The Greatest Non Hits
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The Greatest Non Hits
10,000 Maniacs: In My Tribe
But that's not all. We'll also dive into the contrasting dynamics of Merchant's music, the upbeat rhythm masking somber themes in 'What's The Matter Here?' You'll be surprised to see the parallels between her sound and that of modern indie artists like Mac DeMarco, Courtney Barnett, and Kurt Vile. As we explore the deeper meaning behind 'Jack Kerouac' and the profound influence of Merchant's family, we promise a compelling conversation that goes beyond the surface of their songs.
In our final act, we'll take a detour from reality and contemplate how a duet between Tom Petty and Natalie Merchant might sound along with more analysis of 'Gun Shy' with its intriguing mix of pop and folk elements. Then, as we journey into Natalie Merchant's 'City of Angels', we'll uncover the stories and inspirations behind its lyrics. And to top it all off, we'll share tips on how to create a peaceful atmosphere, involving the trinity of a bubble bath, a Bob Ross video and our show. So come join us and let's celebrate the timeless music of 10,000 Maniacs and Natalie Merchant together!
And all the people dreaming in the immensity of it In an hour. I know by now that children must be crying in the land where they let the children cry. And tonight the stars will be out. And don't you know that God is poo bear. The evening star must be drooping and shedding her sparkler dims on the prairie, which is just before the coming of complete night that blesses the earth, darkens all the rivers, cups the peaks and folds the final shore in Nobody. Nobody knows what's going to happen to anybody besides the full on rags of growing old. Think of Dean Moriarty. I even think of old Dean Moriarty, the father we never found. Think of Dean Moriarty. I think of Dean Moriarty.
Speaker 3:All right, thank you for listening to the Greatest None Hits. I'm Chris and playing Don't Talk from the 10,000 Maniacs 3rd album, titled In my Tribe, is my co-host, tim, who's been digging deeper and deeper with his guitar playing. Shout out to Tim. And that little clip in the beginning was Jack Kerowack, an interview on the Steve Allen show from 1959. And it's sort of an ode to the second song on this album, which is Jack Kerowack. So we'll dig into that deeper and deeper later on in the episode. Well, we've got a great show today. Before we start, we want to remind you to follow or subscribe wherever you get your podcasts and if you're not on a run or you're just chilling, maybe on the way to work or road trip, get comfy.
Speaker 3:The 10,000 Maniacs are an alternative rock band that emerged in the 1980s and the important things to know about them in terms of their formation in their early years. They were formed in Jamestown, new York, in 1981. The original lineup consisted of Natalie Merchant on vocals, robert Buck on guitar, dennis Drew on keyboards, steve Gustafson on bass and Jerry Augustiniak on drums. Natalie Merchant was the lead vocalist and primary songwriter for the band and on this particular album in my tribe, her distinctive voice and introspective lyrics became a defining characteristic of the band's sound. As far as their musical style, the band's music can be described as alternative rock with elements of folk pop and even jangle pop. That's a thing. They incorporated acoustic instruments such as the mandolin and accordion into their songs, creating a unique sound for themselves.
Speaker 3:They did receive a lot of commercial success. This album that we're going to listen to was really the springboard for that success, and it happened in the late 1980s and early 90s. The breakthrough album in my tribe was recorded in 1987 and it went platinum and produced hit singles like what's the Matter here and Like the Weather. I'm sure most of you have heard those two songs. What we think we're going to do is treat those two as the hits and then the remaining songs will be considered non-hits. I do remember hearing this song, don't Talk, and it is familiar to me, but it's not quite as front and center as a lot of the other songs. For the sake of being generous with the different options that we can vote on tonight, we'll call it a non-hit.
Speaker 3:We're going to listen to all the songs, though, and then at the end Tim and I are going to rank our top three that were the non-hits. So Don't Talk is up for consideration. But getting back to the band, socially conscious lyrics like two or three of the last episodes that we've done, I mean I'm going to use a negative term for this particular album, but I mean I don't mean to pick on them, but a little preachy, but I do like. The music and the lyrics are good, don't get me wrong. They're fantastic and Natalie Bergent's an incredible talent and I thoroughly enjoyed listening to this album after having it on my shelf for decades, literally, it was nice to listen to it a few times this week. Again, great respect for the album. But they did tackle social and political issues, class issues, poverty, environmentalism, human rights. They were known for very introspective songs.
Speaker 3:Natalie Merchant departed from the band in 1993, and she did that to pursue her solo career. The remaining members continued as a group, recruiting Mary Ramsey as the new lead vocalist, I think. Prior to that she was a viola player and did some backup vocals Within the organization, so to speak. They tabbed her to be a replacement, but despite Merchant's departure, the 10,000 Maniacs continued to release albums and tour. They had moderate success with songs like More Than this and Because the Night, which was a cover of a song by Patty Smith. Nevertheless, if you look through time regarding their legacy, in 2001, natalie Merchant briefly reunited with the band for a series of concerts. Their legacy really lies in the influential role and the alternative rock scene of the 80s and their ability to create not just socially conscious music but with a unique sound. We've listened to Midnight Oil, we've listened to U2, and they have unique sounds too. They sort of approach their activism slightly differently than these guys did, but it's without the edge. I would say no pun intended, but regardless, we've got a great show for you in store.
Speaker 3:What can I tell you about In my Tribe? The album itself number 37 on the Billboard 200 chart, certified platinum in the US. Like the weather reached number 68 on the Billboard 100 chart. What's the matter here became a college radio hit. Some of those more socially conscious themes that we talked about a minute ago. Lyrics on In my Tribe often address, like, for example, what's the matter here? Tackles child abuse. Gunshy explores the topic of war and its impact on individuals.
Speaker 3:Natalie Merchant's songwriting lead vocalist, primary songwriter too. Most of the songs on this album were mostly written by her. Rob Buck was a big contributor for them. Like I told you earlier, this is their third album and prior to that one of the founding members was John Lombardo. When he left the band and not to say he's back with the band, mind you, I think we discussed it he came back in 2015. But he left the band right before they recorded this album.
Speaker 3:You wonder if just a less is more kind of a thing happens where you remove an element of a band and then it sort of opens up. You know different creative strains within the music and the group, but this album received tons of critical acclaim, positive reviews and critics. They cited them to be intelligent lyrics, catchy melodies, emotive vocals, considered a significant step forward for the band, and In my Tribe remains one of their most successful, actually the most successful and influential album. It helps solidify their place in Alternative Rock of the 1980s. I think they're all from Jamestown, new York. By the way, I think they met at Jamestown Community College.
Speaker 3:Jamestown is kind of a small industrial city. I want to say South of Lake Erie, just west of Erie, pennsylvania. So they probably have a lot of cloudy days, and you can tell from the lyrics. You know where they came from and what their life experience was up to that point. I mean, they were pretty young. She joined the band, I think, when they were 18. And you know now that I think about it when I think about their musicianship but also what their experiences were up to that point. They you sort of feel it when you listen to the album closely and kind of takes you back to Jamestown via 1987. So, anyway, that's really what I've got to say about that. That was beautiful, alright, so Tim's going to join us in a second. Before we do that, again, thank you for listening. Continue to listen, continue to support us. Cake is up on PayPal, whatever you want to do. That being said, here's my co-host Buddy from across the street Tim, how you doing, pal?
Speaker 5:Good, you know, any cake would be just really just so Thank, you yes we've got an easy listening alert here. This is a hard easy listen and it is an in-betweener. You know you don't have to be up or down for this, you can be just right in the middle.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you can be equanimous. Is that what you're, yes, and omnipotent at?
Speaker 5:the same time. Okay, yeah, that sounds right.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Self-actualizing. Yeah, you can contemplate maybe the seven wonders of the world and you'll get no explanation, nor is one needed. Nor is one needed because it's all carnival. There you go, and sometimes it's mesmerizing. And did we mention that Natalie Merchant has the voice of an angel? It's like butter. It's like butter, it's like an indie vibe, almost blending something so pure with the voice of the actual living angel in Natalie Merchant, the girl next door with her musical family at the time, and she has a very I don't know like hipster musical family that she's from.
Speaker 5:They all just have Italian Merchant or something, yeah, merchant, yeah, yes. So you know, for a little bit of influence with like other. I hear a little Paul Simon with some of the bongos, If you're into modern indie my sister Rose, yeah. If you're into modern indie, maybe a little Mac DeMarco, a little Courtney Barnett or like Kurt Vile, maybe Just throwing some artist names, that kind of you know vibe with this stuff. I think even on Cherry Tree I hear a little Tom Petty-ish. Really oh wow no it's.
Speaker 5:Let me know when we get to that. I'm interested. I don't know. It's got that sort of rote, like a lot of Tom Petty songs about the road. Maybe this is a good road album. Mm-hmm, yeah, I'll be preached to. Maybe I need to hear it, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah Well, let's hear it. Are you ready? Are we ready to go? Yeah, let's do it. All right, we all know this one. This is what's the Matter here. All right?
Speaker 5:What's the matter? Nothing's the matter.
Speaker 3:This is kind of like a luke, kind of a vibe. It's kind of sad, but it feels uplifting. Right, it's about child abuse. I'm tired of excuses. I never see her. What are screams and cussing? I hear them every day.
Speaker 4:Yikes.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it's kind of juxtapositional with the.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's their shtick. They do it very well.
Speaker 5:It's tongue in cheek, almost Well, no, not even that.
Speaker 3:Slap you silly. I mean that kind of sounds like Frank Rizzo from Frank Rizzo. You wonder if the jerky boys were in any way. Well, so that's a juxtaposition. They have to know this album. Well. Frank Rizzo is on later on.
Speaker 2:Open your fucking ears, jacket.
Speaker 5:You'll hear it yeah.
Speaker 3:Pardon us, we do have to have some yucks. It's been a yeah and thanks for being in there. We did take a week off last week. Thank you for coming back and listening.
Speaker 5:So kind and generous yeah.
Speaker 3:But what we do have to get? No, I'm sorry I'm talking too much.
Speaker 5:What do we got?
Speaker 3:No, I was going to say we have to have our yucks, even on a song about child abuse. No, no, laughing mat.
Speaker 5:No, it's messed up. Yeah, no laughing mat, because then that'll ripple down to that kid growing up and abusing. Yeah, it's not a good, it's a vicious cycle. It's a cycle. Yeah, it's your kid. Yeah, there's.
Speaker 3:Do as you see fit, but get this through that. I don't approve of what you did, wow. Okay so she's Everybody uses. He's your kid, do as you see fit.
Speaker 5:This song Is this a hit, this is a hit.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, okay yeah, what's the matter?
Speaker 5:here. It's a big one. I'm not. Yeah, I'm coming in pretty cold on this album. It's all right, I don't. I know Natalie Merchant, but I never. Yeah, it's all you served me.
Speaker 3:I love it. Yeah, this is my first exposure to I mean, I was a teenager this time.
Speaker 4:She's seeing her heart out Instead of loving the feel of love you've given him, these cups and so's that don't heal with time or with age.
Speaker 3:Oh, that is heartbreak, yeah, and I want to say.
Speaker 4:I want to say what's the matter here?
Speaker 5:But I don't dance with you. Broken windows, stuff with rags, large vicious dog on a short leash, a circular circumference in the yard over years of running in circles, a battered upholstered couch on the porch this is the house she's talking about.
Speaker 3:Yeah, With her.
Speaker 5:VH1.
Speaker 3:Down the road.
Speaker 5:Yeah, they like didn't talk about it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't think I could come up with lyrics like that, and I'm supposedly an older and wiser man versus somebody who's writing lyrics at she's Early 20s and even if she hasn't had half of life experience that I've had, she's just tapping into the ones that she has had. Right, all of them. Yeah, I mean, that's so that is deep, it's commendable. Very good, all right.
Speaker 5:Hey.
Speaker 3:Jack Harawak, we ready.
Speaker 5:This is a non-hit, right? Hey Jack, let's get on the road here. Fasten your seatbelts. You know queue up the greatest non-hits. Download it on your iPhone. Make sure you got gas in your car.
Speaker 2:But you're.
Speaker 4:Hey Jack. Now for the tricky part. There's the tricky part.
Speaker 5:When you were the flight of star, you were the show.
Speaker 3:I didn't dig into this song very much, so I'm a little bit. There's a backstory of this. I don't know it. My bad, she's.
Speaker 5:She's talking about Jack Harawak. What his mom too? What's her deal? She's fascinated by him. She's probably read all his books, yeah. So I still don't understand what?
Speaker 3:the relationship between how is she speaking for his mom and what's going on in her mom's head? That's what I don't understand.
Speaker 4:Well, there's some.
Speaker 5:Chinatown thing there's some Chinatown thing going on. Yeah, I don't know about it. It's just a great track, it's a good. It's a good bop. Yeah, I kind of like that open-ended guitar solo, sort of. Do you think she's talking about Steve Allen?
Speaker 3:Allen Baby, why is it you? Maybe, maybe, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, it's a good bop.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I kind of like that open-ended guitar solo sort of Do you think she's talking about Steve Allen? Allen, baby, why is it you? Or maybe, maybe, it doesn't matter, just like Mary down in Mexico on a solar stick.
Speaker 5:Just like Mexico.
Speaker 4:And that was Solstice. Baby's got a lost in the woods. Cool junk booting madman.
Speaker 5:I'm a cool junk booting madman.
Speaker 3:I like the music.
Speaker 2:Open your fucking ears, jackass.
Speaker 5:Any excuse to be frank with yourself.
Speaker 4:Take it in Our apologies.
Speaker 2:We're in a deep moment I ruined it.
Speaker 5:You broke your back in reality. Oh man, that was a note right there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, goodbye.
Speaker 3:Goodbye.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 3:Here's the second hit. Like the weather, I think the rain will hurt the rhubarb. I think it needs rain. Rhubarb is very strong, isn't it? It's a sturdy.
Speaker 5:It can take the rain. Exactly, it's a rhetorical or topic-changing question. She's a sleepy girl, is it a rain a lot in Jamestown?
Speaker 3:Yeah, they get the lake effect.
Speaker 5:Oh, the lake effect.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's when the precipitation comes up above Lake Erie, dumps it all on Erie, pa and Jamestown. And all that Specific to Lake Erie? No, it's in Michigan, where I grew up, they had a ton of that. It was constant snow, constant rain, the lake effect. Yeah, all around the coast of the Great Lakes they get the lake effect. They just get tons of precipitation dumped on them, versus 30 miles down the road.
Speaker 5:What I'm learning right here. Yeah, good day to write a song.
Speaker 4:Get that sun.
Speaker 5:Taking the bongos and drums here. Alright, take that shit in. Oh, call to action. That is. It's a little Paul Simoni, maybe.
Speaker 3:Yeah, what are you talking about?
Speaker 5:It's like Donna Somersie also.
Speaker 3:The four on the floor Just going, I like rainy days.
Speaker 5:You know, I'm constantly dancing to keep the rain going for the farmers. Oh, you think we're done. No, we're done.
Speaker 4:No, there's more.
Speaker 3:She's got more and worse.
Speaker 4:It's got a little real estate vibe.
Speaker 5:Another indie band yeah, I'm going to go with the song the estate vibe, another indie band. Cancel culture on that band, yeah.
Speaker 4:They play really well here. Yeah, they really do. They get these notes off their chest. Okay, sizzle check. Yeah, this is kind of like Yacht Rock and the.
Speaker 3:Lady. This is Yacht Rock and the Lady it is. It's got that organ in the background. It's kind of like a hockey thing. If it were just the organ, I can see that being played while the Zamboni is going around the hockey rink. I can see them composing this and starting with the D-string.
Speaker 5:And then the guitar, and then Natalie. Get up here, we're going to play our song for you and she's like it's a cold and rainy day and they're like beautiful, she's like I got some extra lyrics here, let me just.
Speaker 3:I just wrote a poem this morning, while growing corn.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it's about 400 pages. So no, okay, you're right.
Speaker 3:So we're going cherry tree.
Speaker 5:We're going cherry tree lane.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 5:Little Mary problems for you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, right, yeah, that Mary poppins yeah.
Speaker 5:I didn't set that up.
Speaker 3:Good enough today.
Speaker 5:I should Robin buck in that. Yeah, that's a soul Good guy yeah.
Speaker 3:If my some liver disorder ever.
Speaker 5:Oh, we wondering how to get it in.
Speaker 4:To me a mystery.
Speaker 5:This is the Tom Petty song. I sort of had that.
Speaker 3:She just did like an Adam and Eve it would be wonderful.
Speaker 5:Just imagine Tom Petty singing it cannot find To say my life Came to say.
Speaker 3:It would have. That would have been a nice. Do that, tom Petty and Natalie Merchant oh my gosh, that might. That would be hard. I don't think they would have a tough time. Great singers, kind of different styles, yeah, different a whole different.
Speaker 5:Tom Petty's about holding a note sort of a little longer. Yeah, he's a little breed it.
Speaker 3:Natalie Merchant's about a Whole novel first song yeah, he's like less words, she's more words.
Speaker 5:Oh, I like this part.
Speaker 4:Okay, that is some cool organ playing or whatever effect they had on. That was good.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's sounding says this very. It gets very, very acoustic.
Speaker 5:You can hear the mandolin it gets really acoustic, just fat, fat acoustic string poppers slapping down in an alternative easy listening style that he's unheard of.
Speaker 3:It was in short supply for that time.
Speaker 5:Here it was. They were an outlier. Yeah, no electronic drums for them. Alright, we've got painted desert here. What do you think of this song?
Speaker 3:Uh, I liked it. Robyn didn't like it as much.
Speaker 5:My notes just say okay, song, I don't. It's got that fleeting sort of vibe to it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I feel like it could be a better song. There's parts of it I really like.
Speaker 5:Well, very, robert Frosty, maybe it's kind of much of a cactus guy. You know Cactuses are hard. Everybody says cactus is easy for planting. People, Not a cactus guy.
Speaker 3:I thought they were easy. They're not too tough.
Speaker 5:Well, they need a certain amount of sunlight. You can't overwater. Oh, I didn't know that. But you also need to water. I don't know you forget about them when they die, or you water them too much and they die, oh, maybe.
Speaker 3:What do you think of the painted desert? Did you get that at all?
Speaker 5:Maybe some Salvador dali here? Where's the clock melting on the treeland?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't know. They may have been going for that. I mean, they channeled Jack Kerouac. Why wouldn't they?
Speaker 5:It's very Jack Kerouac-y here it's wacky.
Speaker 3:Emphasize the wacky.
Speaker 5:Wacky.
Speaker 3:More wack than Jack, more wack than Kerouac.
Speaker 5:You think it's done, it's not done.
Speaker 3:More words, just keep saying things.
Speaker 4:Shut your trap.
Speaker 3:What was she doing in a Flagstaff trailer court? I remember when I was in a Flagstaff trailer court, you were writing something.
Speaker 5:She always has a notebook around. I don't know.
Speaker 3:Tumbleweeds. It sounds tawdry, though. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 5:It changed my mind. Ooh, it needs her to song.
Speaker 3:I wonder if she had a boyfriend in Arizona. Okay, or.
Speaker 5:Tucson, maybe in Tucson.
Speaker 3:Yeah, her pining for him, and that was the cactus, was the metaphor for him, something like that I may be way off.
Speaker 5:She's done my research. Okay, we got. Don't Talk A little late for that.
Speaker 1:Shut your trumps and stop kicking the seats.
Speaker 3:All right, I'm sorry. You know, I was just going to say I should always be able to talk if I want to. Okay, I mean, it's my show and I think I should be able to talk.
Speaker 5:Oh, there you go, then keep your distance. Actually, you probably need to keep your distance. I didn't wear deodorant before this, so it's not that bad. Okay, what?
Speaker 3:are you wearing these days? I've got cold spice the food.
Speaker 5:Just lemon baking soda and a little lavender and some gelatin.
Speaker 3:How does that all come together?
Speaker 5:The gelatin and water. He makes those two first, yeah, and then you put some salt, and then Lemon, baking soda or baking powder, and then some arsenic, oh okay.
Speaker 2:No, just kidding.
Speaker 3:This isn't the greatest non-insurrectionist scene.
Speaker 5:This is you know let's keep it. Don't listen to me about deodorant recipes.
Speaker 3:I just asked you. It's not a conversation I ever had with anybody, so what kind of deodorant are you using these days?
Speaker 5:Yeah, you know, I just rub cilantro on my armpits.
Speaker 3:Well, that explains a lot.
Speaker 5:We'll keep it to a minimum. Oh, deep Fair game. I mean, she does have that kind of girl next door, hotness. Yeah, that's her gimmick. She's a baby. Yeah, still a babe. Yeah, talented babe.
Speaker 3:She's a baby, Henry.
Speaker 5:Her linguistic skills are like none other. Brother. Hey, you with the lips. Shout out to the Dreamers out there, write them down, make a song about it.
Speaker 4:Talk about it when your head is clear. I'm star-stepping the morning.
Speaker 3:This part not so acoustic, you know.
Speaker 5:Yeah, a little electric.
Speaker 3:Everything else is very acoustic, not the best guitar solo I've ever heard.
Speaker 5:But it's a safe guitar solo. Yeah, it's not going to make you jump out of your seat, but they don't have guitar solos on all of these songs or any solos sometimes. So it is a nice sort of let the band go kind of a little bit in the last 30 seconds, which I appreciate.
Speaker 3:It's poppy and it's folky. You know it is full pop.
Speaker 5:That was nice. Those two are juxtapositional, but yes.
Speaker 3:Now this one's called gun shy.
Speaker 2:You see, if you're not familiar with firearms, these babies can go off.
Speaker 5:Help. That's a little Don Knots for you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they really cut into the armed forces in this one. I think this is about like half you get out of the army.
Speaker 5:It's like Now Peace Train was emitted or Cat Stevens cover, due to controversy.
Speaker 4:You know that song Peace Train about Cat Stevens. Yeah, we can play it if you want.
Speaker 5:No, I mean.
Speaker 3:It's a pretty good version.
Speaker 5:Actually, you can turn the version and play it yourselves as listeners, but it's a great version Emitted from this album, probably original. Yeah, the original Maybe 7.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so yeah, things got cut, things got canceled. You know, everybody gets canceled, it's not just one group, everybody.
Speaker 5:You know, you know, it was like no.
Speaker 3:Even Cat Stevens gets canceled, that's true. I mean, the 10,000 maniacs canceled Cat Stevens. Wow, I mean that's the controversy, I guess, yeah, over the Salmon Rush, do you think Right?
Speaker 4:Oh, glory. Waving Stock and barrel safety trigger. Here's your gun.
Speaker 5:Good lyrics yeah.
Speaker 4:It really tells the story, yeah.
Speaker 3:This is about manhood. The gun doesn't make you a man. Preparing for war doesn't prepare you for being a man.
Speaker 5:It's about our little brother who joined the United States Army. Yeah, it felt so betrayed when my brother joined up, because he's my baby brother and I felt he was ignoring all my teaching. I sent him the album, including Gunshine on cassette, and told him to listen to every song without exception. He came to us in Germany a couple of weeks ago and told me that Army was no life for him. Wow.
Speaker 3:Oh, she's even given him the business.
Speaker 5:Yeah, she goes on and say but it's not just him. My stepbrother and sister were also employed by the US government to murder people. It's not a problem at holidays, we have some tent. No, it's a problem at holidays, we have some tense family meals.
Speaker 3:Can you imagine having her as a sister, jeez?
Speaker 2:That would be, I mean not horrible, I mean it would just be like wow, she's not going to drop it.
Speaker 5:She's relentless, she's not going to drop it.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 5:I mean I'm on her side, yeah, I mean she's oh, wow, okay, what are we on here?
Speaker 3:My sister Rose. Oh my gosh, it's like an Italian wedding here.
Speaker 4:You, tony Anthony, little T, to be my husband. I was born in Ramaha. My sister's wedding day. We'll have a ball at the sun's Ramaha. Family friends come one and all.
Speaker 5:I am a baby Set, little speedy Gonzalez. Now we're up in it up a notch here.
Speaker 3:Polka, polka, polka, ak, kiss Me Polka. How you doing that fruity Listen Frankie Rizzo and his combo play on.
Speaker 1:Frank Rizzo.
Speaker 5:Uncle Joe shout out, uncle Sam shout out.
Speaker 3:Shout out to Petticoat Junction. Fans out there, uncle Joe, uncle Sam.
Speaker 5:Shout out to America, shout out to Tango Dancers everywhere.
Speaker 3:Shout out to John Candy for his cameo in Home Alone. Shout out to.
Speaker 5:Rosey Drinkers.
Speaker 3:With his hit Polka, polka, polka and AK, kiss Me Polka. That was Kaloochi.
Speaker 4:Now they cut the fruity cake that Kaloochi. He can make a frosty towel, a sugar and flour For the couple of the hour, for the couple of the hour, for the time of everyone. Come on boo, come on boo, come on boo, come on boo.
Speaker 3:Come on, boo.
Speaker 2:That was pretty good.
Speaker 3:Shout out to Tim on the sound bank there.
Speaker 5:I'm a cartoon boy, that's right.
Speaker 3:I mean, I am too, and speaking of Zellis, so not having his best days here in the 2020 era?
Speaker 5:OK, all right, clear that out. Next one is a campfire, so shout out to all those campers Get those Marshall, get those s'mores.
Speaker 3:Shout out to the s'more eaters, you know if you're. If you're out, shout out to the campers if you're camping right now.
Speaker 5:Yeah, campfire get this going, All right.
Speaker 4:Deeper and deeper Way down.
Speaker 5:Oh, deep digging.
Speaker 4:OK.
Speaker 3:I was going to say that is.
Speaker 5:Gold Kidney. We were going to take some. What do you think? I got some rocks, the diamonds I wanna unload him story how you doing there Appl office. Broody, listen. I got these stones. I want to unload. I whacked them, fuck around last night. I want to get rid of these things.
Speaker 3:Yeah, here we go. Michael Steiff, didn't they date? They did, wow, I think like shortly after this album they dated. I think they've collaborated.
Speaker 5:Yeah, he said something about he was made more political and aware of conscious issues. He was definitely sort of yeah called action shit.
Speaker 3:How long did they date, I wonder? I didn't really dig into that.
Speaker 5:I think it was only shortly. That could be wrong.
Speaker 3:You wonder if he was like oh man, I just can't keep up with all this.
Speaker 5:Selv into the tabloids. Tense family dinner. Tense boyfriend, girlfriend dinner. What are your views on this?
Speaker 3:Can you imagine his Italian family?
Speaker 5:What is this guy? I whacked some fuck around last night. I want to get rid of these stones. I can't be playing with these things around. Can you imagine what this type is like.
Speaker 3:Well, mr Rizzo, I don't believe in violence.
Speaker 5:Listen there. Fruitcake, hey fruitcake, oh my gosh. Alright, we're back on the rails, we're going to heaven.
Speaker 3:Okay, here's City of Angels. Get in the door. I'm praying god damn it Buck, natalie merchants and Jesse James. Is this heaven?
Speaker 2:Heaven Is this heaven, heaven Is this heaven.
Speaker 4:Heaven, is this heaven where?
Speaker 2:we are, it's Iowa.
Speaker 3:Little field of dreams. Shout out to Iowa. Shout out to the land of corn. They don't get much lake effect there.
Speaker 5:No lake effect there.
Speaker 3:No, so they probably don't get much radio airplay it's all.
Speaker 5:No radio there. They have no radios?
Speaker 3:No, they do. They just don't get the radio air. There's probably a lot of radio there, actually A lot of AM radio. That's what I think. I just don't think that the 10,000 maniacs got a lot of. They probably didn't give as much airtime in Iowa that they did, maybe in the Midwest, where they've got, or the other part of the Midwest, the eastern part of the Midwest, where they've got the lakes, I think the sun comes out a lot there.
Speaker 5:Shout out to Cedar Rapids.
Speaker 3:Des Moines. Shout out to Des Moines. Shout out to Atomua. Shout out to Sioux City. Shout out to Mason City. Shout out to Ames.
Speaker 5:Can't forget Fort Dodge.
Speaker 3:Yeah, don't forget Fort Dodge.
Speaker 5:Shout out to Clive, shout out to John and Dee who live near Iowa, in Iowa In Ohio.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, if you're going to talk about Iowa it's the City of Angels.
Speaker 5:You know I'm praying. Damn it, god, take me to the City of Angels.
Speaker 3:Shout out to LA. Shout out to Wilshire Boulevard.
Speaker 5:Shout out to 56 and Wabashaw.
Speaker 3:Just get out of here, just take the 405. To the El Segundo interchange Get out of here, shout out to El Segundo. Shout out to Laguna Beach. Oh, that's down in Orange County. I'm from my bad.
Speaker 4:What is it bro?
Speaker 3:There's a very faint Chevy Chase in East St Louis. Shout out to East St Louis what it is, bro, what it is, bro. Shout out to the guy who spray paints honky lips on the side of his station wagon. What? Well, in the movie, you know the shit? Oh yeah, that's it. I'm gonna spray paint that family truckster. And they're right in the hood. And here they come with that family truckster with honky lips Spray painted. That's what they were spray painting while he was asking for directions the honky lips. All right, I'll shish. I'm gonna shish myself after that.
Speaker 4:No.
Speaker 5:Oh, natalie just took it up a notch vocally there. Oh, that was beautiful.
Speaker 3:And the music too. They're all.
Speaker 5:Fuckstock, you know Huh, we're on the last song here.
Speaker 3:And now this is Verdi Crys. The strings are nice there too.
Speaker 5:This is about Natalie's romantic holiday at the Balearic Islands, an island of Mallorca.
Speaker 3:And she was staying in 119. The man in 119 is her lover. He takes his tea alone. Why don't you get the heck out of here? I'm gonna drink my tea now she says I repeat very romantic. Yeah, it got weird.
Speaker 5:Lots of different Europeans, and Dutch French Walls were very thin. What? This is the weirdest interview.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she just doesn't want to be crude. Basically they're having a bunch of sex and everybody can hear them. But it's much more beautiful when it's like this Diver and Diver Listen, we're two bros listening to this song together. We can't just be like, oh, I'm not gonna sit here and hold hands and like, yeah, this is so beautiful Tim.
Speaker 5:God, this is so beautiful man. I hope Natalie really enjoyed herself on the romantic holiday.
Speaker 3:You look really good in this light right now.
Speaker 5:Your pits smell like arsenic and lemon. It's beautiful. Let's go to Spain together.
Speaker 4:I miss you.
Speaker 5:I miss your mask. The violin just Makes me weep.
Speaker 3:Let's get an apartment. To get it before the song ends. I'm getting a little bit cleft.
Speaker 5:Addie says has Miss Merchant ever commented on whether the gentleman left the pastries because he didn't want them or knew she would take them?
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 3:Is she talking about Michael's type?
Speaker 2:Is he the man in my mind? Oh?
Speaker 3:my gosh, he won't take the pastries. Take the pastries I know. Get out of here. Who is this guy? I wonder who it is.
Speaker 5:Did she have her? I don't know. Deep dive.
Speaker 3:I'll do the research on this one. Is it just some rando?
Speaker 5:Yeah, they're in a hostel, man.
Speaker 3:This is his side of the story.
Speaker 5:He's an older, obsessive older German gentleman.
Speaker 3:He's like, yeah, I just did Natalie Merchant.
Speaker 5:And I'm staying off Zeke Lothan.
Speaker 3:It was incredible Way down. All right, Natalie, that was very fun. I've got my T now so it's time for you to go.
Speaker 5:Do you have a beeper or something? Maybe a communication AOL internet.
Speaker 3:This is my pager number. Do you have a screen name?
Speaker 5:They don't know, you.
Speaker 2:That wasn't even happening. They didn't even have that. They didn't have pagers?
Speaker 3:I don't think. The technology is still not there yet, which is crazy to me.
Speaker 5:I'll write a note, I'll write you Anyway that was fun. I had a good time man.
Speaker 3:Let's go to number three. What is your number three?
Speaker 5:Verdi, Verdi cries. It was an L I R and you know right time and place. That's a great. Just ball your freaking eyes out song. That's my number three, Nice.
Speaker 3:I'm going to go number three, city of Angels, nice Take it to heaven, yeah, take it to heaven. And great ending to the song and it just went way back for me. So City of Angels, number three.
Speaker 5:Okay, when the hits again One, two and three, yeah what's the matter?
Speaker 3:No, it's one and three. One, three. Yeah, Jack Kerouac is not a hit.
Speaker 5:I don't think it's a hit that one didn't stand out for me. I like the topic and she's extrapolating.
Speaker 3:Jack Kerouac didn't really do it for me either. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 5:No, yeah, it didn't. I'm going gun shy. Number two that's a great song. Yeah, just keep it cool, don't be killing people. My number two was Verdi, last one.
Speaker 3:For the same reasons that you liked it. It's an outlier. It's just the. It's just the piano. That was a nice touch. To the end of the song it took the tempo down. Everything else was kind of like up beep. It's sad at the same time. Sad the whole way.
Speaker 5:If you're just going to go sad just go 100%, Seriously though the strings Milk it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly, the strings were beautiful.
Speaker 5:Write a song about pastries and hostels and just get sad.
Speaker 3:Yeah, now that I know that Michael Stipe could possibly be the guy that she's banging in, and that's the whole thing. So, all right, number one for you Don't talk.
Speaker 5:It has a good teen coming of age. Feel you know. It makes us question you know, are we talking to just fill the silence of the void? Are we just? Are we talking because we like the sound of our own voice or we don't like the sound of a voice there? You know, sometimes our voice sounds different when and then you're like Sorry.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Okay, well, I've lost my train of thought.
Speaker 3:Oh you, okay, I think that it was a little reasoned number one and I'm going to concur this song to me. I feel like I'm cheating because I've heard this song before and it feels like a hit to me, but it isn't, and I gravitate towards it myself and don't talk as my number one as well. It's just a better song, it's just a cut above every other one, even though this is a great album. This is an iconic album and this is what has kept their name out there. Yeah, it's for songs like this, and less is more, and she does do a lot of talk. I talk a lot, we talk.
Speaker 3:We talk, she does too, she's got a lot of, but this is sort of a less is more kind of a thing. It works very well. The music is beautiful too.
Speaker 5:Drop your tub bomb, you know, just soak. Maybe listen to this album, let the, let the picture be painted almost Bob Ross style in your head.
Speaker 3:I couldn't have said it better myself. Listen to this over Bob Ross oh Okay. Yeah, I mean just get soak in the tub with the bath bomb.
Speaker 5:Have a device nearby that isn't plugged into anything and be painting in the tub. Yeah, just put Bob Ross painting your, painting that, and then you're listening to this.
Speaker 3:Listen to this with the Bob Ross painting over it and all right, and then there you go.
Speaker 5:This is some happy, happy little trees for you all.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I wish you happy trees and yeah, and hope you, hope you enjoyed the episode and continue to listen and continue to download and, yeah, thanks for going on the deep dives with us.
Speaker 5:All right, all right, take care.
Speaker 3:Dig deeper, bye.
