the passenger seat. I got my hand in my pocket so discerned the screen. I pray once upon a time wow, that's good jacked it twice since I've been here.

Speaker 1 19:01

Tim's a great hand in pocket. That was in portase. I don't know why you got your hand in your pocket. Yeah, he was rocking right that was a he says I think I got my eyes closed, but I'm looking at you the whole fucking time. That was all up. That was all what you didn't hear. Okay, once upon a time it's a little fairy tale.

Speaker 4 19:44

I can lose myself yeah, I could love myself, lose and love to love yourself. Do you need to lose yourself sometimes? Oh yeah, there is that. Maybe that's a fire question right there.

Speaker 3 20:06

Yeah yeah, jacked it twice. I'm in a glass case of emotion fire we're off the mark here that's okay.

Speaker 1 20:26

Yeah, I like that last one.

Speaker 4 20:28

I just like the sound off the mark is a good thing. Like you know the gunshot, you know yeah.

Speaker 1 20:33

I just, I wasn't me. Yeah, I was off the mark. I didn't get the connection. You're two steps ahead of me. What can I say? Two steps?

Speaker 4 20:41

I'm moving and goading all right, what's the next one?

Speaker 1 20:44

we got even flow. This is the big one.

Speaker 4 20:51

Got a lot of nosebleeds when I was a child. Lots of blood flowing.

Speaker 3 20:58

Okay.

Speaker 1 21:06

But no, we should be glad this is about all the Broken nose, oh right, but you know, I was thinking. But this is kind of like in line with that. What it's Ted Williams? You know, he's even flowed.

Speaker 4 21:28

Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1 21:31

Okay, dark Rinn can't help when he's happy he looks insane. Can't help when he's happy he looks. Yeah, you know how like.

Speaker 4 21:39

Right, you look happier and insane.

Speaker 1 21:41

You don't feel it you know Doesn't hit because yeah.

Speaker 2 21:46

When you're listening to Nothing but the Best of All these. You're listening to Magic 98.9.

Speaker 1 21:51

Okay, I don't know why that was him, that was me.

Speaker 3 21:57

When you're standing away.

Speaker 4 22:01

Beautiful singing here. Then he can his life again. He did have a chance at life again.

Speaker 1 22:15

Oh, Ted Williams. Yeah, and 98.9. Shout out to 98.9 if you're still around.

Speaker 4 22:22

Shout out to Making the Society. Help Home this bit. People Provide value to everybody's life.

Speaker 1 22:32

Yeah, well, and we need more houses or something.

Speaker 4 22:35

Yeah, 3d print those bitches, let's go, winners coming.

Speaker 1 22:48

Feeling far between all the legal halls of shame, hey Ceilings. Feeling far between all the they're sadly yeah. I remember reading this though thinking yeah, I mean, I'm taking it for granted having a group over my head Just articulating, like when you see a homeless person and when they're smiling, you don't feel happy for that. You know, you don't have to say anything about that.

Speaker 4 23:28

Yeah Well, you should. No, no, no, no. I mean you gotta try your best and help them out. Maybe, yeah, be involved in their life. It's hard.

Speaker 1 23:45

But yeah, here's a killer guitar solo. I love it. I'm sure his fingers hurt right now.

Speaker 5 24:10

That's baby making music. My fingers hurt.

Speaker 1 24:23

I mean, have a little empathy for the guitar player, it's got. They're like play, even flow.

Speaker 4 24:29

They're like God damn it.

Speaker 1 24:31

God damn it. Yeah, can't do another four hours of arts and crafts, I know.

Speaker 4 24:41

Shout out to the Emailers out there, shout out to the Mass Emailers, shout out to the commuters as always, the data entry folk, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 24:57

Shout out to the vacationers yeah, well, hope that kid in the back shuts up pretty soon.

Speaker 4 25:12

Come on, wait Him away.

Speaker 1 25:13

Yeah. Shout out to the kids in the back. Shout out to you guys. God bless you for making your life, your parents' lives, hell. I didn't think so. Anybody else's fingers hurt. Anyway, yeah, now we're going to hear Jeremy pretty soon and all of a sudden I've got to backtrack what I just said. But in the meantime we got a live. Yeah, this is it.

Speaker 4 25:50

So what this is about I think it's autobiographical. Autobiographical. Autobiographical. Autobiographical For Eddie here.

Speaker 1 25:58

Yeah, his dad, stepdad, your real daddy, was dying. Yeah, just some subtitles, I guess. Son she said, son she said, I've got a little story about you. What did you thought was your daddy? There's nothing about it.

Speaker 4 26:26

Oh, there is 13.

Speaker 1 26:31

You're a real dad, you're a son. They speak to themselves as a third person.

Speaker 4 26:39

Yeah it's cryptic.

Speaker 1 26:44

It's kind of neat, yeah, almost, yeah, like he's writing it as a little he's a young adult in his early to mid-20s and he's talking to his 13-year-old self, saying glad we talked.

Speaker 4 27:02

Like it yeah.

Speaker 1 27:04

He's apologizing to his former self and he's feeling bad.

Speaker 4 27:08

Like a sort of goodwill hunting moment where it's not his fault, you know.

Speaker 1 27:15

Yeah, the breakthrough moment.

Speaker 5 27:19

I'm not afraid anymore.

Speaker 1 27:23

Exactly the look, the look. Oh, you knew where. Now I can't see, I just stay.

Speaker 5 27:37

We got it. Now it's all right.

Speaker 4 27:46

There's a theme here. Yeah, we're just doing what. Oh man, that's funny.

Speaker 1 27:52

This is like a really mature self-actualizing moment that we're doing this.

Speaker 4 27:58

Well, it's a sad song and Eddie said when all the fans scream in a life-affirming way, I'm still alive, I'm still alive. At the shows they sort of change the curve, they lift the curse of the song. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what he said in an interview, okay.

Speaker 1 28:17

Yeah, because this is the thought process for other people, not just us. You know, it's like at some point in time you play it all the time, over and over again. It loses meaning. Let's move ahead you know?

Speaker 5 28:28

Yeah, it's just crazy, you want me to hit you.

Speaker 4 28:32

No, hitting all right, hitting is bad. No, it's just Shame to the spankers, shame.

Speaker 1 28:47

I agree shame, Shame. I wonder what Peter Griffin would think.

Speaker 3 29:05

This was serious, but it turned into something fun.

Speaker 1 29:11

That was a very ill-timed soundbite that we're not going to edit out.

Speaker 5 29:28

Work it, work it baby.

Speaker 1 29:32

That was better yeah.

Speaker 4 29:43

Really great guitar solo. Again, I'm Stony Baloney, is it Stony Baloney? No, that's Mikey. Who's Stony Baloney? Oh, goddard Stone Gossard.

Speaker 1 29:56

The Gossard. Yeah, I always make some mistakes.

Speaker 4 30:06

Well, amen to that Brut.

Speaker 1 30:11

Jeff, amen to that. Is it amen or amen?

Speaker 4 30:14

Amen.

Speaker 1 30:15

Yeah, amen to that.

Speaker 5 30:22

We got it, now Work it.

Speaker 4 30:35

He's just going to use some harmonics here, maybe Very Jimi Hendrix-y kind of yeah Right here.

Speaker 1 30:50

This is like Jimmy Page. I mean they're.

Speaker 4 30:54

Jimmy Page, jimmy yeah, jimmy Hendrix. I mean this is like one of the best solos and they're all just screaming and wailing away and then the drum. Yeah, that is awesome.

Speaker 1 31:10

That's just. A great end too. Deeper and deeper. Way down. Oh, nice segue, I like that. That was all Tim Shout out hey, it's a wide go, this is a non-hit. When I first put this on and I heard this, this is when I was just like yeah, it was just energy, it's like really aggressive, like in the good way. Yeah, this is sick.

Speaker 3 31:55

This is amazing.

Speaker 1 32:03

Maybe someday they'll be a child Won't feel as alone as she does. It's been two years of counting Diagnose. It's Nashuel's story From the song Fats. It explains the girl is, I guess, sent to a doctor, a mental institution. She's in a mental institution and she was fine. It was her parents that were screwed up. They're putting her up there she doesn't belong, making her even worse.

Speaker 4 32:39

Yeah.

Speaker 3 32:40

Not good, not good.

Speaker 1 32:54

She could be another clone, another clone.

Speaker 4 33:02

Obviously, you know this country's got a lot to get with mental health.

Speaker 1 33:09

Yeah, it's getting better. They didn't have any of that back in the day. This is our mental health.

Speaker 4 33:16

Yeah, make music Self-medicate.

Speaker 1 33:19

I know, yeah, milwaukee's best. I mean, that was a horrible beer. It's like we had that what else do we do. It's probably one of my More on the poor side of my life. You know it's okay, it's supposed to be. There's no shame in your study.

Speaker 4 33:39

Milwaukee's beast.

Speaker 1 33:41

Yeah, you're drinking the beast. Yeah, that's not Hams. I mean you gotta like, because we had homeless people and they was, like it's about, in front of convenience stores drinking hams.

Speaker 3 33:55

But they're doing the same stuff yeah.

Speaker 1 33:59

Not living much better.

Speaker 4 34:00

Yeah, no, it's tough.

Speaker 1 34:03

It's tough out there.

Speaker 4 34:04

It is freaking.

Speaker 1 34:14

But I feel bad for this girl. Yeah, I mean it's like your parents would put you into a mental home Just let you smoke pot or whatever. You got caught. There was nothing really, it was just teen angst yeah teen angst Exactly.

Speaker 4 34:30

You know, you might Some other problems, but you want it?

Speaker 3 34:36

No, I don't want it.

Speaker 1 34:37

Yeah, well, shout out to my parents after that one, yeah. Thanks for raising me, right yeah.

Speaker 4 34:47

Shout out to the parents out there.

Speaker 1 34:50

Yeah.

Speaker 4 34:53

It's. It's a tough job, yeah.

Speaker 1 34:57

They're self-palate cleansing from this transition.

Speaker 4 35:00

We didn't do anything. We didn't do anything.

Speaker 1 35:03

Yeah, we didn't have to Dancing in display. Sheets of empty canvas, untouched sheets of clay. Oh, we're laid and spread out before me as her body wants to.

Speaker 4 35:23

I'll give you a rock for a clay. Shout out to their katanas out there, there.

Speaker 1 35:32

What's that A timber? They ever mention that in the song later on.

Speaker 4 35:35

Yeah, oh, a timber? Yeah, is that the bow? And roller coaster? Yeah, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 3 35:47

Exactly.

Speaker 4 35:49

Yeah, that looks. Turn down your windpipe. Yeah, taught her everything.

Speaker 1 36:04

And I taught her, and all I taught her was everything.

Speaker 4 36:09

There's a lot of things.

Speaker 1 36:12

Now she gave me all that she wore. So yeah, he's coded her cells.

Speaker 3 36:27

My fingers hurt. My fingers hurt.

Speaker 4 36:54

Is there a little raga in here, a little barbershop raga?

Speaker 1 37:01

I don't know.

Speaker 4 37:04

It's just a love song, right, a breakup song.

Speaker 1 37:14

Yeah, this is what. This is, a general breakup song. All the pictures have all been watched in black, protected everything.

Speaker 4 37:44

We're in the US Billboard.

Speaker 1 37:47

A lot of breakups that year.

Speaker 4 37:51

That's what made it a good song. Yes, it was the E-ballard Ballad, I should say, written by Stony Bloney Gossard.

Speaker 1 38:09

Shout out to Brad Hamilton from Fast Times. He broke up with his girlfriend some time ago.

Speaker 3 38:15

All right.

Speaker 4 38:16

how was it? I know you have a beautiful life, Just not with me.

Speaker 3 38:30

Why can't that be? I can't help it.

Speaker 4 38:40

He's saying he's mine, that was mine, right there.

Speaker 3 38:45

Mahan, I am.

Speaker 1 38:50

I do. I like how he screams with the guitar solo. Yeah, I do too. I think he's saying do-do-do-do-do-do right now.

Speaker 4 39:04

He's just kind of noodling here, he's do-noodling, he's new doodling, new doodling, new doodling.

Speaker 3 39:17

Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do.

Speaker 1 39:33

I think we've got it.

Speaker 5 39:34

We've got it. Now it's all right.

Speaker 1 39:41

I am going to fade to black on this one. Are you in agreement?

Speaker 4 39:46

Yeah, that's a lot of do's we are. Yeah, it's a hit. It's a hit anyway.

Speaker 1 39:53

It's gonna show on the road now, so we're gonna go to. Jeremy, another hit, but we're playing, just so where you go harmonics rips his teeth and bites the recess. Ladies breast, how can I forget?

Speaker 4 40:08

shout out to all the gym teachers and art teachers out there, just, and academic teachers as well, I suppose.

Speaker 1 40:18

Oh, Shout out to Chris and Tim for not having a sound clip for Fighting the recess. Ladies, for us, I mean that would seem like it would be an obvious one. Yeah, we totally jump.

Speaker 4 40:39

To the fact that mommy didn't care.

Speaker 1 40:42

I King Jeremy the wicked Joking, spoke in class today.

Speaker 4 41:06

I like how he says today it's, it's very like today.

Speaker 1 41:19

Okay, we unleashed the lion. Oh, you can't forget that he hit me with this.

Speaker 5 41:42

This is crazy. You want me to hit you? That's right.

Speaker 3 41:48

Oh.

Speaker 1 41:55

Yeah, get into this fight, all right the boy was somebody that mommy wouldn't wear.

Speaker 3 42:00

Yeah that's kind of cool.

Speaker 1 42:11

It's. It's almost as if, like, the lyrics in this are like it's heavy stuff and it's beyond my. This is out of my lane, yeah yeah, I mean they're covering huge issues. Oh, they're just giving like bits of information and you know it's like a bigger story, this word, and you sort of fill in the blanks, right?

Speaker 4 42:41

right they tell, but them telling you afterwards what it is actually about makes it like More bone chilling. Actually, I think the meanest Bullying form is pantsing People just like run and pull your pants down. It's so messed up. Oh I know it's so messed up. It's like what is that? That is like Not cool. The hate people do that. It's just like I hate you, like can't do that.

Speaker 3 43:34

It's so messed up yeah, what happened?

Speaker 1 43:37

I yeah, uh, what's the? Is there a thing where, like, so you take a nice key and he put it in somebody's face?

Speaker 4 43:46

Well, it's not that bad. Yeah, that's not that bad.

Speaker 1 43:49

It was actually a hot, it was a warm day. Yeah, it actually did bother.

Musical Analysis and Random Chat

Speaker 4 43:53

Yeah, that's. That's pretty harmless, I guess yeah. Are we gonna killer guitar solo here or what? What's going on? I think we're gonna get a little bit longer of a song at five minutes and 20 seconds.

Speaker 3 44:12

Yeah.

Speaker 1 44:16

Has a very abrupt, and we can kind of just go ahead a little ahead.

Speaker 3 44:21

Oh.

Speaker 4 44:31

I feel like the end of this could be like in apocalypse now or something. Yeah, like when they're in vietnam.

Speaker 1 44:44

Or in class. Maybe I Like listening in order. Yeah like these songs independently are, I think, most albums. People should listen to albums from beginning to end, more to get more out of it.

Speaker 4 45:03

That's the whole point here. Yeah, right, yeah I think it's up and flow. Yeah, I'm doing it. We're gonna have interns. We're gonna dream of interns.

Speaker 1 45:18

Yeah, we too.

Speaker 4 45:22

Chris is dreaming of interns.

Speaker 1 45:24

Yeah, well, there's just a lot of ministry stuff going out here at gnh, you know. So you got it.

Speaker 4 45:34

Yeah, if you want to intern here.

Speaker 1 45:38

The content. You know the content suffers. You know we need Any any go getters out there dazzling display gives a shout out Fire, yeah, no, no, no, fire won't fire you, we're hiring. Oh, yeah, yeah. What do they do to manipulate his voice, or are they not? Is he just kind of Talking into it in some? I don't know.

Speaker 4 46:23

I've just got waves in my mind, man. Okay, I'm by the sea right now, brother.

Speaker 1 46:32

I'm a dude, your idea.

Speaker 4 46:38

I will be there once more is what he's saying. Yeah, oh, oh, oh, ah oh.

Speaker 3 46:51

Yes, Marvin, but okay, jacked it twice since I've been here. Oh, oh. Anybody else's fingers hurt? Oh, I didn't think so.

Speaker 1 47:36

I agree.

Speaker 4 47:40

I'm on the porch, get on the porch.

Speaker 1 47:47

All right I can't even keep up. Could have learned your voice one last time, didn't you? Minefield? This could be my Be, my time about you. Would you hit me? Would you hit me?

Speaker 5 48:01

It's just crazy. You want me to hit you oh.

Speaker 4 48:08

All right whoa, whoa, slow down, guys, slow down In this bizarre taking up by the middle.

Speaker 1 48:20

Whoa, across the bearing home and indicative of my place. Left the porch, left the porch, oh.

Speaker 4 48:29

Oh, okay, uh scale chord progression here thing hear my name.

Speaker 1 48:38

Take a good look. This could be the day. Hold my hand.

Speaker 5 48:46

I just need to say hey, work it, work it baby own it work it. Hey, it's work it only.

Speaker 4 49:28

Oh hey, I'm getting some Tense. Mcgreedyville here. We're in McGreedyville here.

Speaker 1 49:54

Oh yeah, there's something About this album. You know that the mother love bone thing. Really there are some. There are probably a lot of emotions. Oh yeah within like this concert. This guy's must have been really Coming from a place where they could just no touching. Yeah, oh, look at the bear, their soul in the sound.

Speaker 4 50:26

Oh yeah, for sure, yes, you can have at least first is here somewhere.

Speaker 5 50:44

We got it now it's all right yeah.

Speaker 4 50:59

I also just how many years is too many, why I?

Speaker 3 51:03

think what this is also doing, is it's revealing, like their formula.

Speaker 1 51:07

They have these songs that build this crescendo, and then they like repeat it yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, oh oh, yeah, oh they've done that in a few of these songs now. Yeah, that's it. It's bad, it's just uh.

Speaker 3 51:19

Yeah.

Speaker 1 51:22

Which is why you need, you know, a little palette cleanser.

Speaker 4 51:24

I'm not afraid of Lil' O.

Speaker 5 51:26

I'm not afraid anymore.

Speaker 1 51:34

That. Actually, I'm glad you did that because it's like you need that as a mood. You know I don't want to get too in the gutter here. You know it's like hearing. This is a song where, if you're like in the zone, you know it's a beautiful, you know it's very the capturing of the soul.

Speaker 4 51:55

Capturing with its melodic nature here.

Speaker 3 51:58

Yeah.

Speaker 4 52:01

I don't question our existence, I just question our modern needs, wow.

Speaker 1 52:09

The defection of our soul nauseously quick. What this is poetry here this one.

Speaker 3 52:15

Nauseously quick.

Speaker 1 52:23

Shouting. You know what I miss? I miss chocolate quick. That was good.

Speaker 3 52:32

They still have that.

Speaker 1 52:35

Robin doesn't let me have it.

Speaker 4 52:37

You gotta pick your own chocolate beans, yeah. And then you know, add dairy, add some sugar.

Speaker 1 52:47

Psych, you can't do that there's only so much you can take of it.

Speaker 4 52:55

I like those little Giordelli things.

Speaker 1 52:59

There.

Speaker 4 53:01

Little caramel in the middle.

Speaker 1 53:04

Hey, you know, there's no shame in that.

Speaker 3 53:08

Yeah.

Speaker 1 53:10

Shame.

Speaker 4 53:19

I will walk with my face blood. I will walk with my face blood. Shame for not making sense there. Shame.

Speaker 1 53:31

I will walk with my shadow flag into your garden, garden stone.

Speaker 4 53:39

Garden of rock and roll. I don't show, I don't share, I don't need what you have to give what? You have to give.

Speaker 1 54:03

Dancing Display. We didn't do our intel on this song, so I don't know if this is. Is he talking to his dad? Is he talking to his ex-girlfriend? Those seem to be the two villains that are playing really well together. I mean, even if McCready wasn't in Mother Love Bone, I mean he was really empathizing with the solos. This is inspired by the song, the song that's written by the mother of the baby. The song is about the mother of the baby.

Speaker 4 54:42

This is inspired by when President George H W Bush came on television and talked about the United States invasion of Kuwait. Why are we doing this? Where are we going off? Better said, the reaction Can be interpreted as greed, because some people interpret as going off to fight for their country. I will walk with my hands bound. The thing is it was nothing, it was walking away from it. I won't be taken yet I'll go. Garden of Stone represents a cemetery. Oh.

Speaker 3 55:20

Yeah, I knew it was something.

Speaker 1 55:23

Deeper and deeper, exactly, yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 55:33

I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I'm not sure. Yeah, I don't know. I don't care, I don't need the power of each other, yeah.

Speaker 1 56:01

All right, strong, almost a war protest song kind of. Yeah, what was to follow was probably something they couldn't have thought of at then. There was a tension in the world at that time to slow burn Deeper and deeper. Yeah, this is deep, so deeper and deeper was relevant. Yeah, whoa, whoa. All right, change of tempo a little bit.

Speaker 4 56:40

I'm scared here, a little scared on this one.

Speaker 1 56:44

Once we get past it, maybe you'll be feeling not so scared anymore.

Speaker 4 56:48

I don't know, has he checked anywhere?

Speaker 1 56:53

I don't know. Are you checking?

Speaker 3 56:55

with us.

Speaker 1 56:56

I'll try it. I'm gonna try the corner. What can I do?

Speaker 3 57:02

A dish.

Speaker 1 57:06

Oh my nose, it's a computer paper here.

Speaker 3 57:10

I think it was good oh my God, oh my God, oh my God.

Speaker 4 57:49

Oh, the burn.

Speaker 1 57:50

Oh, that's good. And he sinks the burning knife deep. Can't touch the bottom Deep. Yeah, Can't touch the bottom In too deep, in too deep.

Speaker 4 58:05

We must have planned this Burning, touching and deeping, deeper and deeper Touch.

Speaker 5 58:13

Oh, the burning.

Speaker 6 58:14

Oh the burning. The next lyric on the edge of a Christmas clean letter.

Speaker 1 58:20

I'm not coming up with anything. I'm not coming up with anything. I'm not comfortable with that.

Speaker 4 58:27

I need an adult. The edge of a Christmas clean letter. Yeah, is Christmas supposed to be a time of cleanliness or something? I don't know. Clean love. I only know clean love. Yeah, christmas, clean love. Christmas clean love.

Speaker 1 58:48

Young Virgin, young Virgin, young Virgin.

Speaker 3 58:54

Hear from heaven.

Speaker 1 58:56

A little biblical here. Okay, the man above her, she just ain't nothing. She doesn't like to view, she doesn't like to view.

Speaker 3 59:08

What's wrong with the view she doesn't like to view? What is next to a selfie?

Speaker 1 59:16

This is really good when you're brooding. I don't know, it's like you've had a few beers.

Speaker 4 59:21

I don't really like daytime television either. She doesn't like to view. I get it Punch. Warbara Balters needs to retire.

Speaker 1 59:42

What is her status? I don't even know what her status is. She's dead. She has to have died. Let's get that up here For the audience.

Speaker 4 1:00:05

Oh.

Speaker 1 1:00:08

Not too long ago. One year memorial Shout out to Barbara Walters. Rest in peace. She's like 93 or something. Wow, she's an icon, yeah.

Speaker 4 1:00:23

She's an American broadcast journalist icon. The truth is that there was some lead Zeppelin kind of little wrap up there.

Speaker 1 1:00:32

Yeah, okay. Now here's our. What's it called Dainu Mont. This is the Dainu Mont. This is the Last Track.

Speaker 4 1:00:50

That it hit you.

Speaker 3 1:00:55

Never been to fight you.

Speaker 1 1:01:01

How many tracks are on here?

Speaker 4 1:01:02

11.

Speaker 1 1:01:04

This one goes to 11.

Speaker 4 1:01:06

Yeah, I think I'll buy that. I'll buy that.

Speaker 1 1:01:24

This one is 11. This goes to 11. I'll buy that. I see the world Feel the chill. Which way to go? Window sill.

Speaker 4 1:01:43

Shout out to the Bakers out there Fresh high-cross rollers.

Speaker 1 1:01:51

Yeah, shout out to the Bakers. This is like a. It's a reverse Bakers, doesn't it? Is that a thing?

Speaker 4 1:02:00

No A Bakers ripoff.

Speaker 1 1:02:04

Okay, a Bakers short. A Bakers short. Okay, there's 11.

Speaker 4 1:02:18

The Rocking Horse of Time.

Speaker 1 1:02:24

Yeah, the Rocking Horse of Time. I see the birds in the rain. That's cute. Oh, dear dad, yeah, this is the dad Like the real dad. Okay, this is like Grunge Cats in the Cradle.

Speaker 4 1:03:05

Yeah.

Speaker 1 1:03:05

Wow. But now this is deeper, though. That's just sort of like I've turned into my dad, but this is.

Speaker 4 1:03:12

Eddie does surf as well. They flew him up from San Diego to join the band.

Speaker 1 1:03:22

Oh, the real dad.

Speaker 4 1:03:24

Eddie. Eddie Vedder. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 1:03:27

The band flew Eddie Vedder up from San.

Speaker 4 1:03:29

Diego. No, I'm sorry To join the band. Oh yeah, I don't know about his dad.

Speaker 3 1:03:38

I was just going.

Speaker 1 1:03:40

I was just talking about the whole dad thing. I was talking about the Ride, the Wavelier.

Speaker 4 1:03:44

I'll Ride the Wave.

Speaker 1 1:03:46

Really. Oh, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 1:03:48

Yeah, you know what Tasty waves, cool bus, just like dad, yeah.

Speaker 1 1:03:58

I'm thinking in the dark. He's in present day and he's talking to his dad. Uh, who's dad?

Speaker 3 1:04:09

And I'll open up.

Speaker 1 1:04:12

This is like moving past the death of your dad at a premature age. Release me, release me, release me, release me, release me.

Speaker 4 1:04:28

Release me, release me, release me, release me. Good stuff here.

Speaker 1 1:04:42

This is supposed to be the bear clan in tomorrow's band.

Speaker 4 1:04:45

Talk amongst yourselves, it's too heavy.

Speaker 1 1:05:03

I'll give you a topic, Jeremy. He never bit the recessed ladies breasts, nor did his daddy not give him affection to discuss. Why do I do this? This is supposed to be. This is genuinely a very touching moment.

Speaker 3 1:05:31

Touching, no touching.

Speaker 1 1:05:41

So this is like a dead kind of like the.

Speaker 4 1:05:44

Dead space. Skip through. What is it?

Speaker 1 1:05:46

ghost. It's a ghost song like no, you go, you skip through, and then now you're at the beginning. Remember, like the beginning of oh. Yeah, so there's like this little dead space now. This is like a ghost song.

Speaker 4 1:06:02

This is all Pink Floyd II here, right.

Speaker 1 1:06:07

Yeah, the same song snow.

Speaker 4 1:06:08

So does this make any concept album? All of a sudden?

Speaker 1 1:06:12

I think the whole concept album was like Eddie veteran is fucked up childhood and the dad that he he met. One time he had met his dad. Yeah but no, didn't know, it was his dad you know, he really the stepdad was a step, you know they.

Speaker 1 1:06:26

He was lied to like in his childhood. He resents it later and he didn't get. He wasn't given an opportunity to connect, you know, with his dad and he hated the guy that raised him. So it's like this is him working through all that and Like saying release me, you know. Like from you know to his dad, like as an adult. Now he's, yeah, looking back at his as His incomplete self as a child and being a dad to himself and but then, awesome, maybe he's the dad, like he's the little kid he's telling that the adult dad was him. Now to release him.

Speaker 1 1:07:09

Yeah easy champ, I know.

Speaker 4 1:07:12

Time space continuum, yeah. Not psychology, I'm not, I'm nobody, I don't know what now, you're doing, you're doing well, I just think it's interesting sound like Tactics to do this weird little.

Speaker 1 1:07:35

Yeah, that little, this part of it. That was a very, very beginning of the album.

Speaker 4 1:07:38

It's very pretty yeah it's foreshadowing. It's a foreshadowing so if you did a record it would be like To a minute. It's almost like two minutes in dope once. So it'd be like another Contiguous song. Yeah, from when this? When the record would turn over.

Speaker 4 1:08:05

It's true, like if it has a loop, like it looks back to beginning automatically cuz, this is this where we came in, kind of thing with with the wall. Yeah, they do that. Yeah, they start the album and says is this? And then the album ends with the words where we came in and then Says is this where we came in?

Speaker 1 1:08:31

Well, I guess. Well, yeah, background it's not gonna like it's like it's gonna continue to do this, so you want to just like start with our yeah let's start us in the backdrop.

Speaker 4 1:08:40

Yeah, I'm gonna go with this one because because of the creepy track and the great release yeah, release is my number three. Wow, it's also the song I played. So, yeah, I mean sentimental exactly.

Speaker 1 1:08:59

I knew it was good in there at some point in time there.

Speaker 4 1:09:02

Guitar is a good release for stress. And yeah, playing the guitar.

Speaker 1 1:09:09

My number three is gonna be why go? Okay, I just like how it's super rocks like really, really fast and it's heavy and Dangry kind of, and it doesn't pull any punches and it just stays to what it is. And so that was my number three.

Speaker 4 1:09:29

Okay, yeah, I'm gonna go. Why go to Also? Just super punchy amazing. Yeah, you know it hits you that guitar solo too. Let's not forget that. Yeah, yeah, what's, what's your two?

Speaker 1 1:09:51

My number two is porch. Oh, I thought it was just. It was the same kind of a thing. It was really rockin and it was just surprising, you know, being in between oceans and garden. Yeah and so I just like the musicality of that too. It has like a that guitar solo buried in it, yeah that was a really really good guitar solo and so yeah. For that reason it was my number two.

Speaker 4 1:10:16

Okay, honorable mention to porch. Maybe too many as the end, but my number one is gonna be gardens. Nice garden, I should.

Speaker 1 1:10:26

I'm glad yeah.

Speaker 4 1:10:29

You know, I have a green thumb myself. Oh.

Speaker 1 1:10:33

Like a hundred 200 plants every office house, constantly.

Speaker 4 1:10:37

You have more than that probably constantly watering plants, yeah and they're all his babies trying to make you want to let me adopt the garden jungle.

Speaker 1 1:10:44

Yeah, no, they're all his.

Speaker 4 1:10:45

Yeah, yeah do you want a plant? You can have a plant, I know I know.

Speaker 1 1:10:49

Yeah, thank you, I'm good.

Speaker 4 1:10:52

You want to think about giving a plant to people that aren't you know? They inclined to plant like what am I gonna do with this? What is this? Yeah?

Speaker 1 1:11:00

I gotta buy soil now at the fuck. Well, I do. I need one for the, you know, at my desk at work, not necessarily here, but uh, I'll just yeah, I'll hit you if I need.

Speaker 4 1:11:11

You know, I know.

Speaker 1 1:11:12

Everybody needs one exactly. Uh, so my number one is gonna be released that the very last. Like how it's so artsy, it has that ghost, uh part of it At the, at the very end of it, which is like that slow part at the very beginning.

Speaker 1 1:11:28

So it ties everything back and it's a circle and I like how it's. But I like the how it's very melodic and, yeah, sweet and has those deep lyrics and it, and that's why I know that this comes from a genuine place. My, I might. In my childhood. My dad died when I was young too, and so I kind of see what he's doing there Now that I'm a little bit older and I understand, you know how you take care of yourself when you've been, you know, heard as a child and have you have to be your own parent later on.

Speaker 1 1:12:02

He's doing that, he's demonstrating it in the songs, yeah, and I think that's another reason because, I mean, we're not, I mean this is just a part of life and some people lose their their love, the one, sooner in their life rather than later, and there's nothing you could do about it. You know, we're all dealt the hand that we, yeah, are given and um, this is why this resonates, because every time that happens and you lose somebody, when you don't understand it as a kid, he, um, you know, uh, you have to, at some point in time, take care of yourself and come to that realization and come to this moment. Before you can, you know, uh, live a better you know and more natural life well, well said.

Speaker 1 1:12:45

Yeah, and thanks for all the Getting through, all the stupid clips that we, yeah, play, and the immaturity along with the journey you know.

Speaker 4 1:12:52

Yeah, exactly maturity, it makes with you know, immaturity. It's a fine line, it's a circle.

Speaker 1 1:12:58

The fine line between clever and stupid. Yeah, circle what.

Speaker 4 1:13:01

It's a release, the podcast, you know yeah exactly, but yeah, it's a dazzling display.

Speaker 1 1:13:11

Okay, we had, we had an audio issue. Yeah, any last words though.

Speaker 3 1:13:18

Um.

Speaker 1 1:13:21

Yeah we're gonna do some dido we're gonna have A pallic cleanser from the grunge, yeah.

Discussing 90s Music Genres and Artists

Speaker 4 1:13:27

Yeah, I mean, maybe you know what do we got here? Yeah, there's, so I throw some.

Speaker 1 1:13:32

I will give you some hints. I don't, maybe I'll even we'll post it on jamira, qua I got some everclear, maybe you're some Cheryl crow. Yeah, because the 90s had different periods. You know it wasn't all just grunge, it was that was at the beginning. It's smith. I mean kind of paved the way for everything to happen later. But yeah, york, we'll get into some other like more mainstream stuff. I mean I'll do.

Speaker 4 1:13:54

It will do melon Oasis from Manchester, mazy star had one good one album.

Speaker 1 1:14:00

Yeah, we'll do that one too. That'll be a tim one wall flowers.

Speaker 4 1:14:04

If you want to cry, damn, that's a sad album talk about yourselves.

Speaker 1 1:14:09

Uh, but yeah, there's so much good 90s music yeah, and we'll get to it all this year.

Speaker 3 1:14:13

We promise All right, yeah, all right.

Speaker 1 1:14:16

All right, later Take care.

Speaker 3 1:14:17

Thank you.

Speaker 1 1:14:17

Bye, bye.