Nirvana: Nevermind

Have you ever been struck by a chord so powerful it feels like a punch to the gut? That's what happened to us with Nirvana's "Nevermind," an explosive collection of creativity and raw emotion that defined a generation. Strap in as we take you on a nostalgic journey through this seismic album, beyond the well-worn tracks like "Smells Like Teen Spirit," to unearth the top three lesser-known songs that still pack a punch. We’ll share our personal connections to the music, dissect the intricate tapestry of influences, and reflect on the tragic genius of Kurt Cobain. Expect a deep connection with the tracks that became anthems of a youth caught between apathy and passion.

But this isn't just a trip down memory lane. We're connecting the dots between the primal urges coded in our DNA and the lyrical prowess of artists like Radiohead and, of course, Nirvana. Kurt's complex songwriting often echoed his views on society, and we tackle how those messages resonate in today's climate. The episode isn’t without its lighter moments as we find humor in the absurdity of discussing the Federal Reserve in the middle of a music chat. Sol from the Jerky Boys even pops in, offering insights that only enhance our musical dissection. So, tune in for a rollercoaster ride through the poignant, the profound, and the downright funny moments embedded in one of the most groundbreaking albums of all time.

Transcript

Speaker 2 0:30

All right, thank you for listening to Greatest, not Hits. I'm Chris and playing Come as you Are. Second. It's the third song on Nevermind, nirvana's second studio album. Thank you so much for joining us today. We're gonna listen to this album the way we always do we're gonna go through all the songs and then at the end rank Top three, not hits. So thank you again and let's get into this album. This is a monumental, insanely popular album, I think number six by Rolling Stone. Like I said before, it's second studio album by.

Speaker 2 1:11

Nirvana, released September 24th 1991. And here's some important facts about the album. It's often credited with bringing alternative rock and grunge to the mainstream. Huge commercial success. And it reached number one on the US Billboard 200. You know I kind of cover art Boy. You know, baby swimming, you know you can talk about that later. Hit singles it smells like clean spirit Was the clear favorite. There's lithium, come as you Are, which is what he's playing, and the fourth one too, damn it In Bloom, that's right. So those are the songs that we'll listen to, of course.

Speaker 1 2:03

But they'll be excluded from our ranking.

Speaker 2 2:04

The rest of them will rank Cultural impact. It had a significant impact on our culture, for sure. It's just really. It was the whole generation of musicians throughout the 90s. It's grunge, alternative rock. You've heard it. I mean, in other words, no Nirvana. Then there's no Sound Garden, no Pearl Jam. There was all those bands from the Seattle scene in the 90s. What were some of the screaming trees? Mud, honey, alice and James came a little bit after that, started to get a little heavier at, you know, going a little bit more into the mid 90s. But this was the Lynch and this was the catalyst here.

Speaker 2 2:55

This one widespread critical claim, one of the greatest albums of all time. I was produced by Butch Fig who would later form the Van Garbage. I did not know that Band members Kurt Cobain he's the lead singer, vocals died tragically in an overdose 94. We all know about that. Chris Novicellic, bass player, and Dave Grohl, drums, recorded at Sound City Studios in Van Nuys, california. I think it was also a smart studio in Madison, wisconsin, if I'm not mistaken. I think they recorded come as you are, I think, or one of the other ones Maybe, I can't remember. I'll look it up Nevertheless, their legacy continues to this day, they're also this album is in the National.

Speaker 2 3:46

Recording Registry by the Library of Congress for being culturally, historically or aesthetically significant. So behold my personal experience with this album. What really came out was in college, maybe later using college, 21, 22 years old at the time and I remember having a roommate shout out to Robbie B and Chuck D too, from Crossroads that was the band that he was in who did they learn these songs immediately, played him at all the parties and this is all anybody wanted to hear, at least like early 92, all the way through the mid 90s. This was a favorite. So, yeah, my roommate, I remember he played, he learned playing the guitar on this song. I think he was better written from a really bad like RV, ax or RTV accident or RV accident, recreational vehicle, no ATV, remember those three wheelers. He was not a three wheeler, blast up his leg, only had the guitar. So he played, smells like Teen Spirit, but he did it in some sort of like a Spanish. Yeah, that kind of a thing you were doing it earlier.

Speaker 2 5:13

Now your version is better. It's not bad.

Speaker 1 5:24

So yeah, so anyway, this is like those years.

Speaker 2 5:27

This is what was in our heads and I remember. You know, listen to an album you're kind of. You have it in the background Later on. I think it's between something in the way and the song. After that there was like a six minute break and if you weren't ready for it.

Speaker 2 5:43

You know you'd be at a party talking to people and or maybe just like a small group of people three or four people and that goes off. You're thinking like the album's over and you're still talking. It's kind of in the back of your mind. Maybe you stop talking, you just kind of read it and do something and all of a sudden the next song comes up after six and a half minutes. It's like, oh yeah, there was that thing you know. So anyway, we're not going to. That's not going to be a part of what we're going to be listening to. We're just going to go from the one song to the other. But we wanted you to know that that's there, get an original album on vinyl or whatnot. So anyway, I know it's. Yeah, it's not all.

Speaker 2 6:27

Sweet guy man, shout out to a lot of groups. Shout out to the bedwetters no, no. Shout out to the. Shout out to the tea drinkers. Shout out to the runners. Shout out to all of our listeners and our fans. Thank you, keep the keep the mail coming in. I like that, all right. Yeah, a little ukulele by a man, tim. He's been practicing that all week. I can hear from from over here. Plays across the street, on the porch, he can hold neighborhoods loving it. So how are you doing bud?

Speaker 4 7:17

Just a hit on the old block, that's right.

Speaker 2 7:20

You are, you're the chip. You are the chip off of our old block right here.

Speaker 4 7:26

Well, a little chip on shoulder. When I listened to this, I feel like I know man, a little chip.

Speaker 2 7:33

So I mean, what's? This is sort of like in my wheelhouse of my generation when I you know, when you're feeling your coolest kind of a thing, and this is like the album that was just coming out. So this is just like super cool to me, but, like I don't know, this probably came out when you were just a lad and I don't know what was your, what's your, what's your experience like with this song.

Speaker 4 7:55

I mean, I always saw the CD on you know the shelves when you walk around the record store. It was such a striking album cover. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 8:11

It's just the. It was a little, you know, crazy Was he chasing the dollar Right?

Speaker 4 8:17

What does it mean? Yeah, is it a pool? Someone watching this baby? Why a pool? Yeah, what's going on here?

Speaker 2 8:24

That poor kid. What's going to happen? Don't, don't do it. Don't do it.

Speaker 4 8:27

Help him. What the hell is going on? Ah yeah, no it's, it's angsty for sure. Yeah, so angsty.

Speaker 2 8:36

Yeah, that's true. I don't know what that all means, but I mean, yeah, there's a lot to this.

Speaker 4 8:43

I mean, I think it is just the teenage angst and the sort of lost feeling that we try to reckon with. You know, I know.

Speaker 2 8:57

And what smells like teen spirit. Why is that? You know what that is, don't you what it's? A deodorant.

Speaker 6 9:03

For two years. I thought it was normal for a 10 year old to wet the bed.

Speaker 2 9:06

Oh my God, what the hell is that Shout out the bed. By by Mennon, what she's where is it there? Yeah, all right.

Speaker 4 9:17

Well, yeah, I did not know that. You inform me that teen spirit was a deodorant.

Speaker 8 9:21

It's a physical sensation and a person made for you and your generation.

Speaker 2 9:26

I don't remember this, the heart of you.

Speaker 4 9:33

Well, I remember one like uh, sent commercial and it was like maybe from the early 2000s, maybe just from the 90s, but it's like, you know, a guy storms into the room and he's got like a, a press, you know a press box and sort of like this whimsical, like slates of blue are flipping around all futuristically, and he sits down for a second and he goes I'm not going to be the man I'm expected to be anymore. And then he just gets up and storms out of the press conference and then, like these blue slates are swirling and it's like and it's like sent by you know smell like this guy, and it's just like so 90s, you're trying to sell you stuff. It's like consumerism and I think this album is like anti-consumerism, anti, like they're mocking all of that, you know.

Speaker 2 10:24

Yeah, apparently he's a. He's a poor guy. He wore flannel shirts and they weren't cool in the 80s and he and, but when he was wearing them while he was playing, it was just what he had. It wasn't trying to it wasn't intention yet to to make it a fashion thing, and that's all everybody wore after this album was. Everybody were flannel shirts.

Speaker 4 10:45

Yeah, had to be flannel.

Speaker 2 10:46

He even influenced pop culture. The guy who he he? He created an economy around his you know himself when he was really trying to actually rail against it.

Speaker 4 11:00

Yeah, we have a color, we have a fabric, and then we're just going to, like you know, take two stripes and, and, and cut it in half and you know, against it yeah. And then, and then just go real deep with that Deeper and deeper way down. He is a trendsetter. Okay, he is just. You know he can't help himself.

Speaker 2 11:22

He doesn't want to be a trendsetter, but he is.

Speaker 4 11:25

Yeah, he turned down all the you know magazine ads and no, I don't know if they. I don't know if they just take it easy, champ, I don't know if they had those why?

Speaker 9 11:36

don't you stop talking for a while?

Speaker 4 11:38

You probably would have been, maybe sit.

Speaker 9 11:39

The next couple plays out.

Speaker 4 11:40

He would have been in those ads, but you know if Well he had.

Speaker 2 11:46

you know he achieved bigger and better things and just you know, being in a deodorant, ad.

Speaker 7 11:55

You know what you yeah, it is Well.

Speaker 4 11:59

And also I just want to talk about how you know, even though I grew up with these songs like they were played so much in the 90s, I don't know, maybe the hits smells like Teen Spirit Come as you Are, bloom, a couple other of these ones I like the hits but I don't know, some of the non hits are, are stretch. I mean, for me they're okay, they're okay. I mean listening to this album again. I've never. I mean coming in cold to the, the non hits here, I would say, because the hits were so in your face and I guess Polly was a hit on the local radio station and the local radio station that's now Christian Rock, ripw, wrnr but is this here they used to play what, even here, where we live?

Speaker 4 12:56

where we live, yeah, I'm sorry, but they used to play Nirvana and Polly particularly a lot. I felt like.

Speaker 2 13:04

I think it's a don hit. I was gonna consider that you want to make that a hit then there.

Speaker 4 13:08

No, I think it can be an on hit, it's fine.

Speaker 2 13:10

Yeah, I'm hoping yeah, that definitely can be an on hit, but well, listen, let's do this, I mean let's listen to the album, because I think I want to try to change your mind.

Speaker 4 13:21

Yeah, I'm not a big grunge fan. I mean like Pearl Jam, I like Nirvana, but I'm not a huge grunge fan.

Speaker 2 13:26

Okay, so this isn't my. I'm not gonna do anything.

Speaker 4 13:28

There's a self-prescribed. I mean maybe, maybe I'm a little frayed. Well, you're a little frayed.

Speaker 2 13:35

Okay, well, let's I hope.

Speaker 4 13:36

Maybe I need a little bird stripping before we start. Okay, I'm scared.

Speaker 2 13:44

Okay, well, ah, let's go angsty. Yeah, all right, here's smells like teen spirit.

Speaker 4 13:51

I'm afraid.

Speaker 2 14:02

All right, we're off.

Speaker 4 14:07

It's contagious, slowly growing on me. All right.

Speaker 7 14:19

It's a physical sensation.

Speaker 4 14:27

Shout to the fishers. You know, fishermen, fisherwomen.

Speaker 2 14:32

Load up your guns.

Speaker 7 14:36

Smoothly and safe. You don't just jerk it out. That's dangerous.

Speaker 2 14:48

Shout to Sal Rosemary. Hello, hello, hello. Hello.

Speaker 4 14:59

That was us. That's not. They're not. A people are gonna come after us. I know it. This is. This is the week. It's a mulatto are you all by?

Speaker 2 15:18

no shout to Larry David.

Speaker 4 15:26

Shout to the pale people.

Speaker 2 15:28

That's right.

Speaker 4 15:31

Yeah.

Speaker 1 15:33

Yeah.

Speaker 4 15:40

It's technical here.

Speaker 2 15:41

It's technical, oh, hashtag blessed shout out to all the blessed.

Speaker 4 15:57

Shout out to those. Shout to those are gonna wait till the end. And here are the greatest non hits. On this one, I don't think mine will surprise you that much.

Speaker 2 16:08

Oh, you already know.

Speaker 4 16:09

I kind of know it's always. It's always what hello, it's always a little hit or miss. Sometimes it's different. Right you know, depending on what you, you know, you pick, and all that right, yeah, that's true. It's a mulatto, are you all by no, yeah. Shout to John Mulaney impersonating. Shout to Kurt Cobain. Mick Jagger yeah, shout to Mick Jagger.

Speaker 2 16:53

It's a killer guitar solo. He's singing, he's doing this. This is he's amazing. I mean it's not a guitar solo, but it's still a cool. It's like a riff.

Speaker 4 17:03

It's a really, really catchy riff and Dave Grohl is crushing it.

Speaker 2 17:09

Yeah, the drums are so aggressive, yeah bass and drum bass fills in the space very well.

Speaker 4 17:14

I mean it's it's hard. It's just a three piece. I mean, this is just three guys. This is amazing.

Speaker 2 17:22

I know what do you think, saul. Hello.

Speaker 4 17:24

Okay, somebody Page him in. I guess it makes him smile. Never mind, just oh, never mind. Yeah, just never never mind, never mind. I had a thought. I don't know what it was. Smoothing, I don't feel stupid, it's a mulatto. Are you not entertained? Here we are, entertain us, a denial, a denial.

Speaker 7 18:29

Smoothing, you don't just jerk it.

Speaker 11 18:43

Look at this. Enhance your outer beauty with your inner beauty.

Speaker 2 18:46

Yeah, shout to Pauli, shore little 90s action post script with Pauli shore or it's a yeah. We need to get back to the nine, early 90s. It's a yeah underappreciated All right Wait should we get some birds?

Speaker 4 19:04

Hold on.

Reproductive Glands and Music Discussion

Speaker 2 19:04

Yeah, it's for a little palate cleanser, just Okay. Oh yeah, we need something a little bit opposite of that, just to cleanse the palate, the be no His libido libido.

Speaker 4 19:29

Talk amongst talking about his libido. Oh my gosh, the hell, I know Gosh.

Speaker 2 19:39

Yeah, that's an appropriate for corporate environment. This is very unprofessional.

Speaker 4 19:48

So the kids for food, okay, that's good.

Speaker 2 19:51

Yeah, can we tone that down a little bit?

Speaker 4 19:54

Radiohead has the lyric cut the kids in half in the 90s on one of their albums. So you know this is when the rejection of having children in your early 20s comes from. Maybe, Maybe, A slippery slope man. Watch out for your libido. Save that libido. A spring is here, Little birds. Redo glands. Oh God, talk about libido and reproductive glands here.

Speaker 1 20:31

Oh, Is this vision to see?

Speaker 7 20:42

You see, if you're not familiar with firearms, these babies can go off.

Speaker 4 21:04

Now, what does he mean?

Speaker 2 21:08

I mean, I think this is all about like don't go out with a loaded gun. Maybe, figuratively and literally, you know, there's like the sex part of it, or you know the reproductive part, so to speak, of likes to shoot his gun. This is kind of like a, you know, like a blooming.

Speaker 4 21:26

Yeah.

Speaker 2 21:26

Like life. I don't know. I mean, maybe this is things are in code here, the other words that have dual meanings and all that. Nature is a whore. I mean that's.

Speaker 4 21:37

Nature is not a whore. Take that back. Yes, it is?

Speaker 2 21:40

There's a freaking whore. It just sleeps with the whole damn planet. What?

Speaker 4 21:45

That makes no sense yeah. It's breathing, and it's well, maybe you, it's universe is just you know it's procreating with all different forms of life.

Speaker 2 21:53

What could be more hourish than that Right?

Speaker 4 21:55

It's just split into infinity, and then it splits into infinity every spring. Well, splitting divine intervention, divine spreading your seed all over the.

Speaker 2 22:06

That's gross.

Speaker 4 22:07

I mean you know every, and then we shoot it down. Right yeah, we all shoot it down. Yeah, if you're familiar with firearms.

Speaker 11 22:17

It's a wonder you're giving me a semi.

Speaker 2 22:23

So yeah, don't go and load a gun.

Speaker 7 22:24

It's the thing, smoothly and safely. You don't just jerk it out, that's dang.

Speaker 4 22:29

You know also, it's just.

Speaker 7 22:34

You see, if you're not familiar with firearms, these babies can go off.

Speaker 2 22:39

Preach Don. Now.

Speaker 4 22:44

This is a good little catchy solo.

Speaker 2 22:46

Yeah, this is what it's on, it's a rock and nice little solo. He likes to sing long. He likes all our pretty songs, but he doesn't know what they need.

Speaker 4 23:13

He also doesn't like rednecks because of where he's right, he's like, has a disdain for rednecks, macho man, abusive, abusive people and he said that this song was an attack on these people.

Speaker 2 23:29

Because an Aberdeen Washington, when you know, shout out to Aberdeen, except that people didn't like Kurt Cobain. They're probably not going to listen to this anyway.

Speaker 4 23:42

Right, exactly, I mean they'll come around. You can shoot some guns in this song, that's right.

Speaker 2 23:54

It's a power, all right. So we're two down. Neither of the both of those are hit, so we're not going to. That's kind of going to be in our all the all of the stuff that's up for considerations later on.

Speaker 4 24:04

So that's true.

Speaker 2 24:07

Any comments? Anecdotes.

Speaker 4 24:11

Yeah, and actually I know we're good. I had a thought, I just forgot, I slipped out.

Speaker 2 24:17

Yeah, you can. You can share it in while we listen. There's a lot of calm parts in the song, yeah where we can fill it in, and this is a banter.

Speaker 4 24:27

The killing. What was it?

Speaker 2 24:32

No, I don't have a gun.

Speaker 4 24:35

Killing, killing, joke song in the 80s. 80s are over, we're in the 90s now. Yeah, no time for memory, memoria, and then. Teens time then. Memoria. A little Spanish guitar here, yeah.

Speaker 2 25:11

I mean just to break this up, right yeah.

Speaker 4 25:17

Yeah, memoria. The song was so similar to the killing joke 85 song 80s that Nirvana considered holding off releasing the song as a single Killing joke considered legal action. But when Kurt died they decided not to sue because life's fucking shortmate, we could have been fishing or something sensible.

Speaker 1 25:43

Okay.

Speaker 4 25:44

Lead singer Jazz Coleman explained yeah, no.

Speaker 2 25:48

I don't know what he was talking about.

Speaker 4 25:49

And then Dave Grohl was a big fan of Killing Joke and helped them out by playing drums on their 2003 self-titled album. Interesting.

Speaker 2 25:58

Oh really. Check that out. I mean, what the Foo Fighters afterwards Right.

Speaker 4 26:09

This eerie eerie clips.

Speaker 2 26:14

Yeah, dave Grohl didn't miss a beat man, he just went straight from here into. I mean, he just you know, no bacellage, Just he went into politics, I think the bass player and then Dave Grohl's huge Foo Fighters and stuff. Interesting how the other two guys, how they had different career paths, they still seem like they're bros.

Speaker 4 26:37

Yeah, kurt had a disruptive childhood, you know. Yeah, it was, you know.

Speaker 6 26:47

Yeah, but we don't want to talk about that, okay, okay, sorry, remember that, yeah.

Speaker 2 26:59

That was a dumb dumb, or he's like he's got a gun. Yeah, mary Mary.

Speaker 4 27:04

He's got a gun. He's got a gun. Yeah, you do.

Speaker 1 27:10

He's got a gun.

Speaker 2 27:13

He's got a gun. Yeah, you do. All right, it's enough of that. Yeah, it's like too eerie.

Speaker 4 27:28

You would make fun of almost. Yeah, it's like there's a lot of potential like heroin references Stepped in bleach, dowsing mud soaked in bleach. Yeah encouraging heroin users to soak their needles and bleach before injecting.

Speaker 6 27:48

Yeah, but we don't want to talk about that, okay, sorry.

Speaker 4 27:52

Okay, shout out, paulie. Okay, thank you, paulie. All right, get me out of that one.

Speaker 2 27:57

Yeah, that was sad.

Speaker 4 27:58

It is sad. You know this one is called Breed Reality. People want to escape.

Speaker 2 28:10

I think this one.

Speaker 4 28:10

Don't be famous.

Speaker 2 28:11

Yeah, now, this song was like one of the most challenging to record. I mean, it's got a pretty fast beat, it's a ramp in pace.

Speaker 1 28:19

Yeah.

Speaker 4 28:29

This is trapped, being about trapped in middle America here. Middle class America. Yeah, shout out to the middle class out there. Hope you're listening.

Speaker 2 28:44

No well the middle class loved this at the time. I mean, if you're in your 40s, 50s and 60s, this is, this is our. You know, this is our soundtrack and at the time it was just fun. This is a fun song, you know, people were dancing this.

Speaker 4 28:59

You could wet your bed to this yeah.

Speaker 6 29:02

The two years. I thought it was normal for a 10 year old to wet the bed. I'm not afraid anymore.

Speaker 2 29:09

See you coming along.

Speaker 4 29:11

Yeah, I am Coming around.

Speaker 2 29:12

You're not afraid anymore. Punk crunch.

Speaker 4 29:13

You're afraid that you're getting. You know it's not as scary as it's made out to be.

Speaker 2 29:20

Just that, you know it's a little scary still but it was a controlled Like because you had the mosh pits. This is kind of this is a perfect song. That like led to the mosh pit kind of thing, which I think was scary, my gosh.

Speaker 2 29:41

Later on. But it just got out of control. This is like at the very beginning of it. It was fun, I mean it was controlled, and it just seemed like it got nuts at the very end of the night. It was like with Woodstock, that whole thing, that was bad Right, like that was sort of like the aftershocks where everybody was all kind of burnt out and pissed off and angry, you know, of all the stuff built up over years, not just because of this kind of music, but just Gen X was outnumbered by the Baby Boom generation and so we had no points and that was always frustrating. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 30:20

I mean it's true. Please, it's so true Play in the house and build a tree. I love that we can play in the house.

Speaker 2 30:46

We can build a tree. Look at this.

Speaker 11 30:56

Enhanced your outer beauty with your inner beauty. It's a wonder you're giving me a semi. All right.

Speaker 7 31:03

Okay, smoothly and safely, you don't just jerk it out.

Speaker 2 31:09

All right, lithium, this is a hit.

Speaker 4 31:15

Shout out to the new friends out there. It's hard to get solid new friends.

Speaker 2 31:22

Shout out to the old friends.

Speaker 4 31:23

After you're not going to, you know, adult daycare, young adult daycare in high school. You know, yeah, it's technical over here. It's technical, yeah, it's a lonely cause they're just playing guitar in their garage, not coming out for a long time, eating tuna, fish, peanut butter sandwiches, watching TV maybe a little bit, just to get some fucked up inspiration.

Speaker 2 32:32

Take it easy champ. I'm not afraid anymore.

Speaker 4 32:40

Now he's saying he's horny, oh God.

Speaker 2 32:43

I know we don't care.

Speaker 4 32:45

Organs. There's no organs on this Going off the rails, yeah, there is no.

Speaker 2 32:54

Yeah, that's true, though I mean no sense, no sense, we're done with it. No, oregon yeah.

Speaker 4 32:59

We are hard lined, done with Cynthia.

Speaker 2 33:02

You can forget about Brian you know, for at least a few years yeah.

Speaker 4 33:06

Toto, no fucking way, you're a Toto fan. You're cracking right now. You're cracking. This is like ha.

Speaker 2 33:17

God bless you. If you're a Seals and Croft Nirvana hybrid fan, you know.

Speaker 4 33:25

Yeah, that's like it's a great combination.

Speaker 2 33:35

Trying to think like the polar opposite. Harper Valley PTA who's I can't remember Well, I mean, the country's a whole other thing. Thing like Yacht Rock would be. I like both.

Speaker 9 34:06

You see, if you're not familiar with fire.

Speaker 4 34:13

What the amazd drug used by doctors and psychiatrists, psychiatrists.

Speaker 2 34:19

Psychiatrists.

Speaker 4 34:21

Psychiatrists Treat patients with manic depressive disorder. Interesting bipolar. What, oh, did not know that?

Speaker 2 34:36

It seems kind of this is back in the olden days, you know where they didn't get the medicine right for the condition they didn't have. Like if you had a cold, it was like, oh, let's do some bloodletting yeah.

Speaker 4 34:52

Oh God, bloodletting. They considered lithium as one of the names for their groups actually.

Speaker 2 35:01

They consider it what.

Speaker 4 35:03

Luthium.

Speaker 2 35:04

Like the song of the drug.

Speaker 4 35:06

The word lithium as a band name.

Speaker 2 35:09

Oh, they consider it.

Speaker 4 35:10

Yeah, that's what I'm reading here, and that's it.

Speaker 2 35:17

Yeah, I like it, I'm not sure. Yeah, all right. All right, this is Polly non hit.

Speaker 11 35:23

It's Warner, you're giving me a semi.

Speaker 2 35:28

Shout to Polly Polly Shore with an OLLY versus the PAULI.

Speaker 4 35:39

You sold PD, you sold her dead bird.

Speaker 9 35:42

Beaty Dirty wings, let me take a ride.

Speaker 2 35:52

Cut yourself.

Speaker 4 35:54

Oh gosh.

Speaker 9 35:55

Once a man, be myself, got some room. Haven't told, promise you Haven't true.

Speaker 4 36:06

This is about the kidnapping of a 14 year old girl.

Speaker 9 36:08

Cut yourself Once a man. We don't want to talk about that.

Speaker 11 36:15

Okay, sorry.

Speaker 4 36:18

Exactly. Jeez, this is like we're trying to make light of this, but yeah. This is pretty how do you make this fun. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 9 36:30

Ask me to untie her Jeez, isn't it?

Speaker 1 36:40

Oh man.

Speaker 9 36:41

I like the music part of it. Dirty wings, let me take a ride. Cut yourself Once a man, be myself. Got some room, haven't told Promise you, haven't true? Let me take a ride, cut yourself Once a man Be myself.

Speaker 4 37:15

This is really well recorded here.

Speaker 9 37:19

She has a butch vig. She's just as bored as me.

Speaker 4 37:26

Lots of little tricks come out in this one.

Speaker 9 37:30

Meases me the will of instinct. Isn't me having seed? Let me clear dirty wings. Let me take a ride. Cut yourself Once a man, be myself. Got some room.

Speaker 4 37:51

Shout out to the readers out there Don't get bored, pick up a good book.

Speaker 2 37:59

Haven't true.

Speaker 4 38:00

Let me take a ride. Cut yourself Once a man, be myself, be myself.

Speaker 2 38:11

Be myself, be myself.

Speaker 4 38:15

Be myself, be myself. Alright, nice, a-right.

Speaker 2 38:26

Okay, we had to go to the puller opposite. Now, now that we got that out of the way, we're again going to go to now Territorial pissings. Okay, so they're mocking.

Speaker 6 38:44

In two years. I thought it was normal for a 10 year old to wet there.

Speaker 2 38:47

Okay, enough of that. Tim, why should?

Speaker 4 38:52

Come on, people, now An alien.

Speaker 2 39:00

Yeah, I mean, the words are really depressing, but I love music. I mean that's. That's what's so almost frustrating about this.

Speaker 4 39:15

This is a lot of punk here.

Speaker 2 39:24

I Mean it's kind of resonated with a lot of people who suffered from abuse In, you know, in their childhood, who are now looking their early adulthood. You know what I'm saying. This is sort of the, the wheelhouse of how to wear the leaders. Yeah, I think.

Speaker 4 39:44

I Relating to the way Kurtz saw Native Americans straight around his hometown of Aberdeen.

Speaker 2 39:53

Yeah, bullies. This is a revolt against assholes and bullies. Yeah and then who are the same guys that are that you know exist today? You?

Speaker 4 40:01

know, don't be a bully. Yeah, face your issues, sort it out, mate. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 40:08

Just somebody. Uh, I'm not gonna hurt you. It doesn't mean you have to hurt others.

Speaker 4 40:15

Bullies are weak.

Speaker 2 40:18

Yeah.

Speaker 4 40:26

Like you know, please don't put me in a locker. You know that'd be great. Please, please don't.

Speaker 7 40:43

Oh, my god well, thank you very much, but.

Speaker 4 40:52

Okay, all right, oh my gosh, all right, all right wait hold on.

Speaker 2 40:57

Yeah, we can't wait. Hold on, let's just do a little more uh.

Speaker 4 41:02

A little summer breeze.

Speaker 2 41:12

Shining in the window. Things all right, little slay shining in the window.

Speaker 4 41:26

Don't, don't let it drain you all right.

Speaker 2 41:28

Don't let the punk drain you all right, ready for drain, you all right.

Speaker 4 41:34

I'm afraid.

Speaker 2 41:37

Don't be afraid, we'll check him at the end of the song. It's traveling through a tube, oh hell, that's like drug stuff, I think, because like you have a tube when you shoot up.

Speaker 4 42:04

It's something I'm gonna throw up. I'm being lightheaded.

Speaker 2 42:07

Well, yeah, no, this isn't pleasant stuff, but yeah.

Speaker 4 42:14

Oh god, I Dialated.

Speaker 2 42:24

That's kind of a cool line that I so dilated. I become your people oh taught me everything about a poison apple. I.

Speaker 4 42:45

Shove the back humor's out there, the meat you hers shout out to the fluid.

Speaker 2 42:52

God bless you people. I said you people. That's the first time I've said that like you, people, you people, you people. Yeah, I don't know if I like that you people.

Speaker 11 43:06

Look at this and hence your outer beauty container, beauty enhances. I'm not afraid anymore.

Speaker 1 43:20

I.

Speaker 2 43:26

This. That wasn't necessary. That's a.

Speaker 4 43:32

None of this is so the devil as you shout out, chris is sitting next to me shout out, brother, I Feel like I'm in an auto mechanic shop or something. Right now. I'm getting my sounds my brake pads readjusted. Yeah, as well as falling off a cliff into Satan's realm or some shit like that.

Speaker 2 44:04

Well, we're back to purgatory, kind of we're back. Yeah, word.

Discussion of Nirvana's Album "Nevermind"

Speaker 4 44:10

Which woke up in her. Our beds are a little wet, little moist From coming back from the gates of hell. Yeah oh. Yeah, hopefully your regimen ends. Forget remembering and forgetting pills, you know yeah it's the worst.

Speaker 2 45:04

Wow, okay, should we go to a palette cleanser, maybe you?

Speaker 4 45:08

check in with Saul we can. Hello, hello, hello okay.

Speaker 2 45:15

Hey, saul, we're going right in the lounge. Okay, that's fine. Yeah, no palette cleanser, that's right, we'll do the next time. That wasn't too bad with this one.

Speaker 4 45:33

It's not. It's not bad.

Speaker 2 45:34

Well, they went after this. I.

Speaker 4 45:36

Kind of like this one.

Speaker 2 45:39

Okay.

Speaker 4 45:42

It's up. It's up their alley yeah. Yeah it's kind of poppy, it's a little rock. Oh yeah, it's got a little rock out to it.

Speaker 2 46:02

You know, what we forgot to mention was how Paul Paulie is so Influenced by gigantic from Pixies. Okay, it listened to the Pixies episode. We talked about Paulie. Yeah, I know I'm going back to that, but yeah, jack and yeah that was a has. All you do at this song, well, but I like this one too. This is lounge after. It's grooving, it's rocking, it's. It gives you a lifeline into the group here. You know, just sort of like Nirvana and training wheels, yeah it is Truth covered in security.

Speaker 2 46:58

Like truth covered is curious. That's kind of cool Well yeah, this is. Rest myself and wear a shield. Yeah, that's kind of like a police badge.

Speaker 4 47:17

You don't need those stinking badges.

Speaker 2 47:19

Okay, okay.

Speaker 4 47:33

Still smell. Smell her on you.

Speaker 2 47:41

Okay, all right, here's this. We need a there's a power cleanser here.

Speaker 11 48:00

Deeper and deeper.

Speaker 2 48:04

You got to sit here until they get to the smile on your brother. You can make the mountains ring. Fast forward 15 seconds.

Speaker 4 48:17

Okay just wait.

Speaker 2 48:39

All right, we got there Okay cool one another.

Speaker 11 48:42

It's Warner. You're giving me a semi. All right Enough of that.

Speaker 2 48:46

All right, so we're back to the album. This is stay away. I like that. That was good. You like that little?

Speaker 4 48:52

that was good.

Speaker 2 48:53

You can't go this out now or else you're gonna lose your mind.

Speaker 4 48:57

Yeah, it's, we already have it's. The mind is the first thing that goes with this album.

Speaker 2 49:02

I know well, I mean, if you're still with us, god, god bless you Just chasing a dollar, yeah, in a chlorinated pool.

Speaker 4 49:11

Doing this for free, cake us up. Yeah exactly cake us up here. Paypal Moven yeah, all those Can yell into my zeal. Hey.

Speaker 2 49:30

Stay away from my bank account. Give me an inch, give me something. Fashion shits, fashion styles.

Speaker 4 49:40

That's kind of cool. Flannel, flannel.

Speaker 2 49:45

These are my fashion shits. You like it?

Speaker 4 49:48

flannel is my fashion shit. Yeah. Stay away. Thank you very much. Thank you, but please stay away. Yeah, you know what I kind of want to stay away from the rest of the song.

Speaker 2 50:07

Oh yeah, Because basically a lot of the same yeah next, yeah, yeah next yeah, next. On a plane.

Speaker 9 50:31

Oh.

Speaker 4 50:34

Oh, it's not good. I Kind of the first ethos here going on. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know, kurt, not sure I.

Speaker 1 51:13

Had okay.

Speaker 2 51:20

Yeah, you said that a few times, so.

Speaker 9 51:26

Oh.

Speaker 4 51:28

Blackmailed.

Speaker 2 51:32

This is before. A female Actually had to write somebody a letter like, put a stamp on it and put it in a mailbox. They got to somebody like two or three days later.

Speaker 4 51:47

That was wild. Yeah, we're wild times. I remember when a stamp was 33 cents.

Speaker 2 51:54

Crazy, crazy. I remember when they were five, five cents yeah well, no, no inflation. No, well, I remember, yeah, like 13 cents.

Speaker 4 52:06

Alan Greenspan can suck it.

Speaker 2 52:09

Yeah, I think he was the the fair, the chair Chairman of the federal reserve, during the salvo suck it.

Speaker 4 52:17

I'm more of a Bernanke fan, or oh, I'm not a fed and the fed All right.

Speaker 2 52:27

And the opinions expressed on this show do not necessarily represent.

Speaker 4 52:33

The greatest nine hits. I'm sure Kurt would get behind me on that. Maybe he was around.

Speaker 2 52:41

Gotta keep those interest rates straight. I'm gonna step another gas Maybe. I don't know. I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 4 52:49

I'm afraid of money.

Speaker 2 52:52

I know.

Speaker 4 52:53

I don't even know what I would do with a lot of money.

Speaker 2 52:57

I mean, I could help you out with that.

Speaker 4 52:59

I throw it into a pool off.

Speaker 2 53:01

Yeah, you throw in a pool throw in a pool. They pull some Saltwater investment.

Speaker 4 53:07

I don't know, saltwater, no chlorine.

Speaker 2 53:12

Yeah, that's, uh, that's pure gasoline. I'm not afraid anymore. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 4 53:21

If you got a pool, you can't complain. You put the pond pond for you. Yeah, pond'd be good for you. Oh, I like that.

Speaker 2 53:31

I can't like this. It's a nice transition, something in the way.

Speaker 4 53:40

It's the second to last.

Speaker 1 53:41

Yeah. That's Wow.

Speaker 2 54:27

Yeah, yeah, shout out to the fish eaters.

Speaker 1 54:43

Yeah.

Speaker 2 54:46

Living off of grass and tripping is a problem in ceiling. Yeah that's not that's more than grass, is that I normally pass on grass, but what I don't, it's, yeah, ceiling.

Speaker 4 55:03

That's all I'm saying you got, you got that trippy ceiling ganch. Oh well, that was on the stage.

Speaker 2 55:14

But Well, I mean, it's a pretty much a repetition of the the first stanza the words are kind of the same.

Speaker 4 55:29

And that's pretty much the whole song. I mean dolphins have feelings, don't they?

Speaker 2 55:33

What the fuck is he talking about? There's a ton of fish there. Feelings, right?

Speaker 4 55:37

Yeah, next All right.

Speaker 2 55:40

But I mean, you're not going to reason with a heroin addict, so what?

Speaker 4 55:44

are you going to say Exactly, or a dolphin junkie?

Speaker 2 55:48

Yeah, but there's like a six minute thing between what we just heard and this oh, I can totally. Yeah, because all of a sudden like you feel that that makes sense. Yeah, six, six minutes. Or sometimes you fall asleep after hearing that song and all of a sudden this will come on. You wake up and you're like I'm fine, yeah.

Speaker 4 56:05

I don't know, oh God, you would wake up definitely.

Speaker 2 56:25

We're going to have to listen to the entire album with summer breeze. Oh God, oh God, no moss is what's being. What Like? No more. Is that a loss. I'm not afraid anymore. My help, die help, die help.

Speaker 4 57:07

Die help. No, you got Paulie in there.

Speaker 2 57:20

I think that guitar it sounds like very Aerosmith. Ok, there's all kinds of reverb and feedback and who's the bassist again? Chris Novicellich. Yeah shout to Chris on this one yeah, his bass playing is good on this. Yeah, good, good, catch on it. We used to close up shows to this one yeah, this is no nuts, and then it would be the end of the show. Oh really, just like walk off, maybe destroy some of the equipment, kind of like a who, and then sort of leave.

Speaker 4 58:01

I'm sure the sound tech guy loved that.

Speaker 2 58:04

We're very considerate, were they? Well.

Speaker 4 58:08

I had to kind of appeal to their audience.

Speaker 2 58:13

Yeah, well yeah.

Speaker 4 58:22

Where does it go from here? There's literally like four minutes left on this song.

Speaker 2 58:30

I don't even want to find out, or no?

Speaker 4 58:32

I mean.

Speaker 2 58:38

I think we're too sober.

Speaker 4 58:41

I don't know. Yeah, I mean, I kind of like the feedback.

Speaker 2 58:44

Yeah.

Speaker 4 58:47

But Dave Grohl just kind of Laying it down.

Speaker 2 58:52

Is it a Tom Tom or did he do the bass? He's just kicking the bass.

Speaker 1 59:00

Whoa.

Speaker 4 59:06

Yeah, all right, we're going to skip ahead a little bit here.

Speaker 2 59:13

All right, this is where he goes to hell. He goes to jail, oh, oh gosh, excuse me. Yeah, Tim, you know, if you're sick, go to the hospital.

Speaker 4 59:28

Oh God, I've ingested some old deodorant from the 80s. It's in my colon.

Speaker 2 59:35

Oh, it's tearing the ass out of me. It's soft. Oh hello. Hello. Shout out to him. Oh gosh.

Speaker 4 59:57

This is after my pineapple cucumber cleanse. I'm just like.

Speaker 11 1:00:01

Wait, just a minute.

Speaker 4 1:00:04

I had tacos last night.

Speaker 2 1:00:07

Too much Tata sauce on the fish and chips.

Speaker 4 1:00:10

So much Tata.

Speaker 7 1:00:14

Little hargery Pete.

Speaker 2 1:00:17

That little lactose intolerant. It's technical.

Speaker 11 1:00:23

Ah Deeper and deeper.

Speaker 2 1:00:34

Just a little green tape Shout out to Neosporin.

Speaker 4 1:00:44

All right, we're going to skip ahead a little bit more and we're going to pin it down and we're going to. We're going to take away the air supply. Take away the air supply Smoothly and softly.

Speaker 7 1:01:06

You don't just jerk it out. That's dangerous.

Speaker 2 1:01:08

That's dangerous, all right, whoa, yeah, that was out of control. So hey, you know you got to give it to the lads at least, for you know just all the effort. There's a lot of care that was put into that.

Speaker 4 1:01:24

I don't know, it was very technical there. It was kind of a filler. I feel like an angsty filler at the end.

Speaker 2 1:01:31

Yeah, yeah, they needed to fill up some extra space on the album, but, oh God, all right. Well, let's just get to the. I think I'm ready. Heavy number three.

Speaker 4 1:01:42

That's my number three, endless and nameless, just because of the sort of I don't know expression, of you know creative expression. That's kind of like off the cuff there. I kind of like it.

Speaker 2 1:02:01

Okay.

Speaker 4 1:02:02

I mean, that's fair.

Speaker 2 1:02:03

Yeah, it was very unconventional.

Speaker 4 1:02:05

The death and go to the hell part the hell, I don't really.

Speaker 2 1:02:12

It's a little scary, but yeah, but I mean it had all kinds of themes to it.

Speaker 4 1:02:18

Yeah.

Speaker 2 1:02:20

I mean. Number three is going to be for me breed Nice, because I like the tempo of it. I like how they are in sync, despite the speed of it, and it's very punk and it's very raw and energetic and it just it kicks ass. So that's going to be my number three.

Speaker 4 1:02:39

What's your favorite hit on the album actually?

Speaker 2 1:02:42

Uh.

Speaker 4 1:02:44

Is that a hard question?

Speaker 2 1:02:47

I'll say Smells Like Teen Spirit.

Speaker 4 1:02:49

Okay.

Speaker 2 1:02:49

Yeah, of all of them, I like the, I like the guitar, like the riff.

Speaker 4 1:02:54

I'm going to go, come as you Are, yeah.

Speaker 2 1:02:57

Oh wait, of the hits yeah yes for hits.

Speaker 4 1:03:01

Umphrey's McGee has a version of Come as your Kids by MGMT, and Come as you Are is one song. It's kind of cool.

Speaker 2 1:03:11

Check that out.

Speaker 4 1:03:12

But anyway, back to my number two. I didn't know about that Honorable Menton to Lounge Act, but I'm going to go. I'm going to go. What was the song? That was really soft, something in the way. Yeah, something in the way.

Speaker 2 1:03:38

That's my number two. Sorry, I shouldn't have done that, but tell me what your reason was.

Speaker 4 1:03:43

No, I mean, it just needed that palette cleanser a little bit of a of a preve. That made it all the more special, I think.

Speaker 2 1:03:54

Yeah, when you listen to it in the context of the album, it's a lot better than verses, like just listening to it as a single. Yeah, you hear the songs in a much different way after you've heard, after you've been listening to all the songs leading up to it, right, and so, as it fits into the larger body of the album, it sounds much better and for that reason it's my number two. Okay, it's soft and it's kind of it's very calm and soothing and I liked it for that reason. So that's my number two as well.

Speaker 4 1:04:37

Okay. Well, I guess everybody's just dying to get that number one from me, please. That's Paulie, that's Paulie, yeah that's Paulie Paulie's into my number one yeah, just because it's slower, it's got a little tricks of the trade and recording of it it's sort of a mid-middle energy level. It's not 211, but it's not to like two or three, right, it's great. It's a great song. Yeah, the raw acoustic of it, yeah, I only want a cracker. It's still haunting.

Speaker 2 1:05:26

Right.

Speaker 4 1:05:27

Yeah.

Speaker 2 1:05:27

And it's my number one too. I think this is the reason why Pixies need to be. This is why we had a Pixies episode for the album that has Gigantic on it, because it's a direct influence that's clearly shown on this song. Yeah, but there's much better and more clever word play on this song versus a lot of the songs on the Pixies. You can disagree, and it's fine. I think I'll be argument for that, but that's what it's a part of the reason why this album is so revered.

Speaker 4 1:06:03

I was very impressed by the lyrics. I think I never really gave them that much thought until tonight they're very dark and they're really kind of disturbing Right. I just thought it was a lot of screaming, but it's more than that.

Speaker 2 1:06:16

It's like a horror album in some respects it is, it really is. Because it hits a nerve and it's really.

Speaker 4 1:06:24

The cover is just kind of lures you in. It's got the blues and it's just like a baby. How hard and deep can that be? It's just like.

Speaker 2 1:06:36

I'll tell you about the album cover. The album they lure you in. Yeah, Just taking advantage of innocent people, exactly. I mean that's the way I take it. People get it. I mean it's really controversial now. It was never. It's weird. This album was never. The album cover was never controversial, until the baby grows up as a adult and can speak for himself. It's kind of weirded out by the fact that.

Speaker 4 1:07:03

Yes, he tries to sue and doesn't win.

Speaker 2 1:07:06

Right, yeah, but you kind of feel for the guy because he didn't have a choice, I know right. This isn't his consent. At the same time, that's crazy. Am I guilty of exploiting or just appreciating the intention or the meaning behind this or whatever?

Speaker 4 1:07:23

I mean, yeah, his whole life is basically this album cover.

Speaker 2 1:07:27

Yeah Well, I mean that's disrespecting his whole life, but I mean that's.

Speaker 4 1:07:32

Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 1:07:35

Maybe he didn't grow up to be a famous person.

Speaker 4 1:07:38

We should have got him on the show. Yeah, should have got him on the show.

Speaker 2 1:07:42

Yeah, well, maybe we'll invite him on. Maybe he can, when we do, in you To Row like the next album, maybe there are some opinions on that.

Speaker 4 1:07:49

Yeah.

Speaker 2 1:07:49

Just independent of what's the lawsuit's over with.

Speaker 4 1:07:53

In you To Row. Invite him on. It's actually just the album cover is just a picture of him in you To Row. Yeah, Exactly. Deep boyhood.

Speaker 2 1:08:04

Yeah, Anyway, look, yeah, good talk man Any last words.

Speaker 4 1:08:12

Oh, just find your inner beauty here.

Speaker 11 1:08:14

Look at this. Enhance your outer beauty with your inner beauty.

Speaker 4 1:08:18

Don't worry about that outer beauty. All you need is that inner beauty.

Speaker 2 1:08:22

And you know one thing I learned about Tim at the end of this. I'm not afraid anymore.

Speaker 4 1:08:28

Yeah he's not Right. You're not afraid anymore. I'm not afraid.

Speaker 2 1:08:31

Good, all right, well, good talk again. Sweet dreams everybody. Yeah, we'll talk to you in the next episode. Take care, Bye.