The Greatest Non Hits

Ween: Chocolate and Cheese

April 23, 2024 Chris & Tim Season 3 Episode 16
Ween: Chocolate and Cheese
The Greatest Non Hits
More Info
The Greatest Non Hits
Ween: Chocolate and Cheese
Apr 23, 2024 Season 3 Episode 16
Chris & Tim

Text us, and Rock on!

Prepare for an offbeat exploration as Tim and I serve up a smorgasbord of insights on Ween's "Chocolate and Cheese." You'll be treated to the lore of high school archetypes turned rock icons and the uncanny ability of this duo to craft songs that are as obnoxious as they are enthralling. From the underboob album cover to the homage paid to guitar legends, we dissect the quirks and genius of this 1994 masterpiece. With anecdotes about the band's formation and their transition from trench coat outsiders to cult heroes, you're in for a sonic roller coaster ride of genre-hopping and heart-tugging narratives.

Ever wondered how a song about roses can jam its way into the heart of a Phish concert? We've got that covered, along with a candid discussion of emotional honesty in tracks like "Baby Bitch" and the surprising layers of social commentary tucked within the grooves of "Chocolate and Cheese." The album's cover tracks are more than mere tributes; they're a springboard into jam band lore, and we're here to share the rippling effects on music history. All the while, our banter about pony-based economies and Vermin Supreme's political satire will have you contemplating whether you've stumbled into a comedy club or a think tank.

As we wrap things up, our reflections on "Chocolate and Cheese" culminate in a whirlwind of cultural touchpoints, from silver screen classics to the less traveled "Joppa Road." We laugh, we cringe, and we embrace the unconventional—right down to bathroom breakfast burritos. It's not just an album review; it's an invitation to broaden your musical horizons while getting intimate with the idiosyncrasies that make Ween a band like no other. So, download, settle in with your favorite snack, and let this episode provide the perfect counterpoint to your day with music as its beating heart.

Support the Show.

Show Notes Transcript Chapter Markers

Text us, and Rock on!

Prepare for an offbeat exploration as Tim and I serve up a smorgasbord of insights on Ween's "Chocolate and Cheese." You'll be treated to the lore of high school archetypes turned rock icons and the uncanny ability of this duo to craft songs that are as obnoxious as they are enthralling. From the underboob album cover to the homage paid to guitar legends, we dissect the quirks and genius of this 1994 masterpiece. With anecdotes about the band's formation and their transition from trench coat outsiders to cult heroes, you're in for a sonic roller coaster ride of genre-hopping and heart-tugging narratives.

Ever wondered how a song about roses can jam its way into the heart of a Phish concert? We've got that covered, along with a candid discussion of emotional honesty in tracks like "Baby Bitch" and the surprising layers of social commentary tucked within the grooves of "Chocolate and Cheese." The album's cover tracks are more than mere tributes; they're a springboard into jam band lore, and we're here to share the rippling effects on music history. All the while, our banter about pony-based economies and Vermin Supreme's political satire will have you contemplating whether you've stumbled into a comedy club or a think tank.

As we wrap things up, our reflections on "Chocolate and Cheese" culminate in a whirlwind of cultural touchpoints, from silver screen classics to the less traveled "Joppa Road." We laugh, we cringe, and we embrace the unconventional—right down to bathroom breakfast burritos. It's not just an album review; it's an invitation to broaden your musical horizons while getting intimate with the idiosyncrasies that make Ween a band like no other. So, download, settle in with your favorite snack, and let this episode provide the perfect counterpoint to your day with music as its beating heart.

Support the Show.

Speaker 1:

I feel funny. Why is this happening to me? Is this going to be forever?

Speaker 2:

Can you do that with two fingers? You got two fingers. Oh, now I have two fingers, all right, so thank you for listening to the Greatest Not Hits. I'm Chris and playing Voodoo Lady is Tim, my co-host, and thank you so much for listening. We're going to listen to the album Chocolate and Cheese by the band Ween, and it's recorded in 1994 on Elektra Records. Shout out to St John's College, the founder of Elektra Records.

Speaker 2:

Found it in a dormitory with 500 bucks, some of that effect. But yeah, that was the band that signed Ween. It's their fourth uh studio album, I want to say, and like the first professionally recorded album at that. So, um, just a little bit of a background. Wean is a rock band from new hope, pennsylvania, uh, getting this via Wikipedia, of course. Two founding members, aaron Freeman and Mickey Melchiondo.

Speaker 1:

But they are better known by their respective stage names which are Gene and Dean.

Speaker 2:

Ween Not kidding.

Speaker 2:

Those are their stage names and we would categorize them the way Wikipedia would. They're an all-rock band first, I guess, but they weave in elements of funk, soul, country gospel, there's prog, there's some psychedelia, r&b, heavy metal, punk rock. I know they're big fans of Parliament Funkadelic, and I think the guitar player from that band, eddie Hazel, had passed away a couple of years before this was recorded. So there is a tier. One of the songs is a tier for Eddiedie. That's the fifth track on this album. There's 16 tracks all together. So, um, but a tier for eddie is like, I guess, a nod to him, um, shortly after his death. So, uh, they, they make a lot of um, yeah, they have a lot of. I would say eddie, not eddie hazel, but uh, jimmy hendrix shows up a little bit on this album in between, like voodoo lady, you know voodoo child. That's a little bit of a nod there there is uh, take me away sounds very jimmy and singing.

Speaker 2:

Singing and some of the the guitar playing isn't anywhere close to.

Speaker 1:

Jimmy Henders. Don't get me wrong, but just kind of a vibe.

Speaker 2:

But nevertheless it's a good album. I would say there are no hits on this, so, like all of our albums, we're going to listen to every song and at the end, give you our top three non-hits and just have a bunch of fun along the way.

Speaker 2:

We, as you can see, we've got some clips. That was david after dentist. Uh, you know, viral clip of a kid in 2009. I guess you know tim's a big fan of that. He just introduced it to me. So, anyway, um, anyway, getting back to Ween, new Hope, pennsylvania, that's interesting. I think it's on the New Jersey border, near Trenton, I guess. I think Tim said that he's done some bike riding in that area. Maybe we can ask him about that. I don't know what else can we discuss here. So Aaron is Gene and Mickey is Dean. Let me make sure I have that right. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, for the hell of it. Yeah, let's say that that's what it is. So, gene and Dean. Gene is Aaron, dean is Mickey. Okay, got that straight. Prior to this album, pure Guava was 1992.

Speaker 1:

I think they had some hits there. That was a good one.

Speaker 3:

They had a cassette album they came out with when they formed or for like the first one since their formation.

Speaker 1:

This is the same, so anyway, yeah, good stuff.

Speaker 2:

Uh, let's see some of the band members. There's also claude coleman who plays drums on this. Dean plays guitar, vocals, drums. I think gene is the main vocals. Claude Coleman who plays drums on this. Dean plays guitar, vocals, drums. I think Gene is the main vocals. Claude Coleman plays drums.

Speaker 2:

Additional personnel there's a guy named Mean Ween on bass. I guess that's another, just like a pseudonym. Greg Fry, engineer. Who else do we have here? Howie Weinberg, mastering. Andrew Weiss, producer? Uh, anybody else. Oh, steven Said S-A-I-D Plays Spanish guitar On Buenos Tardes, amigo, which is the 13th track. So A lot of music that we're gonna get into. So, uh, again you know the 13th track. So a lot of music that we're going to get into. So, again, you know, shout out to our listeners. Shout out to I don't know, I can't put my finger on it, ah, geez, yeah, speaking of which, here's a song called can't put my finger on it. So I mean, we're going to be putting our fingers on some things here, but that one you can't do it yeah, that giggity was from Tim's getting get a little just in here.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's gonna. Yeah, goddamn carpet this carpet. Jesus Christ crying out loud. How's it going, bud you doing? All right, get those heads.

Speaker 5:

We you know what we in here. We're doing it.

Speaker 2:

That's right.

Speaker 5:

We up in here, we doing it, and, uh, this album goes out to those that don't take themselves very seriously. Uh, or uh, those who take themselves very seriously, uh or uh, those who take themselves way too seriously and just need to chill out because, uh, just eat eat some chocolate, eat some cheese. Sit back.

Speaker 2:

These guys met in junior high school in typing class 1984.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, they ordered a pizza in class. Who ordered the double cheese and sausage? It's right here, dude, he was a jock, I was a trench coat guy. Is that what they said?

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 5:

That's wild. Yeah, no, shout out to the cassette listeners, okay.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they didn't like each other. Yes.

Speaker 5:

No.

Speaker 4:

He was a jock.

Speaker 2:

Mickey was the jock, aaron was the trench coat guy.

Speaker 5:

They later said that this was music designed to be obnoxious. These guys have a lot to say, but not in a way that's pretentious, I would say.

Speaker 2:

No, I would agree, it's not pretentious.

Speaker 5:

It's all tongue-in-cheek.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's tongue-in-cheek.

Speaker 5:

It's the opposite. Even the album cover with like Ween and their little symbol that they drew up as a wrestling belt on a like Playgirls, you know with her underboob hanging out, gotta be one of the best album covers of all time.

Speaker 2:

Oh, you're talking about this one. Yeah, there is. Yeah. So, guys, you know if you're out there. Yeah, there's, there's some under boob on the album cover which yeah. I mean that's a little sexist.

Speaker 4:

Well, you should have seen the cover they wanted to do. I don't care what they want, all right.

Speaker 2:

Sir Edward Eaton hog. No, no, it's not Sir Edward Eaton hog, that is uh. Ah, the manager Damn it. Uh, from this spinal tap, Anyway, you get the reference. Yeah, you get the reference, it's all good and anyway. So what do you?

Speaker 5:

got for us Anything else before we get into this album, you ready to listen to it? Honestly, yeah, my central focus for this album is to just whatever music tastes. You have throw them out the window. You're going to hit the hard reset button on this one. This is these guys are masters at eclecticness, if that's a word. Literal chameleons in every genre.

Speaker 1:

So well, yeah, they are all over the place, but it's tolerable, so yeah that's my feeling and then at times you're gonna be like right, or it's just gonna be so I feel funny, yeah, because it's weird it is.

Speaker 2:

it's just going to be sort of I feel funny.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, because it's weird.

Speaker 2:

It is. It's a weird thing.

Speaker 5:

It's a weird thing.

Speaker 2:

Let's go. Here's the Jimi Hendrix thing right here. This, right here. I mean not this, but when he starts singing, take me away.

Speaker 5:

I don't know, in that exact kind of gaffe there.

Speaker 4:

Take me away, son of the land, thank you, thank you. I gotta get away from that girl before I go crazy.

Speaker 5:

She took my love away. She took it to another man. Oh no, I love song. Oh no, love song, take me to another land. You'll know what's the overlay here, that is crazy. It's an honest song structure. Here they have a way with chords. The way that they they put their chords is really yeah.

Speaker 2:

They're kind of playing like a power trio here, yeah. Oh no, that's horrible I know this is like old school. It's the beginning of it, are you?

Speaker 5:

crying. This guy's crying. This girl took his love away.

Speaker 2:

He's out of town on a business trip and it's just sort of like all of a sudden your girlfriend's there for a gangbang or whatever. Some guy knocks on the door. I'm here for the gang thing.

Speaker 5:

Just saying let it out, give it some air man, air man, play with it. Gotta get away.

Speaker 1:

It's a long note right there what she took my love away.

Speaker 5:

The pen is blue I don't know anything anymore I know, I just oh call the fire department.

Speaker 4:

this was out of control. Know anything anymore? I know I was just. Oh, Call the fire department.

Speaker 5:

This was out of control. You know what this reminds me of? Actually Our first podcast.

Speaker 2:

Why is that? Oh dude, Do we dance?

Speaker 5:

No, oh, second, again no Cover of Rolling Stone. Yeah, dr, hook Dr.

Speaker 2:

Hook.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, because they're so outlandish.

Speaker 1:

The lyrics are insane.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, Thank you Jim and thank you Tim. So this one's spinal, we're in a second song.

Speaker 1:

This is spinal meningitis.

Speaker 5:

Man, this is like the dentist kid Smile on Mighty Jesus.

Speaker 2:

Seriously, I said it ain't no joke.

Speaker 5:

Is this real life? I'm gonna be a mommy. Please don't let me die. Don't let me die. Stinky nasty mommy. Life Stinky Vaseline. What are these lyrics?

Speaker 2:

It's like the kid and the adult are like layered. They're like the same. One of them is Dean or Jean.

Speaker 5:

Ween and one of them Adult, or like layered, we like the same the same. One of them is Dean or Jean Ween and one of them.

Speaker 2:

I wonder who's the kid actually? That's on the credits.

Speaker 5:

I don't see it. I have to say this is one of my favorites. You play this at a party and people are just going to be either worried about you or just kind of indie-gloving their ass off. It's tolerable.

Speaker 1:

This kick is hard, I still play. Why is this happening?

Speaker 5:

to me Dean is crushing it. No, he's a good guitarist.

Speaker 1:

He is a good guitarist.

Speaker 5:

It's just great that they went the other route. You know what I mean. They didn't really care about success, and thus they got a cult following. See, that's how it works, yeah.

Speaker 2:

The name ween was a word made up by the duo, a combination of the words wuss and penis. So I guess that's A ween.

Speaker 5:

Yes, oh yeah, it's tolerable.

Speaker 2:

Now I remember it. It's like even like the word weeness was like sort of like a combo interwoven between all of these. Well, I guess the point is don't take these guys seriously. They're not taking anything seriously here, that's for sure. That's okay. There's real credibility in them, especially in Gene's playing or Dean's guitar playing.

Speaker 5:

And Weiss's bass in producing he kind of.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's professionally done.

Speaker 1:

Liberty Bell cracked in half. A bacon steak, a perfect match. Freedom steak.

Speaker 2:

You know, what would be a good spot right now is a Pat.

Speaker 6:

All right, it's time to try out Pat's King of Steaks.

Speaker 5:

It's a Pat's and Gino's. That's the debate, right.

Speaker 6:

It is.

Speaker 5:

Gino's has.

Speaker 2:

Wiz, wiz, wiz.

Speaker 5:

Wiz, wiz. I said one with Wiz. I think I said one Wiz with Second we got Wiz, wit whiz whiz, whiz whiz, whiz we got whiz, oh my god whiz is ew. Don't eat that whiz. It's also that mannequin.

Speaker 1:

A clothing store downtown. They got a mannequin in there that looks exactly like a lady Get out. Mannequin was filmed at Woolworths Boyz II Men.

Speaker 5:

Shout out to Boyz II Men.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and shout out to Andrew McCarthy and Kim Cattrall For Mannequin and Boyz II Men. Yeah, and shout out to Andrew McCarthy and Kim Cattrall From Mannequin, mannequin and Boyz II Men, kenny.

Speaker 6:

It's like they chopped off your arms and legs, dipped you in plastic, then screwed you all back together again and stuck you on a pedestal.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was when Elaine looked like the mannequin. Was it Woolworth or no? No, it was when Elaine looked like the mannequin. Was it Woolworth?

Speaker 5:

No, it was another.

Speaker 6:

It was like a fictitious store, I think, is what he said. It's really quite exquisite.

Speaker 5:

I do love cheesesteaks though.

Speaker 2:

Do you know the difference between Cheetahs and pads, or do you have a favorite?

Speaker 5:

or I've never been. But okay, shout out to pips. Downtown pips has a moroso philly roll and you can order a wit whiz. That's right, and they'll know what you mean.

Speaker 2:

Since, we're talking. If you know sponsors, you know we can A cocoa.

Speaker 5:

We need a cocoa in there. So what genre is this?

Speaker 2:

This is like I can't put my finger on it. That's the whole thing. Can't put your finger on the genre.

Speaker 5:

Why Neither can Nancy. She's just a New England girl trying to listen to music and this album hits her cassette tape and she's just like.

Speaker 1:

Why? And this album hits her rec cassette tape and she's just like I do, like this interlude a lot.

Speaker 2:

You know there's this part. They give you like a little bit of a break.

Speaker 5:

Right, they're just messing around. This is like Like what, if you go heavy distortion, you wuss penis and then we'll go. It's all acoustic, oh, and then more effects. Or is there more?

Speaker 2:

Maybe there is nothing more to be added to it.

Speaker 5:

Oh, okay, thank you. Thank you, osho, thank you Sad. Guru.

Speaker 1:

Touch the dwarf inside this part's funny.

Speaker 5:

Touch the dwarf inside, it's true, you don't see many dwarf women Shout out to Lord of the Rings. Shout out to Lord of the Rings, the dwarf woman.

Speaker 3:

I was surprised when I the dwarf woman.

Speaker 5:

There's like a sort of Indian culture riff now, it's like an Indian culture riff.

Speaker 2:

Now it's like a snake charming the Egyptian magician. All right.

Speaker 1:

Oh.

Speaker 2:

Okay, and this is a tear for Eddie, eddie Hazel. Yeah, guitar player for yeah Parliament Funkadelic Maggot Smith.

Speaker 5:

Maggot Brain Sorry.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, it's just Ten Minute. Yeah, his, that was like his opus Magnum.

Speaker 5:

Opusus more or less yeah something to that effect excellent guitarist really made the guitar scream, you know.

Speaker 2:

It's actually Maggot Brain was the third studio album from the band Funkadelic Right Before Parliament was involved.

Speaker 1:

Gotcha.

Speaker 2:

So this is yeah, it's from that iconic 10-minute guitar solo.

Speaker 5:

Recording July 71 71 in Detroit. This is beautiful. This is like, albeit with the sort of drum machine that's throwing me off. Everything else is good.

Speaker 2:

Oh really, you don't think it's Clarence or Claude Coleman? I think this is a drum machine for this one. Oh okay, yeah, it says patricia fry played drums on this as well, but I don't know what song it was.

Speaker 5:

I know they have a drum machine. This just sounds like a drum machine.

Speaker 2:

Yeah there's not really much, maybe making music though that's for sure.

Speaker 3:

Work it, work it, baby, work it Work it own it, work it, work it, work it. Yes, you can have this. Thank you myself. That's baby making music. That's what that is.

Speaker 2:

Oh, this also sounds like it's Blinded by the Light from.

Speaker 1:

Manfred Mayer.

Speaker 5:

Blinded by the light. It's kind of I mean it's Wrapped up like a douche.

Speaker 2:

There's another room around More like the style of the guitar playing, more so than the melody.

Speaker 5:

You let it hang kind of thing. Yeah, let's it hang.

Speaker 2:

Real, though I was kind of playing like David Gilmour too Well who's better, eddie Hazel or David Gilmour? They're both just different. Yeah, well, they all could have. Eddie Hazel and David Gilmour were coming to prominence at the same time. I think they maybe inadvertently their styles intersected. They were influenced by one another and they were both probably clearly influenced by Jimmy.

Speaker 5:

Edwards yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2:

It's all the same thing. Whoa. Yeah, that was a little too much Whoa. It's a really great performance. I know they intentionally did that too, just to make it extra sharp it was just too much. It was just too much effect they didn't need all that.

Speaker 5:

Left them for noticing.

Speaker 2:

But that's better. Take a piece of tinsel and put it on the tree.

Speaker 5:

This is a Christmas song. What's going on here?

Speaker 1:

Cut a slab of melon and pretend that you still love me. You didn't miss much. Honeydew is the money melon. Call that a pumpkin and rely on your destiny.

Speaker 5:

Shout out to Phish for covering this song like 500 times. Get in your car and cruise the land of the brave and free.

Speaker 1:

Don't forget to understand exactly what you put on the tree. What's the song called? This place is cool.

Speaker 5:

Don't forget the flowers. No, nigel, nigel Roses are free this place is cool.

Speaker 1:

This place is cool.

Speaker 5:

Take a wrinkled Raisin, aka Love Pump. So actually Dean and Gene Ween thanked Fish for playing this song live and Trey on stage said I wish Dean and Gene could play this song more live. And then they reunited and actually played a tour after the first time Trey and fish played it live. It spurred some sort of uh renaissance with with yeah it was an advertisement, you know it was an organic grassroots. You know level upper from trey and the boys well, trey gave them a plug, maybe they needed it Shout out to the Nassau Jam.

Speaker 5:

They do a 22 minute jam after Roses Are Free, which arguably is some of the best music out there Very repetitive but good.

Speaker 2:

A lot of reverbs. It's very 80s. I know this is probably the 90s yeah.

Speaker 5:

Screw you Melon.

Speaker 2:

Notwithstanding Mr Mellon's input.

Speaker 5:

Weird chromatic scale going on here. I like Fish's version way better. Is it this much distortion? It's too much synths. Flange they added too much man. Yeah, or is there? Roses Are Free might be a cover.

Speaker 2:

I may have turned into an old man. This is too much noise.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, you can skip it.

Speaker 2:

No, I mean, that's the thing. This is what's annoying about it. These aren't good songs. Somebody should just like melt these down, but then it would then be Yacht Rock.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 5:

Entirely written by Gene, Including the guitar solo. Oh really.

Speaker 2:

AKA Aaron.

Speaker 5:

He said it was reminiscent of Prince. Interesting Is guitar playing here, I guess. Yeah, I guess Prince does kind of play like that A lot of Phish fans are Ween fans too, so they both have that ad hoc kind of humor going on.

Speaker 1:

It's been a while since I've seen you smile.

Speaker 2:

All right, this is Baby.

Speaker 1:

Bitch, but now you've come back again.

Speaker 5:

Bitch, all right.

Speaker 1:

Came into the room and you saw my girl, this is going to be fun.

Speaker 2:

And you asked her how long it's been. This is going to be fun. The first thing I thought of was jerky voice. There's like at the end she's like okay, bye, baby bitch.

Speaker 1:

It's like in one of the crank calls.

Speaker 5:

This screams Elliot Smith from Matt Damon. Good Will Hunting.

Speaker 1:

Shout out to Stevie Bitch I don't care, I'm better now. Please let go. What else you gonna say while you're back on your state? Maybe something, maybe nothing? We'll see.

Speaker 6:

Her son just called me a bitch, you're beautiful.

Speaker 1:

I guess I wasn't for you and you weren't for me. You're bitchin' but you're not a bitch. You're bitching, but you're not a bitch.

Speaker 5:

Shout out to middle America families Having trouble With their medicated son. Baby, baby, baby, bitch, go conquer someone else.

Speaker 1:

Now you've had it done. People say how beautiful, how sweet, how kind, all right, pete bye Parker, you've got nothing to hide, but I, for one, have seen the sun. The price is wrong, bitch, and the bitch that you've locked up inside Got fat, got angry, started hating myself.

Speaker 5:

Start lifting some weights, don't be afraid anymore. Bitch, you got jacked, bitch Get jacked.

Speaker 1:

I'm skinny and sick and have no idea, oh Bitch.

Speaker 5:

I don't care, chris is on fire right now.

Speaker 2:

Bitch.

Speaker 1:

There's a lot of bad word going on. Oh, see you around, bitch.

Speaker 2:

And Tim with the assist.

Speaker 5:

We're just like Carl Malone and John Stockton up in here. That's right. Shout out to the Utah Jazz. Shout out to the mailman. None of those players use steroids.

Speaker 2:

I'm not Stockton, definitely not Stockton.

Speaker 5:

There was one that did Karl Malone's like bitch. Every time he dunks, he's like bitch.

Speaker 1:

Mister.

Speaker 5:

Oh gosh, we have a lot for this song, buckle up.

Speaker 2:

The name of the song is Mister, would you Please Find my Ponytail?

Speaker 1:

No thanks, I'm a horse, not a guinea pig.

Speaker 3:

I think, I'm getting the black lung pop Riding dogs.

Speaker 4:

What about ponies? Huh. What kind of abnormal animal is that?

Speaker 1:

And those kids who had their own ponies.

Speaker 3:

I know I hated those kids. In fact, I hate anyone that ever had a pony when they were growing up.

Speaker 2:

I had a pony. He is in trouble.

Speaker 5:

Oh, you're in trouble.

Speaker 2:

He's like oh, I didn't mean, he's like we all had ponies.

Speaker 5:

You know, if you were to vote for Vermin Supreme, you might get a pony.

Speaker 2:

Vermin Supreme. He's the dentist guy right there's a lot of dentistry going on in this episode.

Speaker 5:

He's the presidential candidate from New Hampshire.

Speaker 2:

That's right.

Speaker 5:

Who wants a free pony for all Americans?

Speaker 2:

Ride a pony for every.

Speaker 3:

American. Yes, I do, sir. Free ponies for all Americans, one of the overlooked issues in America today. My free pony platform is, of course, a jobs creation program. It will create lots and lots of jobs. Once we switch over to a pony-based economy. We'll also lower our dependence on foreign oil. We'll also be able to turn all that pony poop into methane gas and wonderful compost, so we'll be able to re-up our soil that is being depleted by agrochemicals, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And, of course, the important thing to realize is that it is a federal pony identification program where you will need your pony with you at all times. Thank you very much.

Speaker 2:

All right, he's got my vote.

Speaker 5:

Have your pony with you at all times. Okay, that's right yeah don't fuck about. And if your pony has a lung problem, get it fixed. Okay, go to the pony vet get it sorted, mate.

Speaker 2:

Wow, that was okay All right, okay, so this is Drifter in the Dark.

Speaker 4:

Like a drifter in the dark. Like a drifter in the dark Seeking out what isn't there, seeking out what isn't there.

Speaker 2:

All right, Drifter in the Dark.

Speaker 4:

Looking only for a spark from a girl who's all alone, from a girl who's all alone, from a girl who's all alone. Maybe she's a-drifting too. Maybe she's a-drifting too, like a shadow in the night. Like a shadow in the night Waiting just to meet with you and then, perhaps, in love you'll stay, perhaps in love you'll stay, perhaps in love you'll stay, or fall and go your separate ways. Fall and go your separate ways. Still searching for a spark, still searching for a spark Like a drifter in the dark. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do, da-da-da-da-do, do-do-do-do-do-do.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, do you mind no.

Speaker 4:

Do-do-do-do-do-do, da-da-da-da-do-do, do-do-do-do-do-do, do-do-do-do-do-do. Come on, do it, lay it out right here. Do it, do it, do it, do it. Think you want some Give it to me. Huh, come on, do it, lay it out right here. Do it, do it, do you ever walk alone. I'm scared. Can you do it too? Seeking out what isn't there. Seeking out what isn't there, looking only for a spark, like a drifter in the dark. Like a drifter in the dark. Like a drifter in the dark, like a drifter in the dawn.

Speaker 6:

Don't, don't take it out.

Speaker 2:

That was a nice one. Oh, we're at Voodoo.

Speaker 5:

Lady, we're at a banger now.

Speaker 2:

This is a banger.

Speaker 5:

It's kind of like Talking Heads-ish. It's very Talky talking heads-ish. It's very talky headsies, very talky headsies.

Speaker 2:

Is voodoo the same thing as black magic?

Speaker 5:

Uh yeah, I think so.

Speaker 2:

There's a difference, I think, I don't know. It's like one is the other, but the other is not. That one Right, okay, shout out to Mark Wahlberg.

Speaker 4:

Shout out to.

Speaker 2:

Chancey Riley, aka Boogie Nights. Shout out to Philip Seymour Hoffman.

Speaker 1:

I don't know what to say, I guess well, I guess the only thing I can say is I'll promise to keep rocking and rolling.

Speaker 5:

Great little guitar riff here Okay.

Speaker 6:

Oh Work it.

Speaker 3:

That's baby making music.

Speaker 2:

Is this Claude? Is there like a synth? What's going on here?

Speaker 5:

May I see it?

Speaker 2:

Really Please. Oh, that's that creepy old guy, right? Thank you.

Speaker 5:

Eddie Shaking that stick.

Speaker 2:

May.

Speaker 5:

I see it please, right over the Shaken stick part. Oh, here's the bridge. This is just a chromatic Fuck kerfuffle.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, this isn't our Effect either. This is them.

Speaker 6:

Call the fire department. This one's out of control.

Speaker 5:

Holy shitballs.

Speaker 6:

Holy shitballs.

Speaker 2:

The whole existence is so hilarious.

Speaker 5:

Laughter for no reason.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, bitch.

Speaker 2:

Anyway, do you mind your effects on Tom, why it's got to be more chaotic, doesn't it?

Speaker 5:

It's gotta be more chaotic, doesn't it? It's tolerable. I like the chorus and the chord structure is very catchy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that is, you do, you do All right, all right, all right.

Speaker 2:

So that was voodoo. I have a, so that was Voodoo. Not Voodoo Child, but Voodoo Lady. This one is Joppa Road, joppa.

Speaker 5:

Shout out to Pasadena, shout out to the old movie theater on Chopper Road when I saw Liar Liar for the first time.

Speaker 1:

Oh was it.

Speaker 5:

It was good. Oh, that's years and years later. Right, they would release old movies and it was kind of cool.

Speaker 1:

What do?

Speaker 5:

they have at Java Road in New Hope. Yeah, new Hope is literally like there's one little main street and that's it.

Speaker 2:

Such a such a small town, I have to have a movie theater there too.

Speaker 5:

Really hippy-dippy. I don't know, it's on the canal there.

Speaker 2:

Okay, across the Delaware. It's on the.

Speaker 5:

Delaware. It's the DNL. It's on the DNL Trail. I really wish I spent more time. I just kind of biked through it.

Speaker 2:

Got a little classical gas going on here, I'll do classical gas. Shout out to Lenny from the Simpsons. This sounds like a charming town. You hope yeah.

Speaker 4:

It is.

Speaker 1:

Sonoco.

Speaker 5:

Sonoco.

Speaker 2:

Heel and toe.

Speaker 1:

Heads, shoulders, knees and toes.

Speaker 4:

I take head, shoulders, knees and toes knees and toes.

Speaker 1:

Okay, you can have those In case I know where we can go called Jabba Road. It's a little ways where the sun shines down where we drive real slow On Jabba Road, on Jabba Road, jabba Road, that's what that is Baby making in the back of a car?

Speaker 6:

Work it, work it baby, work it, work it, own it.

Speaker 3:

Yes, you can handle this. First is here somewhere.

Speaker 5:

Richard.

Speaker 2:

Ah, that feels better. It's tolerable that one. Yeah, it was tolerable that one that was tolerable. This was tolerated.

Speaker 1:

This is candy oh, a piece of candy. Oh, a piece of candy.

Speaker 5:

And berry and berry. Shout out to the berries out there and the peaches.

Speaker 2:

Peachies. Rip Berry wife.

Speaker 1:

Peaches and her RIP Berry wife. Peach isn't hurt Candy.

Speaker 2:

Ooh piece of candy.

Speaker 5:

Ooh Rarit Glazing and cherry Need some glazing cherries.

Speaker 1:

Candy Candy.

Speaker 2:

He shed it Spicy and sticky Missed opportunity the last reference to the, the album title. I don't think it shows up at any other point, does it? No, it doesn't chocolate with cheese.

Speaker 5:

I come to see them in the dressing room being like, yeah, Um, we just wanted chocolate and cheese. There are grapes and salami on this tray. Woo pizza candy.

Speaker 1:

Custard and berries. Looks like somebody's been down here with the ugly stick. Say hi, looks like somebody's been down here with the ugly stick. Say that again.

Speaker 3:

Looks like somebody's been down here with the ugly stick.

Speaker 5:

Peaches and cream. Beck has a good song called Peaches and Cream. Who does Beck?

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, peaches, and.

Speaker 5:

Cream. That's right On his Midnight Vultures album. It's very good, peaches and Cream. Who does Beck? Oh yeah, peaches and Cream. That's right On his Midnight Vultures album. It's very good. It's a juicy little, oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

Little nugget. I feel funny. Why is this happening to me? Yeah, it is. This is a long testamentary. Is this real life duty Is?

Speaker 2:

this real life. He's adding stuff onto this already layered. The pen is blue, the pen is blue.

Speaker 1:

The pen is blue.

Speaker 5:

I'm waving him off, bring him down, bring them down, bring them down, bring them down. Chandler, yeah, just sit.

Speaker 2:

The next couple plays out Chandler.

Speaker 5:

Bring them down.

Speaker 1:

I feel funny, though, okay.

Speaker 2:

I feel funny the band is over, you can go ahead.

Speaker 5:

There's 20 more seconds for this Candy Bitch.

Speaker 2:

You alright, I'm just laughing. I'm just laughing. Woo beat the candy.

Speaker 5:

Candy. Shout out to the candies out there.

Speaker 2:

Wow, candies are in Amigo.

Speaker 4:

I'm Lucky Day. Hola, my Good friend, I'm Lucky Day. I'm the needle lad. Cinco de Mayo on Tuesday I'm Dusty Bottom so together we're and I hoped we'd see each other again.

Speaker 1:

The Three Amigos. You killed my brother.

Speaker 4:

My name, amigos, okay, you killed my brother.

Speaker 2:

My name is Montego.

Speaker 5:

My amigo Montoya, and you killed my brother.

Speaker 4:

You shot him.

Speaker 5:

And I will have my vengeance. This will be my revenge Prepare to die.

Speaker 4:

In the night I still hear Mama weeping. Oh, mama Still dresses In black.

Speaker 2:

Oh man, if we could only talk to Tony Montana's mom, right now, at every fiesta For you.

Speaker 4:

I wanted to greet.

Speaker 5:

Maybe, I'd sell you a chicken with poison interlaced with the meat.

Speaker 4:

You, you look Like my brother.

Speaker 6:

Two more years I get my cosmetology license.

Speaker 4:

Mama. Shout out to Tony, my fan sister, the best.

Speaker 2:

Gina.

Speaker 4:

He was Head honcho With the ladies. Mama always said he was blessed. The village all gathered around him, max, but is it still bodegas, you and the others? No things are different. The village, what are you?

Speaker 6:

doing now All gathered Banks Around him.

Speaker 1:

But is it?

Speaker 6:

still bodegas, you and the others. No things are different. I work with an anti-castro.

Speaker 3:

I'm an organizer.

Speaker 1:

I'm an organizer.

Speaker 4:

I get a lot of political contributions. It was you that had killed him. You're a hater and that I find you and the boss stands the gun sticking in somebody's face, the law.

Speaker 6:

You know what we hear about in the papers the people, his family looks like you.

Speaker 4:

Our image Believed me Preach Mrs.

Speaker 2:

Montana. I will say Mitch believed me.

Speaker 5:

Preach Mrs Montana, mama she wanted Mama say that happiness is from magic rays of sunshine.

Speaker 4:

I told her.

Speaker 2:

We're doing like a montage right now. We're going back and forth between Tony Montana's mom and Billy Madison oh, it's Waterboy Nice. I like it. Oh Red Hot Mama To death.

Speaker 6:

Mama says we haven't heard a word from you in five years, cinco años. Will you suddenly show up here and throw some money around and think you can get my respect?

Speaker 2:

That's $1,000, ma'am.

Speaker 6:

You think you can buy me with jewelry? You think you can come into my house with your hot shot clothes and your gay manners and make fun of us I'm rocky day, I'm dusty bottoms.

Speaker 1:

Together we're the three amigos. So together we're the Three Amigos.

Speaker 3:

Well, so long as we've got some time to kill, I think I'll have a beer.

Speaker 5:

We don't have no beer. No beer on Cinco de Mayo. What a disgrace.

Speaker 2:

I know.

Speaker 5:

Not even a Corona. I'm trying to kill somebody here. I just want a beer before I commit my joyous murder of revenge. Murder okay.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 5:

I just want a beer, I know.

Speaker 4:

Came into town Save the village man On this such a joyous day. I tell you it was me who killed him With joy in your heart. But the truth is that never Billy.

Speaker 5:

Bob.

Speaker 2:

Billy.

Speaker 5:

Bob, billy Bob T boy, I could be a ruthless killer, probably are days probably is.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, he's probably killed somebody I'm thinking hola or maybe indirectly my good friend Cinco de Mayo on Tuesday and I hoped we'd see each other again.

Speaker 5:

You better not mention that again. You better not.

Speaker 4:

Shout out to the goat. We'd see each other again.

Speaker 2:

You better not mention that again.

Speaker 5:

I hope they mention that again.

Speaker 4:

We'd see each other again.

Speaker 2:

What the Got all deep. It's tolerable, alright, I feel funny. Oh, it's tolerable, all right.

Speaker 1:

I feel funny.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you and me both Jeez. Okay, this song is the HIV song. It's basically AIDS and HIV back and forth. Two minutes and nine cents Nine seconds I don't know HIV. Take a picture man following the lyrics Just AIDS, aids, hiv. Those lyrics have actually been spoken. I haven't even heard it. Okay, there's just AIDS, aids, hiv. Those lyrics have actually been spoken. I haven't even heard them. Okay, there's the AIDS. Shout out to the Dallas Buyers Club. Say that to you. Take a seat. I don't want to mess with you. I don't want to mess with you. I don't want to mess with you. I don't want to mess with you. I don't want to mess with you. I don't want to mess with you.

Speaker 4:

I don't want to mess with you. I don't want to mess with you. I don't want to mess with you.

Speaker 5:

I don't want to mess with you. I don't Shout out to Matthew. Shout out to Matthew. H-i-v. Why was this song included? I have no idea, h-i-v. Why Should we?

Speaker 1:

cut the next 30 seconds out. Let's go. That's not on our top, it's just.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, all right gosh, all right, dodged a bullet there this one's called what Diener Was Talking.

Speaker 1:

About.

Speaker 5:

Diener, what are you talking about?

Speaker 2:

Did he write this song Like in the third person?

Speaker 5:

What? What are they talking about? I'm gonna slip you something. Oh God, what are you?

Speaker 1:

talking about? Oh god.

Speaker 3:

How much more black could this be? And the answer is none. Is that good?

Speaker 2:

This is something this is something it's really quite exquisite. This is a hard album to listen to. It is For 16 songs. It is Fucking non-stop.

Speaker 5:

The person the last listener with us. Thank you, we're still having a good time. I hope you are.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 5:

Don't get me wrong. I'm just saying I mean, this is taking my music parameters out infinitely.

Speaker 1:

No, this is you man. You love this don't you yeah.

Speaker 2:

I mean my music parameters are like here, you know, in this little narrow field, but then, after listening to this, they both widen on either side, up and down, side to side I mean. I get it. You don't want everything spoon fed to you, like Toto you know. Oh well, yeah, but I get that part of it.

Speaker 5:

This is on the outer bank. I mean, our listeners might be guinea pigs after this.

Speaker 4:

I'm a horse, not a guinea pig, alright.

Speaker 2:

This is Don't Shit when you Eat. So yeah, thanks for hanging in there Last.

Speaker 5:

It's the last one. Yeah, we got some do's.

Speaker 2:

Don't shit where you eat is the name of this one, I mean.

Speaker 1:

I guess the only thing I can say is I'll promise to keep rockin' and rollin'.

Speaker 3:

You got good stuff here, class A chip.

Speaker 1:

All that shit is fucking bullshit.

Speaker 5:

Veal. This is the life for me, but don't shit when you eat my flesh. He called the shit poop.

Speaker 4:

Give two shits about you or nobody else.

Speaker 5:

He gonna shit when he realizes it's shit.

Speaker 6:

Some good shit. Huh, it's a fucking cigarette.

Speaker 1:

That's some heavy shit, man.

Speaker 2:

Shout out to Cheech.

Speaker 1:

Do, do, do, do, do, do. Anyway, do you mind Do it, do it, do it. Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it. Do it, do it, do it Do it.

Speaker 5:

I often have my coffee in the bathroom.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that was nice. All right, all right yeah.

Speaker 2:

So that was a. You know, it was like a palate cleanser at the very end of the album After all the distortion and whatnot.

Speaker 5:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

All the other songs. I mean I liked it. You know, I just wish they reined it in, but you know you might feel differently. Well it's tolerable.

Speaker 5:

It's excellent. What are we talking about here? All right, it's excellent. What are we talking about here?

Speaker 2:

all right all right, so let's get our top three. I mean, you go number three and they're all open for voting right all?

Speaker 5:

open for voting. I'm gonna go. Chopper road is a banger. It's a lo-fi sort of joppa road three. It's got the baby making music. It's sort of uh, it's something, it's something there I hear you, I, I it.

Speaker 2:

yeah, joppa road was good. I'm going to, I'm going to say Buenos Tardes, amigo. It's going to be my number three. That's your joke pick.

Speaker 5:

Uh, no, no, no, these are all jokes. Yeah, this whole album is a joke. Let's be honest.

Speaker 2:

I, it was entertaining yeah.

Speaker 5:

I like the story of it. It's a comedy um yeah, that was my number three number two mister, would you please help my pony because, uh, I couldn't get it out of my head. Yeah, mr, would you please help me get this song out of my head about a pony. I think it's as long.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's just great, just great stuff yeah, well, I mean, I couldn't get baby bitch out of my head. That's my number two.

Speaker 5:

Oh, baby Bitch, yeah, baby baby bitch, baby baby bitch, yeah, yeah, I liked it. It's got that New England Good Will Hunting like.

Speaker 3:

Elliot Smith vibe.

Speaker 5:

Oh gosh, all right. Well, what's your number one? My number one, roses Are Free, is a fish song, so I'm going to go Take Me Away. Take Me Away, number one, take me away. Yeah they kick it off kind of in a really just great way. Shout out to Voodoo Lady. Voodoo Lady deserved to be up there, but yeah that seemed to be an obvious pick, though at the same time, it was too obvious as a pick that Dean and Gene Wein would be disappointed in me if I picked it.

Speaker 2:

It's a de facto hit.

Speaker 5:

It's a de facto hit.

Speaker 2:

But we'll make it. That's why we're avoiding it.

Speaker 3:

We are.

Speaker 2:

It's not on my, even though it deserves to be mentioned. Yeah, take me away, so that's your number one. Yes, okay, I went with a song that didn't have any lyrics. Oh, going, uh, a tear for eddie, you softy, I, uh, I enjoyed the uh, yeah, just like the acoustic vibe. It gave off and it was like, very like. David Gilmour and Manfred Mann, and I liked how it was its own unique thing, even though you could hear those influences, and I thought that was what was excellent.

Speaker 1:

Nice, so yeah.

Speaker 2:

I liked yours too. I'm glad we had a difference yeah we usually do. Different songs. Yeah, we intersect from time to time, but yeah, this was.

Speaker 5:

A lot of non-honorable mentions on this, songs that can just never be listened to again.

Speaker 2:

But great album. Yeah, you're talking about the HIV song.

Speaker 5:

HIV Candy. Candy is yeah oh. Drifter in the Dark is not that good.

Speaker 2:

The last two songs, do you like? I Can't Put my Finger Out.

Speaker 5:

I do like that song because of the interlude Mm-hmm, do, do, do, do, do, do, yeah, but yeah, don't shit where you eat.

Speaker 2:

I got to hear a little bit of that that was tolerable.

Speaker 5:

I'll occasionally have a breakfast burrito with a coffee in the bathroom. That's all.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, hey, man, you know just, we're on a don't ask, don't tell basis. So yeah, to each his own, though, and uh with that, uh another one for the books. Yeah, Another one in the books. Thanks again for listening. Uh, continue to download us and uh, you hope you enjoyed it.

Ween's Chocolate and Cheese Album
Deep Dive Into Ween's Eclectic Music
Roses Are Free Cover Analysis
Pony-Based Economy and Voodoo Music
Musical Album Review and Rankings
Album Review Discourse